One Thing That Is Now Unfair To Ask Is...what Is Nine's Name? Look Hori Treated Him As An Afterthought

One thing that is now unfair to ask is...what is Nine's name? Look hori treated him as an afterthought but his lack of origins works better than the comical twnko's origins.

Yes his family was all killed thanks to him but ...I can't help to think that scene was too ridiculous.

We never saw anyone mentioned them again, not even shig. (He remembers them in MVA and we do see the disgusting human puppet hori flay around) But that's it.

So Nine...

Im not one of those people who think a new character needs to be related to a pre stabelished one. Nine doesn't need to be a Todoroki, Shimura or hell even a lost Midoriya (hahahahahahaha as if hori would care for this family)

But ....imagine if Nine was related to Oboro, somehow, wouldn't that be interesting?

Maybe, maybe not.

Oboro's character became a thing to turns Aizawa into a better character...and fails. Kuro was sacrificed for nothing.

The thing about Shigaraki/Tenko backstory is that it feels... a bit overdramatic?

Well we can say that about his whole character, but the part of his backstory in particular when he kills his family is so exagerated for the sake of shock value that it kinda feels comical.

Horikoshi tried a bit too hard on make MVA feel like the edgier and "different" arc of the series, but the contrast in so big that I can't take it seriously.

Especially when Hori already nailed a dark tone without being super explicit or over the top.

Take the simplicity of Eri's backstory for example:

One Thing That Is Now Unfair To Ask Is...what Is Nine's Name? Look Hori Treated Him As An Afterthought

No blood, no unnecessary violence, just two panels giving a basic idea of what happened to Eri's father and yet the image of those clothes lying on the floor is much more haunting and eerie than the enterity of Shigaraki backstory.

Why Horikoshi stop being subtle with his storytelling?

...

Anyway going back to Nine real name, or the lack of one, I think it's interesting how that aspect of his character adds to the underlying theme of how AFO and Garaki dehumanize people, especially the ones that are part of their experiments.

One Thing That Is Now Unfair To Ask Is...what Is Nine's Name? Look Hori Treated Him As An Afterthought

We know very well how AFO doesn't view other human being as persons but rather objects that belong to him. This starts with his very own twin brother, which name Yoichi means something like "my first possesion".

And just like Nine, number 6 from Vigilantes was a child which whole life was modeled by AFO. They both are just numbers without a real name.

In this case the idea is presented even more explicitly because Six was a child who suffered some kind of amnesia and couldn't even view himself as a normal human with a face.

He even died as a monster without ever know if he had an identity outside being the number 6.

One Thing That Is Now Unfair To Ask Is...what Is Nine's Name? Look Hori Treated Him As An Afterthought

It's funny how you mention the idea of Nine and Shirakumo being connected somehow, as isn't the first time I've hear that.

It's interesting notice how they share this common theme about sky and clouds as part of who they are (Nine's name also is supposedly a reference to the term "cloud nine") both Nine and Oboro are individuals willing to sacrifice their own lifes for others, and ironically both of them ended being experimented by Dr Garaki.

I even have the headcanon of Kurogiri being the "Number 7" in this line of experiments were Nine and Six belong, as sort of missing link between Six and the sentient nomus.

I probably should make a post later explaining better this idea.

And yes for Horikoshi, Shirakumo was just a diposable character to make Aizawa look cooler and more edgy.

While the author of Vigilantes clearly invested a lot of effort on making Oboro a real and memorable character which complements Aizawa rather than just being an accesory. But that topic deserves it's own post as well.

P.S: I have an idea of what real name we could give to Nine, but I keep it for me at least for the moment.

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6 months ago

I don't really like read any character x reader post to be honest, simply not my cup of tea. That being said fanfics depic Dabi in the same way of being this fuckboy almost idealized to an insane degree and making evey character fell into their knees just to suck his cock.

A weird vision to have about him if you ask me.

Oh I'm with you on Dabi getting his face healed to be an interesting idea, but if that also means when get goes full berserker mode after meet with Endeavor he ends up destroying his face even more.

My own hot take about Dabi's look is that the white hair really doesn't fit with him, even if it's porpuse is good for the story I still prefer his hair to be this stunning pure red like Enji.

