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Can you develop a boxing AU between Izuku and Yo Shindou? Like Yo Shindou tries to concentrate on the fight, but gets distracted by Izuku's muscular body and Izuku's determined smile. (Please answer my question)
Oh this is sure an interesting scenario, but unfortunately I don't know anything about boxing beyond the most basic concepts so I don't think I can do justice to the idea.
But let me tell you: I love YoDeku/ShinDeku or YoIzu, whatever name you prefer for the ship. Yo and Izuku would have a lot of chemistry together I and love seeing healthy interpreations of them.
For this AU in particular (or just in general) I imagine Shindo being a bit surprised by the contrast or Midoriya "cute" and soft face that isn't very common on the boxing world, compared to his well trained body.
And Midoriya wouldn’t ignore Yo's muscles either, let me tell you.
This is such a fun scene when you think about the context, cause is supposed to be from Chrono's perspective.
Chrono really think he can fool us and make us think Chisaki, a person with severe misophonia, would voluntarily enter in a cage fight shirtless AND without gloves?
Especially considering we have another flashback of the same or a similar situation from Rappa's perspective and we clearly see Chisaki doesn't take off his clothes for "fight".
Is Chrono so thirsty for Kai that he unconsciously imagines him shirtless?
Well I can't blame you at all Hari... I do the same thing all the time.
But Chisaki needs a maternal figure in his life as well... and considering I ship OverHawks very hard is funny imagine Nagant reaction when she see his successor and the yakuza she rescued together. She would be like "The world sure is tiny".
Outside of that she taking care of Kai shows how her primary instincs of being a protective figure are still there, which could also extent to other characters.
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Kind of funny how Shoto with a double effect quirk is seen as some kind of miracle and god among mens, yet when Midoriya starts unlocking quirks every month people is like "oh yeah whatever".
I think that's just Horikoshi making everyone act like an idiot only for the reveal of OFA being a thing look like a big surprise, but that only makes the characters seem stupid. And there's this recurrent joke among the fandom of how the photographer dude from S4 discovered Midoriya secret after spend a few hours with him, but his friends just give his power for granted.
Cider is way smarter than them. He would notice something isn't very normal about a person with so many powers, but that also would fascinate him and what to know more, because it is a cool thing to have.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
Oh dear... Horikoshi isn't a good writter but at least he didn't go so far to make that atrocious "Eri will rewind Shigaraki and the villains into kids" real, neither the equally awful "Shigaraki will unlock the Overhaul part of Decay".
Thank god it didn't happen, just for that I can forgive a lot of shit of the final arc.
Isn't ironic how the lov fans are also really selective in terms of who can be saved and not? The love to shit on the heroes for not save their precious babies, but is like only 3 villains exist for them.
Like why Chisaki wouldn't deserve to be saved as well? He had a shitty life and his crimes are far less worse than mass murdered like the LOV did.
But nah... no villains deserves to be saved aside of the league of lames.
You can imagine how happy makes me see them getting angry because Chisaki and Muscular the "pure evil" villains are alive while crusty bitch and his friends are rotting in hell.
The ship of Kurogiri and Compress is so random and for some reason is super popular despite they have no interactions whatsoever. Like I don't care about Kurogiri, but considering Shigarakumo is somewhere inside and has to deal with all that bs from Compress... eh I feel for the poor boy.
Have you ever think on how rewrite Compress?
Like I've always thought he must be one of the worse written characters in this series, and that's saying a lot when your writer is Horikoshi.
Outside of being handsome under that stupid outfit and his quirk, everything about Compress is kind of lame. Many other characters have similar concepts but much better execution.
I have some ideas to change his entire role, but nothing serious yet.
Hi @nyc3
Glad you ask bc...I never really gave much thought on Compress. Yes, he is handsome (everyone in MHA is handsome but Izu who Hori says is a gag character) but the man is ...meh, to me. Lov stans go nuts and call him the "dad of the group" and jokes aside....
