Haha… yeah… that’d be crazy…
DID SOMEONE SAY PIRATE AU??? weLL BOY I HAVE SOME PIRATE AGATHA SKETCH FOR YALL
hot damn, a queen. we stan. She hab choppy hair, she cut it so it wouldnt bother her much and it somehow looks great on her.
ANOTHER ONE: Actor AU
Sophie can NOT, for the life of her, ACT. but her looks what made her big. Agatha was forced (she cool w/ it tho, has consent >:[[) to become sophie’s assistant. Tedros is an award winning actor, he great :33
Something happened which caused shortage of cast and immediately need of replacement (cuz no more time for auditions). Agatha was chosen cuz she fits the character. and she did GREAT. which kinda funny cuz--sophie cant act
I got this idea/concept from @pumpkinpaperweight ‘s fic ideas. (tho i didnt read the full post, sorry). They mentioned pirate agatha, and celeb au. :DD
Any tips for panel layout for pacing? I feel like yours really lends itself to the stories u tell.
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did that help
... i miss sge damn
Its been so long...
This is literally the funniest way to get introduced to a fandom, this being the very first thing you see
ARE U HAPPY. R U FUCKING HAPPY. LEAVE ME ALONE NOW
“Living weapon” covers a lot and all of it is hot
school for good this, school for evil that. where's my school for the morally grey?
Was thinking abt Tedros's talent and why he never had one in the books (thank Kate for making me wonder abt this stuff) and...it would've been really funny if Tedros has a Talent but no one knows he does because it has nothing to do with fighting or swordplay or being the future of Camelot.
Like his Talent being something like proficiency with musical instruments or singing. Talking to birds or other small creatures. Growing plants. Tedros being a disney princess would've been his peak character trait and also hilarious.
Ngl i also thought agatha was lesbian,, :0000c
Note: All of these are from different people!
Okay, so I’ve personally never seen any gay characteristics in Agatha?? Does goth = gay ? Maybe it was because Agatha was bullied and outcasted?
please reblog with “gay” traits that Agatha apparently has because that went completely over my head
Also since when did Soman Chainani make award-winning gay pride films?? I NEED TO SEE THEM NOW.
And girl… I feel so bad for you. Wait till you find out they’re sisters.
I do kind of understand the criticism of fat-shaming? But it didn’t really stand out to me. Soman was probably trying to throw in some satire/commentary, I don’t know.
First of all:
Tedros raised some red flags but it was rounded out by TLEA anyway so it wasn’t a problem for me.
Second:
WHERE DO PEOPLE KEEP INTERPRETING AGATHA AS A LESBIAN??
W H E R E.
Seriously, I have no idea, someone enlighten me.
Third:
The whole point was that Agatha changes her mindset and accepts herself. I shouldn’t even need to explain this part.
LMAOOO Fantasy Mean Girls.
I think the “changing motivations” issue was with the Coven, because first they made fun of Sophie, then helped her win Tedros over, and at the end they were on Agatha’s side. I don’t exactly remember the reasons why, but it made sense to me because 1. they were just trying to get Sophie out of Evil and 2. they understood the bigger picture of defeating Sophie.
This is so funny because I’m imagining this guy ranting and spitting in my face. He is Extremely Pressed. The rest of his review was something about stereotypes and wrong messages and confusion of the plot.
There were a lot of other… opprobrium that I didn’t include just because they went on and on for so long. Here were the points I found interesting:
Sophie is stupid, annoying character and Agatha should’ve left her when she had the chance.
I can 100% see why many readers would hate Sophie. But she was my favorite character and still is!
Agatha did a 180 on her personality. There was no good reason for her to date Tedros when she hated boys for a majority of the book.
I think that whole “Agatha blushes and gets nervous around Tedros” scene was unnecessary. And her hypocrisy killed me the first time I read SGE, but I knew that was the lesson Soman was going for. I wish she kept her witchy side though, Agatha’s character is getting worse and worse with every book (in the Camelot Years).
Someone said that it rubbed them the wrong way when the wolf captured Sophie, undressed her, then clothed her again? Something like that?