On my ideas for an MHA rewrite I got Dabi getting his body healed by Chisaki as part of a deal they have, cause if Dabi works for the yakuza he would need his body recovered to proper fight before the moment he could reach Endeavor/Shoto and have a better change in a direct fight.

Why Dabi would work with Overhaul you might ask? Well simple: why not? Dabi is a total opportunist and doesn't feel any attachament to the league as we seen countless times in canon, so the idea of him saying "fuck off" to Shigaraki and the others as soon a better villain group appears is to good for me.

In my version of Dabi becoming a yakuza associate he would also have a very specific task to Chisaki for his service: once Kai perfect the permanent quirk erasing bullets and mass produce them, Dabi wants a full round for free as reward rather than money.

And he plans to use the bullets against Enji and Shoto to leave them quirkless and being able to enjoy a better revenge than just kill them, or maybe he would kill the rest of the family while they're totally powerless.

I'm not even the biggest fan of Dabi in terms of looks, but always found very weird how the anime constantly makes him look way more defined and with bigger muscles than he has in the manga.

I'm Not Even The Biggest Fan Of Dabi In Terms Of Looks, But Always Found Very Weird How The Anime Constantly
I'm Not Even The Biggest Fan Of Dabi In Terms Of Looks, But Always Found Very Weird How The Anime Constantly
I'm Not Even The Biggest Fan Of Dabi In Terms Of Looks, But Always Found Very Weird How The Anime Constantly
I'm Not Even The Biggest Fan Of Dabi In Terms Of Looks, But Always Found Very Weird How The Anime Constantly

Isn't a bit contradictory for his character to look super ripped? Horikoshi clearly drawn Dabi in that specific way because the story makes emphasis on his body being more frail due having a weak constitution, also contrasting him to the rest of mens in the family who got the big and strong constitution of Enji, Natsuo especially. The anime just lose all the meaning behind that.

And this is more of a personal preference but I find Dabi's body in the manga to look much more attractive and less generic than in the anime. Skinny guys can look attractive as well.

Hi @nyc3

Thanks for the ask bc it's so fitting as I was thinking about how the fandom sees dabi and mr. Possum.

Let me start with this. Have you seen how in the Tumblr the tags of dabi x reader and shig x reader there a HUGE contrast in quality? Shig is depicted as a creepy and weirdo incel while Dabi IS "I'LL STEAL YOUR WIFE😏"

now on a controversial take. I do like the idea of dabi losing his scars. Why? Would increase his quality of life...I find odd how everyone in LoV accepts Dr. Evil's word and never try to take a second opinion. Also, without the scars Dabi would look way more like Endy making his claim be more powerful.

(not a fan of erasing Shig's scars nor the "crusty" jokes. Shig is handsome with his scars)

Now onto your ask: I think Bones just like to make characters hot in a conventional way, JJK men got to be hotter than the manga. But I do notice how bones lacks in translate the manga to anime. Some of the scenes of the manga were done so dirty.

Dabi became hotter aka buffer bc of this. Btw, many dabi x reader like to make the reader have a healing quirk (it should be a trope by now) just so it can heal dabi...which no one account that dabi IS self destructive, a healing quirk is nice but he would do again...unless he changes his mindset (I'm trying to explore this in my fic called besties)

Ask yourself: did shig NEEDED to be buffaraki? Was afo the quirk really need you to be buff?

(was necessary for Izu to gain muscles? Maybe, maybe not)

So to answer: Dabi is attractive in any shape. His writing trumps over shig any day even if shig IS more attractive than Dabi.

5 months ago

Oh dear... Horikoshi isn't a good writter but at least he didn't go so far to make that atrocious "Eri will rewind Shigaraki and the villains into kids" real, neither the equally awful "Shigaraki will unlock the Overhaul part of Decay".

Thank god it didn't happen, just for that I can forgive a lot of shit of the final arc.

Isn't ironic how the lov fans are also really selective in terms of who can be saved and not? The love to shit on the heroes for not save their precious babies, but is like only 3 villains exist for them.

Like why Chisaki wouldn't deserve to be saved as well? He had a shitty life and his crimes are far less worse than mass murdered like the LOV did.

But nah... no villains deserves to be saved aside of the league of lames.

