Well perhaps that's a good way to describe it, because I don't like how he' written and I hate how he ends being a big detriment for the quality of the story and ruins a lot of good character with his presence alone.
In concept he's fine, there's some elements about him that could be good if Horikoshi didn't overstay his welcome forcing him into a main villain role.
If he was like Mahito who dies at the middle of the story for example, it will be far more tolerable.
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I will also support Muzan, but not because I like him more than AFO, but simply Muzan at least never let his creations outsmart or overwhelm him in any way. He was truly in full control, something AFO never truly felt in canon.
Wonder how Muzan would react to AFO desire to create a world in which everyone exist only for him, as he said to Yoichi.
Muzan probably will be like "how this inferior maggot think I would exist for him?" and he will be very offended.
What do you think about another crossover AU for SeltzerBunny? This time with Demon Slayer.
It's kinda easy to adapt the respective canon quirks of our dear couple into Breathing Styles.
Cider/Mizunami obviously would be a water breathing user, and for this AU I like to think he would be tsuguko of Sabito who survived this time.
While Midoriya is a wind breathing user (cause you know air force and float and green aesthetic... whatever) who was saved by Masachika (Yeah he's also alive at least for now) from the lower moon who killed his mother.
That lower moon would be no other than BK, who is a promising demon in ascension who is capable of generate explosions like his quirk in MHA.
And this would make Midoriya quest for revenge his principal motivation.
Still thinking about the details for this AU and who should be the other characters adapted into it, as MHA having such a big cast compared to DS force me to pick only the necessary lol.
@nyc3 hello
So while I did saw the first season of DS and do think it's well paced and better than MHA in every way -not a big achievement to behold. I didnt saw the other seasons, I got spoilers here and there. My point is how some of the names here are unknown to me.
That being said...I do like more aus for this ship.
Cinder is still a thief in this au or he seeks revenge?
How they meet and how is their dynamic?
(Almost finishing chapter 1 of my seltzer bunny fic)
A soft Valentine's gift for them <3 Thank you @nyc3 for the most excellent mental image!
Full image under the cut, mind the 🍑
YoDeku shippers, we won.
I don't even play the game, but they need to keep feeding us with this kind of content.
Aren't they the coolest couple ever?
Midoriya deserves to be happy with his handsome boyfriend in the steampunk world.
They totally run a workshop together btw.
Thank you! Glad you liked my h.c and thanks again for add your own!
You know? This made me realize that unlike almost all the members of the MLA, Geten doesn't use any kind of support item despite all them do it because Re-Destro owns a tech company.
I wonder if Geten has some kind of distaste for support items, a mindset of "a true warrior doesn't need cheap toys for fight". Kinda crazy but hey, it's implied Geten is sort of a freak even among the MLA because of how much he's totally devoted to the cause, and he canonically is very prideful about his quirk.
Mikeellee and me play a lot with the idea of Geten being sort of an empty person who doesn't live for anything that isn't fight for Destro cause. A perfect child soldier, and he clash a lot with Cider (his bro in my AU) for this reason.
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Yeah Dabi obviously join the league because obviously he was at the very bottom at that point and for put his plans in action he needed a good start point, and considering Giran is good at selling promises he surely was convinced.
His whole Stain fanboy persona was pretty much a performance, I've talked about that other times. An easy way to fit into a group that at the time was supposed to have Stain in it, but when Dabi discovered it wasn't the case he dropped the act almost instantly.
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That idea of Re-Destro wanting to get control of the MLA again could've reedemed his character a bit, but to bad it didn't go anywhere.
But hey you make me think a new scenario in which Nine starts getting a lot of traction after Shingaraki became the new leader of the MLA, so when Nine builds a big reputation people like Geten and especially Re-Destro left the PLF and start follow Nine who in their eyes is the true incarnation of the original Destro dreams.
Which Nine is in fact. Seriously if Re-Destro "liked" Shigaraki, then Nine would be his wet dream.