Was it the Beast in the Doom Room (who was supposed to punish and humiliate her… god I see the implication). PLUS, Sophie described Stefan with a wolf mask?? That is very… uh. Are they thinking what I’m thinking? Not to mention that Hort, known simp, is a man-wolf. Jesus.
This is not appropriate for ages 8 and up.
I agree with this. I’m pretty sure Soman forgot that they were 12 years old, because picturing CHILDREN in romantic relationships is uncomfortable, especially when they’re acting AT LEAST 16. The amount of dark themes are pretty surprising, but I’d read much darker books before so I didn’t care. If Soman simply aged them up (and made it even darker, though that’s a personal preference) parents wouldn’t feel so misled and angry.
All of this is solely up to my own preference. Yes, some parts may be messy because I am inexperienced. I don’t even know what a plot is. Here we go.
I didn’t have any major problem with Book 1 until Agatha’s Glow Up, so we’re starting there.
Canon: Agatha realizes she was beautiful all along and literally two minutes later Tedros falls in love with her.
However, I think it would’ve been so much more impactful if she simply changed her perspective on her “ugliness” from a negative light to an objective standpoint.
We already know that Agatha is badass, so I think she should view herself that way. Insecurity is nothing if she amounts her features to the raw human ability that they possess. Her frame is tall and skinny because she’s athletic, her big eyes serve her the purpose of seeing. Agatha may not be pretty, but every bone in her body was made so that she could eat, breathe, laugh, fight, do parkour around School for Evil.
It’s obvious that Ever Girls only care about their appearance because they want to impress boys (in School for Girls, they are shown as letting themselves go). Agatha is characterized as having no interest in boys, and therefore she doesn’t need to be pretty in the first place. Now, I know that princesses need a prince in order to have their fairytale, but Agatha already thinks that’s bullshit – why not go against it?
Also, this is extremely minor, but I’d rather have Agatha have some kind of deformity, like a cleft lip or crooked spine. It would really sell the idea that she was different. As a kid, even if Soman screamed in my face that Agatha was canonically ugly, I couldn’t imagine how she could be if the features she was described with were SO normal. Of course, her deformity remains throughout the book, because that is Not Cool if it’s magically removed.
I’ve said this before in my I Don’t Really Like Agatha post, and I’ll say it again. She is ungrateful for the opportunity she could have at School for Good. I’d literally kill to be there, I’d sit through every mind-numbing, subtly sexist class about smiling and posture just so I could practice magic, and I’m sure a lot of people think the same.
[edited: didn’t mean to sound so callous, it’s only an opinion]
Agatha isn’t even using this to expand her power. She uses her wish a total of 2 times in this book, and it’s not like she didn’t have time to use it. It’s disappointing.
So, imagine that Agatha just GRINDS in her school-work. Sure, she fails the challenges related to Strategic Blushing and Matching Outfits, but everything else she excels. At first she just didn’t want to be turned into a plant, she was only studying to survive. Now, it’s more than that.
Agatha is introduced as having a fondness for villains, and it’s apparent that beauty is irrelevant in their success stories. Although she is hurt when Sophie alludes to how she’d “fit in” with the immature, trigger-happy Nevers, she can apply those values of dismissing outer appearances while still being Good. It’s not as if Agatha is greedy or deceitful. She saves the Wish Fish, forgives Sophie countless times, and doesn’t do anything outright vicious. There’s no reason to question that she’s NOT a Never. She can be ugly and an Ever at the same time, wasn’t that the original message?
Hypothetically, she gains more knowledge and strength in spells and potions and such, and just like Sophie, even if everyone doubted her, she could rise through the ranks. There’s no point in worrying about your looks when you’re the most powerful girl in school. (Did I make Agatha too close to Evil? Maybe. But she doesn’t need to push people down to bring herself up, she’s just a natural like that.)
Also, if she needs a boy to ask her out to the Snow Ball, she 100% hates that. She could just talk to Dovey, are they really gonna fail the baddest bitch there?
No. They’re not.
Okay, here’s the biggest part that everyone will hate me for. No Tagatha. At least, not until TLEA.
