Editing Part 5: The Structural Pass

Editing Part 5: The Structural Pass

Okay, by now you've nailed down how you want your plot, characters, and worldbuilding to be. If you haven't by now, it's a good time to format your document into manuscript format if you plan to move forward to publish in any form.

When it comes to structure, what you're really focusing on is readability. If the format of your book is a slog to get through, if your paragraphs are too long or your sentences are all the same. This will lose readers otherwise in love with your plot.

Dialogue

Dialogue heavy scenes are very fun to write, but pages of dialogue with no action can also be exhausting. Break up your dialogue heavy scenes with actions and descriptions. How does the character's body language reflect their feelings on the discussion? Can you give them a task (picking a lock, chopping onions) that allow you to add to the scene (fumbling when frustrated, dicing harder when angry)?

One mistake (that I've made plenty of times) is to have characters doing things for the sake of doing them. But this is an opportunity to add details that add to your plot (the normally awful cafeteria green beans are delicious, a clue to solving the murder!), character (an alien crewmember is trying to copy human expressions to seem more personable, but his many teeth just freak people out), and world-building and setting (Laura is ranting about her ex, but Tara is distracted by how soulless her rich mother's house seems).

Scene Lengths

Are your scenes running too long? Do they start in the wrong place? (Two paragraphs on making coffee instead of "She was making coffee when George burst in.") Tightening up your scenes will do a great deal to make your book better.

This is easy advice to give and harder to picture doing, I've found. Everything often feels essential to a scene. Try to tackle scenes with the following questions:

What is the point of the scene? (George tells Susan his wife left him for Keanu Reeves.)

Where does the action start? (When George burst through the door without knocking.)

What is the goal of the scene? (Susan starts to suspect George of murdering his wife.)

Where does the action end? (George leaves.)

Where should the scene end? - This answer depends entirely on what you need to happen next. Maybe you have another page and a half of Susan musing about her suspicions right there in the kitchen. But maybe this will be more impactful in the next scene, where Susan is snooping in the garden and happens to find something George's wife would never leave behind.

Varying Paragraphs and Sentences

Pull back and look at your pages. Are all the paragraphs the same length? Do you fall into using the same pattern of sentences over and over? (Guilty) Have you used the same word four times in a single paragraph to describe something? (Double guilty) Break those chunks up, what for those repeat words, and vary your sentences. This is going to help so much with issues you weren't aware of.

Chapters and Word Count

There are many ways to do chapters, but you want to keep an eye out for chapters that are going too long (giving your reader a visual break of a chapter ending can help shift the setting and tone) or too short (have you accomplished everything you need?) This is not a knock on either structure done on purpose - this is to catch something you may have overlooked.

When it comes to word count, industry standards are always a good baseline to go with. Your audience often approaches a genre with certain expectations, and while you can make a doorstopper of a romance, you will find more readers by sticking to the 80-100k range.

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2 years ago

I updated my taglist with links to the more noteworthy theories.*

*…that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re good. they just got a lot of notes.

Here’s are the links for mobile users:

Undertale:

A CHARActer Analysis (bring snacks)

Don’t GOAT Breaking My Heart

The Soul in the Machine

Where is Frisk Post-Pacifist?

Deltarune:

Meta

Kris, Frisk, and Chara are Nonbinary (and why it matters)

Weak Points

On Susie’s Very Cool Gender

Frisk-Kris Parallels

Ralsei Parallels 

Deltarune’s message isn’t that escapism is a bad thing 

Taking a Closer Look at “Tea Theory”

Deeplore:

A More Compassionate View: The Red Soul is Here to Help

Deltarune’s Timeline May Have Been Reset Before

Two Characters Control the Save/Load Screen

The Red Soul Turned Yellow and Saved Kris on its Own

Who is the Narrator Talking to When They Say “You”?

Things that Support Chara being the Narrator in Deltarune

Super Forbidden Acid Lake Dialogue I Intend to be Annoying About 

How to Hack the Susie Plush Into Your Game (pre-bug fix) 

Why There May Be More Types of Boss Monsters 

Kris Has a Trusting Nature (And May Trust Us) 

Let’s Talk about Papyrus! 

We Don’t Know Where Asriel Is 

Susie May Be from a Human Community

Ralsei’s Astral Projection Habit - It’s Not About Us. It’s About Susie.

Things that indicate Noelle may return to the Dark Worlds

Ralsei’s Prophecy has ties to Gaster

Taking a Meandering Look at the New Green Room

Kris and Susie may have been friends in the past (and had a falling out) 

What age was Kris adopted by the Dreemurrs?