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Nine is hauntingly beautiful, his eyes are just mesmerizing.
And in that scenario where Nine is Geten father, how old he is?
Cause for me Nine is at much early 20s.
How cinder enters the world of crime? I know this feels a simplistic question but it also can adds layers to world building. Like, say he was kicked out of the Himura household at 15...what he would do? Join a crime organization right away?
Assuming someone took him in. Did he wanted do crimes or was his only option?
I ask this bc...many Himuras we see are either in shitty situations or in crimes. Rei did endure a crime against her. Geten is an attack dog and Mizumi is the leader of a gang(benevolent as they all may be...it's still a gang)
And my final question (s)
How Cinder reacts to possum? See, possum wants destruction for the sake of destruction and anyone sane would say "fuck you" to that. Even if Cinder was a malicious and evil person...there was nothing to gain with Shig. (I HC many capable villains scoff and turn down working with LoV even if they are fans of Stain. Dabi is the best one and to this day I don't get why he joins LoV.)
Would Cinder and Nine be on good terms or enemies?
I mean, when you're kicked out of your house to survive in the streets isn't like you get many options.
My guess is that Mizunami started from the bottom working for some low tier gang before leave and form his own group, aka the Cider House gang.
For the moment I can't give a more fleshed out answer to that specific question, but considering Mizunami aptitude after the prison break we can assume he at least enjoys being free comit crimes as robbery as much he wants, despite having a more noble side by avoid harm civilians. Perhaps he got the habit with the years, don't know really.
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No villain with an IQ of more than 2 digits would find Shigaraki a worthy option to work with, and we know Cider is way to smart for that.
If you think about it, not even the MLA soldiers actually liked Shigaraki as their new leader. They were pretty much against it but stayed loyal only because Re-Destro (a bigger idiot) suddlenly became Shigaraki number 1 bootlicker.
Why Dabi joined lov? Because Horikoshi wanted his dumb villain group but didn’t even bother to write a believable reason for that.
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I would say Mizunami and Nine would be in neutral terms all things considered.
Cider would find Nine to be way more dangerous than Shigaraki, because unlike crusty boy Nine is man with strong convictions and capable to do way more damage. And also his ideology remind Mizunami to his brother Geten, which isn't q good signal.
But from Nine side I don't think he would mind Cider that much. As unlike Re-Destro who has a similar mindset and will kill you for not join his cause, Nine doesn't seem to mind of people following him or no, after all his ideal world is one in which the strongest rule but he doesn't harm the weaks just because he can (as he didn't kill the heroes he stealed quirks or Katsuma dad for example).h
I'm sorry but it needs to be said - MHA literally has a character whose whole entire quirk is fucking vibrate and I see absolutely nothing for him, the fuck kind of crime is this
I hope I started a chain reaction to get more people interesting into Cider House.
One at time.
It's funny as hell how Horikoshi declared a lot of times how he put so much effort on Shigaraki design to make him unique and super symbolic, just for ended up going with a generic shirtless look for most the rest of the series and big muscles rather than his original boney look.
I guess he realized people didn't take seriously as villain a dude with a lot of hands and clown shoes.
Note: maybe that's why also almost every other time post awakening Shigaraki is barefoot?
I think he spend more time barefoot at this point than with the clown shoes on.
Can't stop thinking about a CiderDeku focused AU in which our favorite seltzer boy and Midoriya work as part time vigilantes together.
And since Izuku has a fire bending quirk in this AU, the contrast of his quirk and Cider's (who is named Mizunami Himura in this story) make people start calling them "Steam-Bow couple" as their unofficial vigilantes name.
Still thinking about the details of how they started their crusade together as vigilantes, but I like that idea I mention in other post about Mizunami saving Izuku from Bakugou when both of them still were in Aldera and Midoriya was around 13. Mizunami still was the leader of the Cider House gang (and maybe two years older than Midoriya) but later he left the group because he felt his members started to be way too problematic and getting in worse situations with civilians and heroes, something he didn't like because while Mizunami commited crimes like robbery he never tried to harm innocent people during his operations.