He isn't even remotely close to be on this label. Kuro? I get it (even if Shig is uncaring for the Nomu. I get why, more or less, I mean I can imagine it's bc how Kuro was passive in the whole shit afo did...but shig still remain faithful to afo) but Mr. Compress is nothing.
Yes, he says one nice thing to Toga (another nutcase) but this is nothing. I do admit lov can work with each other and it's more than Izu gets...but that's the bare minimum.
So no. Mr. Compress is just a big nothing....but he is handsome.
At least he isn't a Spinner.
Dont be a Spinner.
I only lament Nagant didn't have a final exchange with Chisaki after all their time together ane dynamic. Don't really ship them that much, but their relationship can be interesting.
I don't think Cider is a guy who gives much attention to what happens in social media tbh, that goes for him or other villains.
That being said I would find funny if he's supper popular on the MHA equivalent to TikTok, as I said before irl he got a lot of attention from that platform. I've seen a lot of clips and edits of him, especially after his cameo post war.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
I wouldn't call everyone in MHA handsome (look at Spinner).
But yeah... something really funny about lov stans is that they don't seem to like the canon characters they claim to love, they only are fans of these weird idealized fanon versions of a bunch of psychos and surprise surprise, they get a bit mad when Horikoshi doesn't follow their weird headcanons.
Have you ever wonder why lov stans were so mad when Dabi the maniac serial killer didn't turn to be a secret knight in white armor who fight for his family and is a sjw? His fans eated his fanon version for so many years that eventually accepted that as real, and got a breakdown moment when the canon Dabi was nothing like the fanfics.
Compress on the other hand doesn't even have much of a fanon identity either. Aside of the "dad" jokes he's kinda ignored.
I wish the concept of the grandson of a villain Robin Hood from the old tines was used for a hero instead, that would be an interesting spin for a character who wants to "correct" the legacy of his bloodline.
Have you ever think on how rewrite Compress?
Like I've always thought he must be one of the worse written characters in this series, and that's saying a lot when your writer is Horikoshi.
Outside of being handsome under that stupid outfit and his quirk, everything about Compress is kind of lame. Many other characters have similar concepts but much better execution.
I have some ideas to change his entire role, but nothing serious yet.
Hi @nyc3
Glad you ask bc...I never really gave much thought on Compress. Yes, he is handsome (everyone in MHA is handsome but Izu who Hori says is a gag character) but the man is ...meh, to me. Lov stans go nuts and call him the "dad of the group" and jokes aside....
He isn't even remotely close to be on this label. Kuro? I get it (even if Shig is uncaring for the Nomu. I get why, more or less, I mean I can imagine it's bc how Kuro was passive in the whole shit afo did...but shig still remain faithful to afo) but Mr. Compress is nothing.
Yes, he says one nice thing to Toga (another nutcase) but this is nothing. I do admit lov can work with each other and it's more than Izu gets...but that's the bare minimum.
So no. Mr. Compress is just a big nothing....but he is handsome.
At least he isn't a Spinner.
Dont be a Spinner.
I sort of love the idea of Cider being the kind of guy which mindset is "Thiefs used to have standards" while he beats the shit out of Compress.
I think he and Gentle would actually appreciate each other moral codes.
Nagant is the team? I usually pair her with the Shie Hassaikai, because her interactions with Chisaki make me appreciate her more, but I get the idea of her being with other villains with morals.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
I will die on that hill.
And it's kinda depressing that the manga peaked in terms of villains right in the half of the 2nd act, and for the rest of the story we have... well not so good antagonist to fill the space left by Chisaki.
Fun trivia: In the character page for Nine in the Volume Rising, we can see in Horikoshi sketches that the palms of his hands were supposed to have the little holes that allow an AFO user to physically steal quirks.
Same holes All For One and Shigaraki have:
Yet, in the movie itself the holes are totally absent from Nine's hands despite his gloves are clearly designed with that specific function in mind.
I guess the production just totally missed that detail in the translation from Hori sketches?