When Agatha comes out of the Groom Room having just kickstarted her self-esteem and everyone’s drooling, Tedros is attracted to her instantly. I guess that’s fine. Reasonable. But consider this:
Agatha doesn’t love Tedros back.
When Tedros asks her out at the Circus of Talents, she declines. Because if she really knew her own worth, she wouldn’t say yes before making friends with him first. That’s only fair. Actually, I’d say a part of insecurity is settling for any guy who gives you attention (aka Tedros). Y'all are gonna hit me with the damning “We accept the love we think we deserve”.
EVEN IF SHE BELIEVES SHE DESERVES HIM NOW, IT DOESN’T MEAN SHE’LL JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO DATE HIM. THAT’S MESSED UP.
Okay, I know Sophie threw her bitch fit because Agatha was being a hypocrite and dating Tedros. So, tweak that and have Sophie throw a bitch fit simply because Tedros asked Agatha out in the first place. That still makes sense with her entitled selfish personality.
In the stupid war of Evers and Nevers, (which was like, strange considering they’re kids but they’ll have a similar conflict for the next two years), Tedros and Agatha are not together. You could throw in a bit of “Tedros wants to prove to Agatha he’s a hero” but for god’s sakes we are NOT putting in that little chauvinistic “how dare a princess question me”. That one line gave me a bad feeling about Tedros — foreshadowing for AWWP? And it’s crazy that Soman wrote that, along with his lack of brain cells. Are you trying to make readers bully him in memes and instagram group chats? Not from personal experience.
Oh, and this is more of a complaint. But, why did Soman make Sophie bald, pockmarked, and toothless in her transformation of embracing Evil? I thought this was about breaking stereotypes.
The Evil stigma that’s drilled in their heads about being pretty and in general taking care of yourself, is completely inane to me. I can’t believe that Sophie’s “trickery” of Tedros was so revolutionary. None of the Nevers, in 200 years, thought of that?
Instead of her beauty regressing, I’d actually want it to be heightened. It’s what set her apart from the Nevers the moment she walked in. It should be the icing on top of the cake. When Sophie is at her peak of power, she’s a princess. Who could kill you.
If you’re worried about reducing women to be pretty objects or seductresses, stop. It’s okay. Sophie has other powers like summoning ravens, wasps, locusts, bats, using her singing voice for torture, and she is skilled in curses and death traps. In short, the Hot Evil Lady trope works for her. (I think. Someone correct me.)
At the end of SGE, Agatha chooses Sophie over Tedros. Needless to say, Tedros feels betrayed. If you wanted to make him an idiot, with anger issues, daddy issues, and an inferiority complex, this is the easiest way out. He’s under the misguided impression that Agatha belongs with him simply because 1. He loves her. 2. He’s the prince of Camelot, damnit. Doesn’t that mean anything to you?
Not to mention that his father pressured him not to make the same mistake. And Tedros thinks that School for Good is his pool of suitors since Arthur married his classmate Guinevere? There is no line of logic in this man at all, did you miss the part where Guinevere cheats and runs away? Maybe Ever Girls isn’t the only place you should look! There are thousands of other girls in the Woods and you intend to find your soulmate at 14?? Goddamn.
In conclusion, Tedros’ hurt feelings continue to AWWP. Easy.
And if y’all gonna come for me about how Tedros is easily swayed by looks (he’s convinced that Sophie and Agatha are in the wrong schools for half the book) I’d want to make him a bit smarter. I know that’s impossible.
In canon, Tedros turns on Sophie because her true colors showed, and her witchy phase gives him that confirmation bias. He goes feral with testosterone and heroism, as we know.
I’d like him to understand that just because his solely physical attraction to Sophie grew when she’s evil and pretty, it doesn’t mean that she’s not any less dangerous. If Tedros, of all people, learns the difference between appearances vs reality, it would really drive the point home.
All right. You’re still here?
Here’s some extra headcanons you could add in here and here.
In the meantime I’ll think of more.
If there were any hard-hitting themes I was supposed to include, please tell me, I usually gloss over them while reading.
But anyway, thanks for reading this far.