So much pointless LGBT+ discourse could be avoided if people just stopped assuming they knew everything about the oppression OTHER identities face.
For example, if you’re nonbinary, you can absolutely talk about the struggles you’ve dealt with as a nonbinary person, and speak of the issues your community is dealing with. But if you’re not transfem, it’s not your place to comment on how transfem issues compare to your own.
And if you’re a trans woman, you should absolutely not be talking about how trans men “have it easier” or what transitioning is like for them, because you fundamentally don’t know! You’re not a trans man!
And it goes both ways- trans men shouldn’t speak on trans women’s issues! Binary trans people shouldn’t claim to know what it’s like to be nonbinary!
It even hearkens back to older varieties of discourse, like ace discourse. You saw non-ace people talking about what THEY thought being ace was like, because they believed that being LGBT+ themselves made them the arbiters of oppression.
Or hell, gay men claiming that lesbians had it sooo easy compared to what they went through! Like, man, how the hell would you know, you're not a lesbian!
Just. Stop! Stop talking about the assumed experiences of other people! Being one flavor of queer doesn’t mean you’re the expert on ALL queer oppression! LISTEN to other people, stop talking over them!
I think if people accepted this, 90% of stupid online identity discourse would vanish overnight.
I'm so tired....
I had to block 2 people on my post who saw "stop generalized transmasc experiences and dismissing our struggles" and respond to that with "stop acting like there's a secret cabal silencing transmascs" and "you don't think trans men can live meaningful lives as men". I don't even like blocking people but it's impossible to discuss with these conspiracy brained weirdos.
Sorry I'm trying to boost the voices of trans men who are suffering because I consistently see them shot down and the world is dangerous right now? Sorry I AM a trans man who's suffering and in constant fear? Sorry my lived experience doesn't align with your strawman but I'm unabashedly a man and my struggles are real and I won't let you dissect my identity into pieces to try to fit your narrative that the more a trans man identifies as a man the less oppression he faces. It's literally not true at all.
I AM living my life happily as a man, it was the first time I ever felt complete in my life when I was actively suicidal as a woman and thought I wouldn't live past 22. What a weird way to dismiss someone talking about their oppression. "You're struggling and communicating it so something can be done about it so you must not be happy with your identity". I'm very happy with my identity, I actually had hope for the future before all this transmasc hate but it's been wearing on me because uncriticized hate against a group of people lessens our quality of life and makes it more dangerous for us to live freely. The government's insistence to detransition me makes me unhappy, the mainstream uncriticized hatred of masculinity makes me unhappy, the insistence that other people know our struggles better than we do makes me unhappy.
I'm very happy being a trans man and I love the trans men in my life and I want them all to be happy, but I'm seeing us all struggle, so I'm speaking out about it.
"a tiny fraction of transmascs are able to exploit the patriarchal system and in certain situations by going stealth they may benefit from material privileges" has become "all transmascs have male privilege and they do not experience misogyny and also they all hate trans women and they want to abuse us"
i think some of yall need to learn the warning signs of becoming a reactionary because this is some alarming shit
I know people have come up with other words for transandrophobia, but i’m digging in my heels on that term. Yall won’t ever be happy with whatever other word we try to use, because the point is you want us to shut up and not talk about our oppression. I’m not going to waste my time hopping from term to term in an attempt to please yall and get you to take me seriously.
trans guys: hey! this awful violating thing can and has happened to us and we need to be more aware of it as things get worse for trans ppl everywhere
the stupidest people alive: but have you considered it makes me personally feel bad when you talk about it? and actually youre a bigot for even bringing it up in the first place because what about the people that cant have that happen to them but have other similar things happen? honestly i think you just hate trans women and cant stand when things arent about you
don’t kill yourself because the internet is going to be really funny when Elon gets assassinated
"can men be lesbians?" bestie in 100 countries women can't be lesbians is this really the most pressing issue rn
since theres been an uptick in transandrophobia and aphobia lately:
you need to care about and support trans men and transmasc people that are asexual or acespec
you need to care about and support trans men and transmasc people that are aromantic or arospec
you need to care about and support trans men and transmasc people that are aplatonic or aplspec
you need to care about and support trans men and transmasc people that are afamilial or afamspec
you need to care about and support trans men and transmasc people that are aspec
Oh, and just in case there was any confusion:
Claiming that anyone who disagrees with you is a big scary antifeminist MAN is a tried and true terf tactic, so it's fucking weird to see it from another trans person.
I'm not a man, but I definitely think radfems are a fucking plague on the queer community, be they cis or trans.
My posts are all: "Hey, don't talk over trans men when they want to discuss their oppression!" "Nonbinary people aren't being treated very well right now, and we're being erased by the rest of the community." "Trans men and trans women aren't enemies." "Care about identities that aren't your own, include other trans people in your advocacy."
Which is apparently a grave enough offense to misgender me and compare me to a nazi, go figures.
It goes to show that some people are really transphobic before they transition, and they refuse to address this after their egg cracks.
It's scary to be transgender in the world right now but if you're transgender I love you and we have to stick together and keep fighting and keep living and keep loving
I really wish I could talk transfeminism to people in real life but I start saying stuff like "Men oppress women" really is too simplistic, and wrong. and, The patriarchy oppresses both men and women, and Cis men are rewarded for upholding It via misogyny, but Individual men aren't the patriarchy. people start looking at me funny
Nix, They/Them, Queer, 20s Sporadically active.Do not gender me.
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