You can imagine how happy makes me see them getting angry because Chisaki and Muscular the "pure evil" villains are alive while crusty bitch and his friends are rotting in hell.

The ship of Kurogiri and Compress is so random and for some reason is super popular despite they have no interactions whatsoever. Like I don't care about Kurogiri, but considering Shigarakumo is somewhere inside and has to deal with all that bs from Compress... eh I feel for the poor boy.

Have you ever think on how rewrite Compress?

Like I've always thought he must be one of the worse written characters in this series, and that's saying a lot when your writer is Horikoshi.

Outside of being handsome under that stupid outfit and his quirk, everything about Compress is kind of lame. Many other characters have similar concepts but much better execution.

I have some ideas to change his entire role, but nothing serious yet.

Hi @nyc3

Glad you ask bc...I never really gave much thought on Compress. Yes, he is handsome (everyone in MHA is handsome but Izu who Hori says is a gag character) but the man is ...meh, to me. Lov stans go nuts and call him the "dad of the group" and jokes aside....

He isn't even remotely close to be on this label. Kuro? I get it (even if Shig is uncaring for the Nomu. I get why, more or less, I mean I can imagine it's bc how Kuro was passive in the whole shit afo did...but shig still remain faithful to afo) but Mr. Compress is nothing.

Yes, he says one nice thing to Toga (another nutcase) but this is nothing. I do admit lov can work with each other and it's more than Izu gets...but that's the bare minimum.

So no. Mr. Compress is just a big nothing....but he is handsome.

At least he isn't a Spinner.

Dont be a Spinner.

5 months ago

Oh yes don't get me wrong, I don't think in canon any part about Yoichi and AFO relationship has any positive side, is totally horrible and toxic but still love the dynamic as a villain motivation. And is funny how the feelings are not one sided as many of AFO detractors think, because Yoichi until his 2nd death as vestige acts like he always wanted AFO to came back to him and be saved somehow.

On a related note, KudoIchi shippers are so freaking annoying...

Nine is a gentleman... that's canon. He has standards unlike crusty kid.

Eh... I wouldn't say any character in DS is trying to be like Bakugou. There's many abrasive characters in that series, but they're far from being similar to Bakugou in any other trait or story role.

Idk why anime fans are so reductive to compare characters based only on archetypes.

Is like the people who compare Shoto and Giyuu Tomioka from DS just because they're the "emo guy" of the series, when outside of a very basic part of their personalities both characters are nothing alike.

Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...

Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.

Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?

Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.

So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.

In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.

Canon Possum Is A Joke But One Thing I Never Forget Is How Decay IS Powerful, Sure A Powerful Quirk With

It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.

I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.

But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.

Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.

Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.

Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.

Canon Possum Is A Joke But One Thing I Never Forget Is How Decay IS Powerful, Sure A Powerful Quirk With
2 months ago

I'm sorry but it needs to be said - MHA literally has a character whose whole entire quirk is fucking vibrate and I see absolutely nothing for him, the fuck kind of crime is this

I'm Sorry But It Needs To Be Said - MHA Literally Has A Character Whose Whole Entire Quirk Is Fucking
I'm Sorry But It Needs To Be Said - MHA Literally Has A Character Whose Whole Entire Quirk Is Fucking
6 months ago

Six

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Seven

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Nine

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5 months ago

You can't imagine how much I love the Cider House leader guy...

You Can't Imagine How Much I Love The Cider House Leader Guy...
You Can't Imagine How Much I Love The Cider House Leader Guy...
You Can't Imagine How Much I Love The Cider House Leader Guy...

A minor villain has no right to look so cool, badass and handsome like he does.

Also he probably got the best water quirk of the series.

You Can't Imagine How Much I Love The Cider House Leader Guy...
You Can't Imagine How Much I Love The Cider House Leader Guy...

Also he got so much sassy energy on top of having such insane drip.

You Can't Imagine How Much I Love The Cider House Leader Guy...

Being one of his like 3 fans isn't easy, but still love him.


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1 year ago

Cider House gang leader.

Cider House Gang Leader.
Cider House Gang Leader.
Cider House Gang Leader.

How a minor villain with a few chapters of screen time have such an awesome design and power?