Besides he started feeling for Izuku after protect him from Bakugou, and since Izu wanted to stay with him after the incident they both start to get along and quickly became good friends, Mizu also helping Izu no being so shy and insecure about himself due the years of bullying.
He start helping Izuku to train his quirk and body during his free time, which served a lot for Midoriya to get in good shape and develop a fight style for the years to come as he still intented to apply to at least a low-middle tier hero school (and this will became important later).
I like to think the incident with the Sludge monster from chapter 1 was what caused a twist on their relationship, as unlike what happens in canon here when both of them are attacked by the Slime that escaped from A.M, Izuku and Mizunami give the monster a big surprise because they were able to fight back.
Slime turned to be quite vulnerable to water and fire combined, which allowed Izu and Mizu to restrain him in a bottle of soda and left him for the heroes finish the job later, as they run totally excited by the experience.
After escape and being safe, Izuku suddenly jump to the arms of Mizunami and they started kissing out of the excitement of the moment. When they calm down both smiled and since that moment they became officially boyfriends, and decide they would have more moments like this in the future so they will start fight criminals together.
Also the incident also give Izuku the final confidence boost he always needed and when Bakugou provoked him after school trying to make fun of Mizunami who was there for walk along Izuku to his home, Midoriya decided he had enough when Katsuki insulted his boyfriend.
So what happened next is that Izuku deep breath and expelled a big green fire ball from his mouth, which resulted in Bakugou getting a lot of first degree burns and loosing his eyebrows (something for what he would be mocked a lot later).
Mizunami used his water quirk to extinguish the fire over Bakugo's clothes who is totally terrified, then Mizu and Izuku laugh at him take a picture with their funs for future reference and run away together.
Hi @nyc3
CinderIzu is great and Cinder as a character was ignored, slept on ...bc villain stans are predictable into hot villains like dabi and shig(yes, shig is hot even in his possum way) and ...damn this fandom waste a good opportunity for a ship.
For a moment, thought you were talking about my idea.
I do like the idea Izumi being considered so beautiful even with her scars (she is prettier bc of her scars bc this woman survived) so in a country where the woman's value depends on her beauty...Izumi carrying her scars and being hot is amazing. Cinder would be into!
Cinder would also be into kill bk!
Her entire story, as she describes what BK did, seems like SA. See? The difference of boy and girl here is how people perceive the violence.
But I'm into this ship.
I do like sgdk a lot.
I do like dabideku too
But CinderIzu??? I'm open and so far like the ideas.
Powerful and aesthetically pleasing couple.
Also Midoriya surely loves to put his hand around Giulio waist.
Our Deku is such a naughty boy.
He's having such a trip with each movie.
Idk how the actual comparison was, and I remember it from some years ago.
But I can imagine Nine and Mewtwo are kind of similar on being created as bioweapons by some evil scientist dude and their more cartoony evil boss, yet both Nine and Mewtwo reveal themselves and want to persue their own ideals.
And the aesthetic similarities in their armor and powers based on purple lightning:
Note: The only version of Mewtwo I know is the one from the movie.
Lowkey think that Mewtwo and Nine would be friends if their meet, but they also would fight to see who is the strongest.
Any crossover between MHA and other franchise you like?
Hi @nyc3 funny you ask me this bc I was thinking about an au where Izumi is in a pokemon world. Srsly!
Izumi is a poke trainer, she has eevees and eeveelutions (I think it fits here. One Eevee can be anything just like Izumi)
And well Cinder menages to steal a gym becaming a gym leader (people like him better lol) and well, things happen.
On a broad side, I don't have much crossovers for mha. They work fine as they are...they just need a good writing.
Oh yeah, Nine hardly would tolerate the doctor when he discovers the most shady parts of his work.
I imagine Nine would also despise the concept of the nomus considering them beasts that shouldn't exist.