Friendship Propaganda:

Kris and Susie

Kris Grew To Care About Susie (Chapter 1)

Kris Cares About Susie Outside of Our Influence (Chapter 2)

Kris May Have Considered Susie a Friend Before Chapter 1 (Halloween Pencil)

Kris Deliberately Gives Susie Space

Kris wasn’t afraid of Susie even before she joined the team

Kris wants to spend time with Susie

Susie is still a little insecure about her friendship with Kris

Susie might have wanted to be friends with Kris since before Chapter 1

Susie is putting a lot of effort into connecting with Kris

Kris and Susie are both choosing to be friends and there’s nothing we can do about it

Kris and Susie may have been friends in the past (and had a falling out)

Ralsei

Ralsei’s Not Afraid to Get Mad at Susie (which is good)

Susie’s friendship with Ralsei changed over Chapter 2

Kris Considers Ralsei a Friend

Noelle and Kris

Why Noelle values her friendship with Kris

Noelle is an incredible friend and reaches out to Kris constantly

Noelle has been saving Kris (on both routes)

Kris was likely sincere when they said they were friends with Noelle

Noelle and Kris are supportive of each other’s relationship with Susie

Both Kris and Noelle enjoy reconnecting

 Susie and Noelle

Noelle is NOT “Unhealthily Obsessed” with Susie (A Cranky Post)

The Susie and Noelle Friendship Propaganda Post

Noelle is genuinely interested in Susie as a person

Yes, there is evidence Susie has a crush on Noelle

Misc Warm Fuzzies

Alphys Might Be Trying to Look Out for Susie.

Things that indicate Undyne might bond with Susie

The Reason Kris Refuses to Give Spamton the Soul

 Susie Has the Biggest Heart on the Team

11 months ago

NEED HELP WRITING? (a masterlist)

I have likely not added many that I've reblogged to this list. Please feel free to roam my blog and/or ask/message me to add something you'd like to see on this list!

Synonym Lists

Look by @writers-potion

Descriptors

Voices by @saraswritingtipps

Show, Don't Tell by @lyralit

Tips & Tricks

5 Tips for Creating Intimidating Antagonists by @writingwithfolklore

How To (Realistically) Make a Habit of Writing by @byoldervine

Let's Talk About Misdirection by @deception-united

Tips to Improve Character Voice by @tanaor

Stephen King's Top 20 Rules for Writers posted by @toocoolformedschool

Fun Things to Add to a Fight Scene (Hand to Hand Edition) by @illarian-rambling

Questions I Ask My Beta Readers by @burntoutdaydreamer

Skip Google for Research by @s-n-arly

Breaking Writing Rules Right: Don't Write Direct Dialogue by @septemberercfawkes

Databases/Resources

International Clothing

Advice/Uplifting

Too Ashamed of Writing To Write by @writingquestionsanswered

"Said" is Beautiful by @blue-eyed-author


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2 years ago
Some Old Notes On Three-point Lighting 💡

Some old notes on three-point lighting 💡

2 years ago

Don’t GOAT Breaking my Heart: an Anti-Hate Meta for Toriel AND Asgore

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I’ve seen a lot of hate going around regarding the situation these two are in. Sometimes, in defense of one goat someone viciously bashes the other. It doesn’t have to be like that, though.

                                                       TORIEL

It seems like a lot of people are condemning her dislike of Asgore in their defense of him. But…I think we should try to understand her point of view too.

                              Why is she so mad at Asgore?

It is heavily implied the children he killed were her children, in the same way Frisk is. Maybe for years.

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It’s safe to say Toriel didn’t just nab these kids’ shoes and send them on their way. Some or most of them stayed long enough to need to new shoes and grow out of their old ones (or they’d still be wearing them when they left the Ruins) - a process that takes months or years depending on their age. Their old ones were put in the bin. They left, and died in their new ones. Rinse and repeat.

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Added to this is the photo frame in the children’s room. This frame is empty; if it were meant for her old family in New Home, it would still have them in it or not be there at all. It’s empty because the children, the humans who occupied the room before, in the picture died.

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They were not just children that were murdered; they were her children. The same way Frisk is.

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This isn’t just two exes disagreeing over policy; from her point of view, he killed six of her children (only one way into the underground, and that’s the hole in the ruins; Chara fell there too) and was starting on a seventh. It’s understandable that she can’t forgive him.

                           But did he kill the other 6 humans?

Unfortunately, yes.

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The humans made it to Asgore, but they didn’t make it past him.

It seems the other childrens’ items were lost along the way, and scattered over decades, not markers of the childrens’ graves; it’s mentioned that the “faded ribbon” was dropped down a hole. The other items likely met a similar fate; however, all the humans made it Asgore at the end. They did not make it past him.

                        Why did she take Chara when she left?

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She didn’t do it out of spite, but believed that they deserved a proper burial.

          Why didn’t she leave the barrier, and kill six people herself?

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Toriel never wanted that plan to go through.

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Toriel never wanted humans to be killed to break the barrier, even to free her kingdom. She would never have killed anyone to make it happen.

