can u see me? just checking,,
"Men aren't oppressed for being men"
Trans men are real men. Trans manhood is real manhood. Trans men are oppressed for being trans men.
You're just a transphobe who hasn't actually internalized trans manhood as real manhood.
You only view manhood as an oppressive force rather than a real, genuine identity someone can feel connected to. This is transphobic.
You don't value the full scope of trans men's experiences as we define them for ourselves. You want us to sit down, shut up and let others make the decisions for us. Something most of us have been told all of our lives but is somehow progressive now that we're men....huh. Our voices are lifted up by feminist language for the misogyny we experience before we transition and then we're thrown out on the curb when we transition. We're "on thin ice" while we're pressured to self flagellate and be ashamed of our identity and when we begin to talk about the complexities of our issues we have our experiences flattened and dismissed.
You can't say trans men are men and try to dissect the trans part from the man part. You are inclined to do this because you have anti-transmasculine biases. Our experiences are the experiences of men, marginalized men who are not valued by the system.
Thank you so much for the post about why you defend trans men. I literally JUST got another death threat, and seeing that immediately after kept me sane. Thank you so much
I am so sorry you're getting death threats, it blows my mind that people think that it's ok to treat y'all like this.
Please take care of yourself first and foremost, and don't be afraid to take a step back from discourse if you need to.
Would you consider the ridicule and degradation of people with micro penises a form of intersexism??? Cause ive been thinkin about it a lot and the opinion of an intersex person would be nice (and any other intersex people who see this if yall would like please!)
Yes, it's definitely a microaggression. (For those who don't know, a micropenis is enough to qualify someone as intersex given it is two standard deviations below average for their body size). I personally don't really care and make small dick jokes about myself with my friends all the time but I do believe it's just another form of body shaming that people find acceptable.
My general thoughts on small dick jokes are that yes it's intersexist but there's much worse forms of normalized intersexism to focus on. People are always gonna say mean stuff about other people's bodies, and in the grand scheme of things, making fun of guys in huge pickup trucks for presumably having a tiny penis doesn't hurt me any worse than those jokes about people with blue eyes being scary.
"trans men transition because they hate women and femininity" I've literally never seen a group of men who felt so guilty and ashamed of their masculinity and being male or who loved and supported women and femininity as much as trans men in my life but ok. just throw away their support it's whatever
oh and also, trans women/fems should NOT be coining terms to describe the oppression that primarily trans men/mascs face. that is so incredibly fucking scummy on so many levels.
imagine i go "hm. actually, 'transmisogyny' is Bad and I Don't Like It so im going to decide on the word you should be using for yourselves because yall arent capable of meaningfully coming up with a word to describe your own oppression. i think 'transobjectification' is a better word for you all to use so stop using transmisogyny to describe your experiences now, thanks : ) "
that would be BEYOND disrespectful, it would be so extremely transmisogynistic of me to do that, so why is your coining of "transemasculation" not seen as RIGHTFULLY and DISGUSTINGLY transandrophobic.
AND THATS NOT EVEN MENTIONING HOW TRANS MEN/MASCS HAVE COINED SEVERAL TERMS TO TRY AND DISCUSS OUR OPPRESSION LIKE 'ISOMISOGYNY', 'TRANSMISANDRY', 'TRANSMASCPHOBIA', 'ANTI-TRANSMASCULINITY'. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN MET WITH THE SAME FUCKING RESPONSE. AT SOME POINT YOURE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT AND SAY THAT YOU JUST DONT WANT US TO SPEAK ABOUT OUR OWN OPPRESSION AT ALL AND QUIT PLAYING THESE SHITTY SEMANTICS GAMES.
this goes for gendered insults as well! I don't care how mad you are, or how much you dislike someone, it's still misgendering.
if a trans woman/fem person tells you to stop calling her "dude" or "bro" because it makes her feel dysphoric, then stop using those words as "gender neutral" and respect her boundaries.
if a trans man/masc person tells you to stop calling him "girl" or "bitch" because it makes him feel dysphoric, then just stop using those words as "gender neutral" and respect his boundaries.
polyamory hate is so weird to me, because "having casual sex with multiple people at the same time" is considered like. a sign of being a cool person, until those people are like. fat or have blue hair and pronouns or whatever
"If men could get pregnant, abortions wouldn't be a problem!"
"If men could get periods, all period products would be free and accessible!"
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im sick of how trans men are treated in queer spaces, you think i would be treated normally but no they started shitting on men, and the moment i spoke up i got "this isnt about you youre one of the good ones"
im sorry? you only said that because you know im trans, if i didnt disclose that you would of treated me like im evil or horrible just because you dont like men.
Nix, They/Them, Queer, 20s Sporadically active.Do not gender me.
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