As if Nine would kill the doctor once he doesn't need him anymore, is pretty much guaranteed even more if Dr tries to turn Nine into his new AFO.
This scene lives rent free in my head 🫣
Also I wonder why Nine is nude inside that tank but Shigaraki was using a swimsuit in the same situation:
Ujiko is such a naughty bastard lol.
@bibibbon I was reading your post and thinking when you mentioned Mummy, and certainly is sad and disappointing that out of Nine's crew he was the one to get the short stick in terms of screentime and interactions with his own leader.
Such a cool looking villain with an awesome power shouldn't be treated like fooder.
But eh... I guess they really need give Bakugo an easy victory to show how badass he can be compared to the other loosers from the class.
Anyway, before getting absorbed by my hater side I can share my ideas about rewrite Mummy, because like his friends is fun write about him and fill the empty space left by the author.
Starting for his backstory:
This idea isn't entirely mine, but I love the concept of Mummy and Edgeshot being related.
Interesting to think because they share same birthdays, both their quirks have the aesthetic of red tape, they have grey hair and the names "Kamihara" and "Makihara" sound strangely similar.
I've seen people write them as twins, but I like more the idea of them having a big age gap in case of being brothers which fits more with Shinya being in his 30s in canon.
And so both Hoyo and Shinya being brothers born in a very traditional japanese family would make room for some family drama, as is more than probably that Shinya being the first born and with a quirk like foldabody would probably be seen as the pride of the family.
While Hoyo is seen as lesser and never able to live up to the level of his older brother, especially after Shinya got accepted at UA and started pay less attention to Hoyo.
While during his early childhood Hoyo only support was Shinya when he left the family state to focus on his studies Hoyo was alone with a family that never supported him and constantly remembered him how inferior he was.
Hoyo will reach a break point when his parents tried to get rid of him when he was entering on his teenage years, and he discovered they sold him to a mysterious organization that was looking for young low tier soldiers (which for some reason still happens in MHA world and nobody seem to care about it).
Note: This organizagion will be no other than the MLA but isn't really important for the story for now.
And so, without anything to lose since Shinya was long gone at that point, Hoyo escaped the family state and never came back. He also invented the false surname Makihara, as he didn't want anything to do with his family.
That would be the beginning of some rough years living in the streets for Hoyo.
Without proper studies (since he only got the basics at home instead of going to an actual school) and technically being a fugitive of his own family, Hoyo only could resort of stealing and other minor crimes for try to survive being homeless.
I imagine he also tried to gain some money doing dirty jobs for other criminals, which might be why we see him beating thugs in the street during the flashbacks.
That being said, this empty life style wasn't something Hoyo was happy about.
He still feel the necessity of prove himself and try to became something better, he was angry at the world and his family, and he also missed Shinya despite he didn't want to admit and prove his brother his worth.
Despite Hoyo's quirk still seemed to be quite useless as he couldn't do much with his puppets and give up at some point.
That was until he meet Nine...
My idea of how they meet is that Hoyo was hired to expulse Nine from the territory of a criminal gang that didn't like a homeless man like him was wandering in there.
Expecting just another quick job for a bit of cash Hoyo used his quirk with and old scarf to create a puppet out a vending machine, with he would use to intimidate the white haired man described by the gang.
Worse case scenario would be him having to beat the man in case he resists but isn't like he cared.
What Hoyo didn't expect is that when he meet the white haired man this one would have an aura of calm around him and rather than look intimidated by him or his puppet, he only got a glaze of interest coming from him.
"That... looks like a very powerful ability you got there" Nine commented very calmly looking at Hoyo like if he already knew everything from him.
Hoyo was a bit confused by the statement (and internally a bit intimidated by the way the white haired man seem look through him) but he only wanted to finish the job quickly as he was hungry and needed the money the gang offered.
So he tried to attack the white haired man with his puppet, but in the blink on an eye a small lightning bolt hit the puppet and make it explode.