Never read that story, but there's the movie "I Spit On Your Grave" which is basically glorification of revenge from a woman perspective. Or also arguably Shinobu story is also a revenge that the narrative puts in a good light, despite Shinobu has her problems.
Anyways I get the point you tried to make there.
Would be funny if all that bad marketing for U.A cause many parents to take their kids out of that school. Well at least if the parents are smarter in this AU than they're in canon (cause after so many assesination attemps how nobody question why they still send their childrens to a death trap?).
Mizunami would get hooked into Izu the first second he sees her, but a slow burn will be fun to read and see how the sexual tension between them growns.
He can totally take Compress, since he's not really anything special in terms in fight skills and as far we know he can't compress non solid objects, so a water user would ironically be a big problem especially since Cider is a medium to long range fighter. The fight would be quite easy to Muzunami, who will also hate the annoying "magician" act of Compress.
I really don't care about Momo, so whatever happens to her is fine for me.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
The public humiliation will always be more satisfying than just the kill, and for BK a hit to his ego is better than any physical wound (even if he deserves this too).
Plus if someone at Cider gang was recording the whole thing and they upload it to internet later imagine the public reaction after being the honored student from U.A getting his ass kicked in the grounds of the school, not only will be motive of laughs among the general audience and low the reputation of heroes among them, but it also will drive crusty boy crazy because he never thought on record his own attack.
You have to love Cider professionalism during the job, he's not like those incompetents dudes from the lov. He has standards
His mask is one of the coolest designs in the whole series, and it's very unique of him.
Even if I like his attractive face without it, the mask should stay during the job.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
Most likely yes, considering he already ruined the best villain he ever created who was Overhaul.
And even if Nine was present in the manga I can assure you Horikoshi would have used him as another cheap way to elevate crusty idiot, not any different of what happens in the movie.
Fun trivia: In the character page for Nine in the Volume Rising, we can see in Horikoshi sketches that the palms of his hands were supposed to have the little holes that allow an AFO user to physically steal quirks.
Same holes All For One and Shigaraki have:
Yet, in the movie itself the holes are totally absent from Nine's hands despite his gloves are clearly designed with that specific function in mind.
I guess the production just totally missed that detail in the translation from Hori sketches?
Fun trivia: In the character page for Nine in the Volume Rising, we can see in Horikoshi sketches that the palms of his hands were supposed to have the little holes that allow an AFO user to physically steal quirks.
Same holes All For One and Shigaraki have:
Yet, in the movie itself the holes are totally absent from Nine's hands despite his gloves are clearly designed with that specific function in mind.
I guess the production just totally missed that detail in the translation from Hori sketches?
Idk how the actual comparison was, and I remember it from some years ago.
But I can imagine Nine and Mewtwo are kind of similar on being created as bioweapons by some evil scientist dude and their more cartoony evil boss, yet both Nine and Mewtwo reveal themselves and want to persue their own ideals.
And the aesthetic similarities in their armor and powers based on purple lightning:
Note: The only version of Mewtwo I know is the one from the movie.
Lowkey think that Mewtwo and Nine would be friends if their meet, but they also would fight to see who is the strongest.
Any crossover between MHA and other franchise you like?
Hi @nyc3 funny you ask me this bc I was thinking about an au where Izumi is in a pokemon world. Srsly!
Izumi is a poke trainer, she has eevees and eeveelutions (I think it fits here. One Eevee can be anything just like Izumi)
And well Cinder menages to steal a gym becaming a gym leader (people like him better lol) and well, things happen.
On a broad side, I don't have much crossovers for mha. They work fine as they are...they just need a good writing.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
I guess AFO would be equivalent to that leader guy of the Team Rocket, always failing on get valuable and rare pokemons because of his dumbass goons (the lov).
And I remember seeing long ago a comparision between Nine and MewTwo, which let me thinking about how both characters would interact. It would be interesting for sure.
Geten being the third wheel in every universe is destiny it seems. Meanwhile his bro and Izu are happy doing their own thing.
Any crossover between MHA and other franchise you like?
Hi @nyc3 funny you ask me this bc I was thinking about an au where Izumi is in a pokemon world. Srsly!