I really need more Cider content now 🌊🩵


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2 weeks ago
Drew A Little Naoya Sketch As A Break From The Art I’m Working On
Drew A Little Naoya Sketch As A Break From The Art I’m Working On

Drew a little Naoya sketch as a break from the art I’m working on


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5 months ago

Looking at the characters pages in the Volume Rising extras, I notice an interesting detail about Slice's background.

Looking At The Characters Pages In The Volume Rising Extras, I Notice An Interesting Detail About Slice's

Now I'm aware this is a rough translation by google, but it's interesting that Horikoshi explicitly describes Slice as being used by "men".

Which could also connect with this panel from Nine's origin backstory, in which Slice is seen lying on the floor of a destroyed apartment looking totally defeated and helpless.

Looking At The Characters Pages In The Volume Rising Extras, I Notice An Interesting Detail About Slice's

As far I know this is the only time a female character (and a villain for that mattter) in the series is written with an explicit background about being used and possible exploited by mens, implying a context of misoginia.

Which also makes me wish we had more context about Slice relationship with Nine and the rest of the crew.

How she pass from not trust anyone to be fully concerned about her team? (All being mens).

Looking At The Characters Pages In The Volume Rising Extras, I Notice An Interesting Detail About Slice's
Looking At The Characters Pages In The Volume Rising Extras, I Notice An Interesting Detail About Slice's

There's a lot of potential to developed their relationship there.

But an important note: I don't see Slice devotion to Nine and his ideals as romantic, not at all like much people like to interpret just because she's a woman. I feel that kinda goes against her characterization, considering Nine probably was the first man she ever trust but unlike others he wasn’t a lover or anything, but a savior and a true friend/family.

Horikoshi also says on Slice character page that Nine asked her about her quirk first and he values the name of it over actual names (which btw adds to Nine's own characterization considering he doesn't have a real name). I like to think it might be one of the reasons of why Slice trust so much on Nine's vision for the world, as he probably give a new meaning to her life other than being a pretty face and help her to value her own power.


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5 months ago

I love when a woman is confident enough to tell his bf that he looks how af.

The scar kissing... uf.

And yeah they would have sex on the middle of the beach despite how impractical it is, but hey think about this: they have sex in the most unbelievable places you can imagine, from alleways to rooftops. All this after fight villains together since that turns them on.

Shippy thing for the couple.

Cinder teaching Izu how to swim/surf. Like, in canon Izu never was in a beach (sigh we do have a light novel where the main joke is "Izu is almost eat by an orc bc he thought it was the hero orc" hate it) well, here Izumi has a beach day.

A few details.

Aside the scars on her arms. Izuchan has big boobs.

No, this isn't ecchi. There a narrative reason for that.

Heroines with big boobs are more profitable bc you can explore the sex appeal, see Momo. But what you think happens with villainess that are well endowed?

They are seductress, sluts who will steal your man.

Izumi never even kisses someone ...she is getting comfortable with a lot before considering kisses. Which it's funnier bc the media paints her as this slut when she is not. Before meeting cinder she was on the path on finally seeing her scars as smth other than painful. (Not to attribute this to one guy)

So...in a beach day, Izumi in her bikini is a character development visually.

Cinder is allowed to admire...she is a pretty girl.

He uses his quirk and teaches her how to surf.

They just having fun.

Oh I was totally into making a good beach day for them. It's the quintessential form of fanservice after all.

The orca thing was actually canon? I always thought it cames from that "smash" comic that was explicitly non canon and self parody.

Anyways, while I'm not super into big boobs for woman to be considered attractive, is a fact that if Midoriya was a woman she would have the same atributes as Inko who certainly has very generous proportions.

And Cider surely likes that, and oh boy he sure isn't shy to express how much he likes the body of his girl (scars included of course).

And do you think Izumi is into guy with big pecs? Because Cider got some nice ones and he loves use tank tops just to make them look better.

Them having a good day in the water is all what they deserve after dealing with a lot of shit. And Izumi is a quick learner so by the end of the day she would be surfing like a professional, impressing Cider.

I like to think they would end the day looking at the sunset sitting together on the warm sand, Izumi resting her head on Mizunami shoulder and he has an arm wrapped around her waist. They got a kissing sessions of course, what a way to end a good day.

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