Hoyo was pushed back by the explosion and the white haired man was still there with an unfazed expression.
"Not that powerful yet but..." Nine said looking at Hoyo "I can make it stronger" He said like it was a promise.
Nine then walk away and Hoyo tried to follow him without understand anything of what was happen, until they were almost in front of the gang hideout.
Hoyo observed how the white haired man rising one of his hands at the sky, and he didn't realize how suddlenly the dark clouds covered what until some moments was a very clear night.
A lightning bolt came from the sky and impacted the buildings Hoyo knew the gang used to hide, making the ground vibrate as they explode illuminating the night with the fire and the white haired man was stading there with the same bored expression as he that act of destruction was nothing for him.
Hoyo was totally speechless by that demonstration of power.
"I assume they won't represent a problem for you from now, I understand they wanted you to get me out of here so you don't have to worry for not get the job done" the white haired man said with the same calm Hoyo was used at that point.
For some reason it reminded him to someone else...
"Huh... and what do you want from me?" Hoyo replied rising his eyebrown tried to show more confidence that he actually felt "This kind of "favors" can't be for free"
"From you? Nothing..." Nine said plain and simple "Maybe offer you something, but first we should get out of here, he police and heroes can be annoying and they probably were alerted by my little spectacle" He said before walking out of the scene.
Hoyo didn't know why but he started walking behind the white haired man. There wasn't much to lose anyway...
"Are you hungry? Personally I am, so maybe we can get some food" Nine said after notice the young boy was following him.
Hoyo agreed on that, he really could get something to eat.
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After all that happened Nine started to explain to Hoyo what his ideals and dream to change the world, a dream he really wanted to share with Hoyo for some reason.
Even if he didn't believe he meet the standards of power the white haired man claim to have, but Nine keep insisting on the potential of his quirk and how Hoyo was stronger than he realize and how wrong society was for overlook his true potential.
Not much time later Hoyo meet a friend of Nine, a really intimidating mutant who called himself Chimera and that name was fitting considering he was a mix of countless animals.
Hoyo found the guy to be quite charismatic and funny regardless of his loon however, and he was also very compromised to follow Nine's vision for the ideal world he evisioned.
And one day Nine also surprised Hoyo with a gift: a lot of red bandages that he notice were more resistant and powerful than anything he previously used to activate his quirk.
"Your power is greater than you think Hoyo, don't believe what the weakelings tried to make you think all your life. You can be better than them, you can fight for the world we deserve" Nine said in the most genuine way Hoyo ever heaf from someone.
And Hoyo really felt weak but also strong for equal reasons that moment, as never during his whole life he felt supported the way Nine made him to feel. Not his own blood family, not even Shinya, but this man who only wanted to give him and Chimera a better world to live.
Hoyo knew that moment that his life and heart belong to Nine and his cause forever, he give him a real family and home without even expect anything from Hoyo other than fight together like a team.
It motivated Hoyo to push himself and his quirk over the boundaries, training endlessly with the help of Nine and Chimera, so what once was the ability of control a single puppet quickly became the power of create armies of puppet soldiers thanks to the gift Nine give to him.
He even discovered an inhate talent with the sword, a gift courtesy of Chimera by the way.
Hoyo was poweful indeed, just like his friends believed.
But he also wanted a new identity as well, as his born name no longer felt something that represented who he was.
Then Hoyo became Mummy, and he used the bandages gifted by his leader to cover his body.
He felt safe and powerful like that.
Mummy finally meet himself that moment and knew who he really was.
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P.S:
-Despite I make Shinya look like a careless and selfish brother in the backstory, I actually think later when he found what his parents did to Hoyo he resents them and felt totally guilty for not being there for his little brother. Edgeshot look for Hoyo during years hoping to find him someday and be a family again, he also keep his parents out of his life after what they did to Hoyo.
-I don't mention Slice here because I think she was the last one to join the team some time later than Mummy.