Izumi is a poke trainer, she has eevees and eeveelutions (I think it fits here. One Eevee can be anything just like Izumi)
And well Cinder menages to steal a gym becaming a gym leader (people like him better lol) and well, things happen.
On a broad side, I don't have much crossovers for mha. They work fine as they are...they just need a good writing.
I didn't follow Pokemon in like 10 years, but is funny how always I see a MHA/Pokemon mashup Midoriya always have an Eevee, and I got the vibe people are going for with this pair.
On a related note, for MHA canon verse I wish the concept of animal manefesting quirks was more explored, because outside of Nezu who is functionally the same as a mutant, animals with quirks are a dope concept. Basically pokemons for that world!
Cider being Cider in every universe is a reason why I love him.
Any other character you like for this crossover? Since you know better than me about pokemon as franchise.
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Like everything else, good writing goes first but aside of that MHA for some reason works perfectly as a crossover sandbox. Heck I've never seen a franchise being used for so many crossovers like MHA.
Every franchise, character or concept you can imagine can fit in MHA like a glove. Maybe because the premise of "everything is a superpower and everyone has one" is so easy to adapt into other things.
Personally my fav crossover is MHA x KNY.
Any crossover between MHA and other franchise you like?
Hi @nyc3 funny you ask me this bc I was thinking about an au where Izumi is in a pokemon world. Srsly!
Izumi is a poke trainer, she has eevees and eeveelutions (I think it fits here. One Eevee can be anything just like Izumi)
And well Cinder menages to steal a gym becaming a gym leader (people like him better lol) and well, things happen.
On a broad side, I don't have much crossovers for mha. They work fine as they are...they just need a good writing.
I mean why not? At least with Bakugou being a descendant of Kudo you can at least make a believable connection between them, rather than just "The importance of Bakugou in AFO fight is based on the fact he looks like the guy who stole his brother a century ago" which is dumb af.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
I still find interesting how Nine not only looks like he got physical traits from both AFO and Yoichi, but his eyes especially look like a mix of both.
The grey/silver iris color of All For One, but with white pupils like Yoichi and that thick black circle around the iris.
All them have beautiful eyes, but Nine's are especially beautiful and haunting.
Perhaps the best eyes in all MHA.
Also you can't say Nine isn't somehow related to the Shigaraki bros... this can't be just a coincidence.
It was kind of a cheap explanation to justify the fact AFO and Yoichi look nothing alike. I mean even when non identical twins are far more common than identical ones, the nutrients thing still is a very dumb excuse.
Kudo not being Bakugou ancestor is another cheap attempt of plot twist or subvert expectations, just because Horikoshi can go with the whole "AFO is so mad at Kudo after 100 years that he projects his image in this random boy who looks like him". Is like a cheap imitation of the Yoriichi/Tanjiro dynamic with Muzan in Demon Slayer.
Funny how people call Nine to be emotionless, but he actually is a very passionate individual for his friends and ideals.
Shigaraki VA voiced Rui, a well written character I love. How ironic.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
I love how my two favorite secondary characters from MHA and JJK are saved and carried bride style by the m.c at some point.
Got a new favorite trope right there.
A lot of AFO backstory and motivations seem to be an after thought to be honest.
Hell I firmly believe he and Yoichi being twins is a retcon. Because these two clearly were originally written to be oldest and little sibling, AFO clearly looking way more old than Yoichi in terms of overall look and aptitude.
Beside is funny how based on his look at the moment of his death Yoichi must have been a middle age man, because AFO looks like his middle age self in the flashbacks. But Yoichi clearly look, sound and acts like a young man in his 20s or something. A lot of thing doesn't make sense if you put the twins idea in context.
And yes, KudoIchi and Kudo in general are just bait for the bkdk shippers. Notice how the character has nothing outside that ship content.
Which is ironic because out of all the vestiges which are plain and boring af, Kudo at least had an interesting base for a character but he ended with zero personality and being a dick to other characters no named Yoichi for no reason. And his fans only like him for being discount Bakugou.
At least got me laughing with that omake of Nine and Cider.
Also Shoto and Giyuu don't share VA, in japanese Shoto shares VA with Sabito aka Giyuu's best friend.
But fun trivia: Giyuu and Nine got the same dub VA in english.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
Oh yes don't get me wrong, I don't think in canon any part about Yoichi and AFO relationship has any positive side, is totally horrible and toxic but still love the dynamic as a villain motivation. And is funny how the feelings are not one sided as many of AFO detractors think, because Yoichi until his 2nd death as vestige acts like he always wanted AFO to came back to him and be saved somehow.
On a related note, KudoIchi shippers are so freaking annoying...
Nine is a gentleman... that's canon. He has standards unlike crusty kid.
Eh... I wouldn't say any character in DS is trying to be like Bakugou. There's many abrasive characters in that series, but they're far from being similar to Bakugou in any other trait or story role.
Idk why anime fans are so reductive to compare characters based only on archetypes.
Is like the people who compare Shoto and Giyuu Tomioka from DS just because they're the "emo guy" of the series, when outside of a very basic part of their personalities both characters are nothing alike.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
If you talk about deep comic lore about X-Men, then I don't really know.
While I love X-Men as a concept for a superhero group (probably my favorites on that sense) my only experience with them are the live action movies and some of the animated series. So I don't know that specific character you mention there, but there's other similar characters to Shigaraki with similar decay powers that are much better writen than him, for example Polka-Dot Man (from the James Gunn S.S movie at least).
I wish we could get more of the gay twincest between AFO and Yoichi, but well don't think Shonen Jump would allow HK to get away with that even if he wants.
Nine and Midoriya really are perfect foils for each other in canon. I wonder how your version will play out.
And one of the funniest part abot Bakugou fans is how obviously they're mostly new anime fans and Bakugou is super dope for them only because they don't know anything better. But the rest of the anitweet community always make fun of them because there's tons of characters that do the same as Bakugou but far better.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
The critique of "I like this quirk but not how is used" can apply to a lot of them.
But mainly AFO (the quirk) because the way Horikoshi writes it is the most lazy and uninspired thing ever. All for One and Shigaraki are such terrible users of the quirks and it's lame af.
Nine on the other hand is the perfect AFO user: skilled, smart, creative and badass despite only having 5 quirks max during his debut. And that's because the writer and director of the movie know better how handle a user of multiple powers than Horikoshi does.
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Cider also got such a sexy voice in the anime. His VA puts everything into those lines, despite they make the dialogue a bit softer than the manga (what a crime).
Your Izu is going to be blessed by hearing Cider trash talking about BK all the day. Funny how people usually thinks Bakugou has a big mouth, but his level of insults are on pair with a 10 years old kid. In fact a lot of people make fun of BK on Twitter/X because his fanboys think he could enter a roast competition with other anime characters, but dude would be bullied to death.
Cider? He's a street boy, he can roast you in ways Bakugou a rich kid without real world experience can only dream off.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of his mask as Stendhal I do like the outfit.
And how it looks way more clean, profesional and stylized, which marks a contrast with his later more savage look as Stain. Even Chizome's hair was silky and better stylized as Stendhal to reinforce the idea.
Random take but: Stain had the coolest and most insane boots design on his debut.
Like we should normalize black leather boots with a lot of metal and with small chains for laces, that looks cool as hell.
I would like Decay more if it never lose the initial range limitation that made it at least require some brain and flank the enemy to have the chance of instakill.
And that critique about Midoriya is dumb because you can say the same about almost every character.
Like who really isn't quirk reliant on this series aside of a few exceptions like Knuckle Duster or Giulio Gandini?
Even people like Aizawa and Stain who base their combat skill or support weapons are still quirk reliant to keep up with the more dangerous villains.
And yes, Cider is literally a smarter guy that out supposed main villain. Think about that level...
Is a shame Horikoshi only used him for glaze Bakugou and Todoroki or their hero debut, because realistically it's true that Cider was way more prepared and better equiped for a possible fight.