-While their age difference isn't actually that big, I like the idea of Mummy considering Nine a big brother figure and somehow filling the empty space left by Shinya.
Is more like back in the day the only way to watch Naruto was on TV, but the cable networks in my country only had the first parts of Naruto and follow the anime on pirate sites wasn't really an option with middle 2000s internet lol.
I should watch it some day though cause I have good memories of early Naruto.
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Cider totally knows Izumi/Izuku looks at him and goes crazy, so he actually play with that and maybe accidentally He drops water on shirt as an excuse to take it off in front of our fav boy/girl.
Mizunami is a bit diabolical sometimes.
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You know? I never made the comparison between Cider and Compress but it makes a lot of sense.
Is funny how Cider intro is him saying they planned the steal operations for months to get the most cash without deal with heroes, but is notorious how neither him or his gang harm any civilians in the process. And not even after escape prison Cider attemps to harms anyone unlike almost all the other jailbreakers.
You also have Gentle as the well made version of Compress, because also a thief who tries to create spectacle but not harm civilians in the process.
Is ironic how lov fans always put Compress as the "sane" from the group, but that dude showed a lot of times to have sadistic tendencies and unlike his friends he has zero reasons to act that way.
Also tf was that scene of he putting Bakugou and Tokoyami on his mouth?
Tbh the whole idea of "my grandpa was robin hood" Horikoshi forced into Compress feels like a concept for a totally different character reporpused into the backstory of the only lov member without any background.
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Also the Humiras sure have an app like Tinder for selling their members, probably is on the playstore.
The whole cinderIzu is great and I welcome with open arms. For my au, I have an idea for them meet.
Again, BK is a footnote in her life and Izumi is not dedicating all her time and energy in thinking of him. (She hears how his quirk remains the same, no quirk awakening bs, how bk's attitude got worse and how Aizawa is sure BK is the future)
Izumi hears about the mpa here and there and ...is not impressed. She needs money, her group can't work by luck...they need ration and more, and Izumi is not happy ReDestro has "schools" for kids to learn their quirks...its just a camp where the kid learns how to use their quirk AND NOTHING ELSE (Geten my be alliterate here)
Stealing from Redestro is not something she can pull off on her own. She needs help to do this heist.
(the quirk schools aren't illegal, per se, but it rubs Izumi in the wrong way. She is right)
Enters Cinder. He shows up with his helmet, all gear up and...well, he too needs money and Mr. Youtsubashi is loaded and if he wants to make quirk schools, fine...let's rob the fucker.
Izumi gawks as Cinder removes his helmet. He is handsome and cute...she wasn't expecting this.
Lol
(I love a good mask reveal!)
I also live for the moments when a character takes of their mask and reveals to be hot, and Cider isn't the exception. I mean can you blame Midoriya for what him?
Note: Izu probably loves in particular the little scar Cider got in his eyebrown, he/her found that detail to be especially sexy.
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Is funny you mention the whole plot of Cider helping Izu to steal stuff from Re-Destro company, as I also have this idea of him making an operation to steal from a werehouse full of valuable tech and support items that Detnerant (I think that's the company name) sells into the black market.
They would have success stealing a lot of merch they later sell to get money, but also Cider found a particularly expensive prototype of a high tech glider he decides to keep for himself and use to compliment his surfing style. As Mizunami is really into surfing in my AU, like he seems to be in canon.
Oh I forgot to mention before but the vigilante name Cider/Mizunami will use for my AU will be "Splashdown". Be free to use it if you like the name.
And since you mentioned Geten here, do you think he will have some role in the story? As I mentioned before I love the idea of Cider being a Himura, but also he probably was rejected by his clan because his quirk is water instead of ice and the Himuras seems to be the kind of elitist jerks to would dishonor a child for born with a "imperfect" quirk.
Which would create a lot of tension between Cider and Geten, especially is they reconogice each other. Geten hating Cider for being "a failed Himura" and Cider will hate Geten because he's just a "an attack dog" for Re-Destro.