Yet HK really needed to give that moment to Shoto.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
I know!
And talk about a downgrade for the boots of his post war design:
Painful to watch :(
Even if like his new jacket the og boots are impossible to surpass. Wish he could have a design that mix the best of both worlds.
Random take but: Stain had the coolest and most insane boots design on his debut.
Like we should normalize black leather boots with a lot of metal and with small chains for laces, that looks cool as hell.
You can't take sexist Dabi away from me!
But seriously I love the idea for multiple reasons, one of them being that is a direct response to the whole "lov are sjw" that lov fans love to circlejerk just to make them look more noble compared to the "problematic" characters like Endeavor or Overhaul especially.
Just think on Dabi having to share space with Toga after that makes it extra hilarious.
And another important reason is because as you know I ship DabiTen a lot, but here's a thing: I like Geten being a trans boy.
So the consequences of Dabi being super sexist but at the same time Geten being sort of the love of his life are fun because it will drive him mad for clash with his own beliefs. I imagine a situation in which Dabi tries to have sex with Geten, but when he found what Geten haves under his clothes it left him in shock.
Ah the sweet drama.
For some reason I think this is Dabi's favorite book ever:
Hahahahaha hahahahaha
Listen @nyc3 I do love some good old joke "Dabi is a sexist" but in canon...we don't see much to proof that. He was rude to his mom and sis one time ? Sure. He was under a fucked up situation as he knew why he was born.
Plus when he wakes up from the coma, he wanted to see his mother and sister.
Funny jokes
But don't think dabi is a sexist.
How cinder enters the world of crime? I know this feels a simplistic question but it also can adds layers to world building. Like, say he was kicked out of the Himura household at 15...what he would do? Join a crime organization right away?
Assuming someone took him in. Did he wanted do crimes or was his only option?
I ask this bc...many Himuras we see are either in shitty situations or in crimes. Rei did endure a crime against her. Geten is an attack dog and Mizumi is the leader of a gang(benevolent as they all may be...it's still a gang)
And my final question (s)
How Cinder reacts to possum? See, possum wants destruction for the sake of destruction and anyone sane would say "fuck you" to that. Even if Cinder was a malicious and evil person...there was nothing to gain with Shig. (I HC many capable villains scoff and turn down working with LoV even if they are fans of Stain. Dabi is the best one and to this day I don't get why he joins LoV.)
Would Cinder and Nine be on good terms or enemies?
I mean, when you're kicked out of your house to survive in the streets isn't like you get many options.
My guess is that Mizunami started from the bottom working for some low tier gang before leave and form his own group, aka the Cider House gang.
For the moment I can't give a more fleshed out answer to that specific question, but considering Mizunami aptitude after the prison break we can assume he at least enjoys being free comit crimes as robbery as much he wants, despite having a more noble side by avoid harm civilians. Perhaps he got the habit with the years, don't know really.
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No villain with an IQ of more than 2 digits would find Shigaraki a worthy option to work with, and we know Cider is way to smart for that.
If you think about it, not even the MLA soldiers actually liked Shigaraki as their new leader. They were pretty much against it but stayed loyal only because Re-Destro (a bigger idiot) suddlenly became Shigaraki number 1 bootlicker.
Why Dabi joined lov? Because Horikoshi wanted his dumb villain group but didn’t even bother to write a believable reason for that.
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I would say Mizunami and Nine would be in neutral terms all things considered.
Cider would find Nine to be way more dangerous than Shigaraki, because unlike crusty boy Nine is man with strong convictions and capable to do way more damage. And also his ideology remind Mizunami to his brother Geten, which isn't q good signal.
But from Nine side I don't think he would mind Cider that much. As unlike Re-Destro who has a similar mindset and will kill you for not join his cause, Nine doesn't seem to mind of people following him or no, after all his ideal world is one in which the strongest rule but he doesn't harm the weaks just because he can (as he didn't kill the heroes he stealed quirks or Katsuma dad for example).h