She didn’t call him out because she thought he should have left the barrier to kill more humans, she called him out because he gave everyone false hope and killed people; if four humans died and no others arrived then monsters would still be trapped forever, but the humans would still be dead.

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Even when she’s facing down someone who killed her children, she cannot allow someone to take his life. She didn’t just come here to save Frisk; she came to save Asgore. No lives could be taken to exit the barrier. The value of life was absolute.

                                                     ASGORE

…and I think we should try to understand Asgore’s plight as well.

                     He declared war in a moment of devastation.

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When Asgore declared war on humanity, he had just lost two children. He watched his son die from the wounds the humans inflicted on him, when he didn’t raise a finger to harm them. Humans who locked them in a hole to rot for thousands of years.

                          …and then couldn’t take it back.

The kingdom was in despair too; they had lost their prince, they lost their hope for reconciliation with the humans with Chara. He promised his entire kingdom he’d take the humans’ souls and free them.

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He saved his kingdom from despair, and by the time his own grief had settled it was too late to take his promise back. He couldn’t take away their hopes and dreams.

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He had a duty far beyond six souls of the humans - who doomed them to their situation and murdered his own son after he cared for one of their children - to the thousands of people in his own kingdom. It would have been justified for him to leave the barrier and kill six more humans after he got the first soul, right?

    Even after everything the humans did, he still valued their lives.

This is why he didn’t leave the barrier after getting the first soul.

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He couldn’t state outright that he didn’t want to kill them to the kingdom, and plunge them back into the horror of being trapped in the dark forever. But he still hoped to never kill another one, even after they kept coming. Even after the sixth. If he could avoid killing even one, he would. To this end, he even instructed his scientists to find any other way to break the barrier, without a single other person having to die.

For the record, here’s how he looks at Frisk when he sees the very last soul he needs to free his people from millennia of imprisonment that they never deserved:

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He takes two steps back and stares at Frisk in utter horror. There’s a long silence. He actually panicked when he saw Frisk.

            And how many times does he try to to spare your life?

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Translation: Please don’t come into the next room.

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“If not, I understand. I am not ready either.”

Translation: Please turn back.

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There’s still time.

And when he finally does fight you…

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He holds himself way, way back. He has the ability to one-shot you. He has the potential to not get a scratch on him from Frisk’s tiny LV 1 self. What’s going on here?

Because they are made of magic, monsters’ bodies are attuned to their SOUL. If a monster doesn’t want to fight, its defenses will weaken. And the crueler the intentions of our enemies, the more their attacks will hurt us.

This is how much he doesn’t want to fight you. Along with holding back his last attack, so you can only ever die if you’re already at 1 HP.

                       So why’d he destroy the mercy button?

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He doesn’t really want to win either. And in the event he loses, he doesn’t want mercy. If Flowey doesn’t show up…

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He dismisses his idea of living with Frisk peacefully as a fantasy, says Frisk and his other human child “have the same look of hope in your eyes”, thinks Frisk could be the Angel of the delta rune prophecy, and believes they can free everyone from outside the barrier. He then takes his own life.

                   He was not wrong to want to spare the humans.

Despite their souls being necessary to free everyone, It’s important to understand the stakes here. With each successive soul, he is not just looking down at the possibility of taking another child’s life when they show up. If he gets 7, he will no longer have an excuse to stay below ground. He will have to break it. He will then have to destroy the lives of billions to let his people on the surface.

                                        but if one shows up….

If a human shows up in his castle, it is because they want to leave. The confrontation is then inevitable, because they have to take his soul to do that. He never hunts them down. But if it comes to fight, he has a duty to fight and try to take their soul, for the entire kingdom. Their hopes are riding on him. So he killed them.

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…and the barrier really couldn’t have been be broken without 6 of them, and the souls of every monster underground except Napstablook.

I think it’s possible to appreciate the agonizing position Asgore was put in, as a person so gentle he couldn’t even painlessly take the lives of humans, who killed his son and trapped them underground, with the hopes of the entire kingdom, and the destruction of an entire species, resting on his shoulders to do it.

I think it’s also possible to appreciate the position of Toriel, who has lost several of her children to his hands, and can’t forget it or forgive it, but still believes he deserves mercy.

It’s no competition. Please love both of the goat parents. Neither are bad people and they’ve been through too much.

Bonus: Are they ever ever getting back together?

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 They are not ever ever getting back together.

…but he’s still smiling in the end, isn’t he?


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3 months ago

prompt 2591

Why didn't you just tell me that in the beginning?

I was afraid it would scare you off.


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2 years ago
TCF Chapter 685 In A Nutshell

TCF Chapter 685 in a nutshell

(Based on my TCF Summary Series)


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2 years ago

Do Kris’s friends know the real Kris?

Yes. And I’d argue they know Kris better than we do.

What little we know about Kris often comes because one of their friends makes an observation about what they’re doing or saying.

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Susie, Ralsei, and Noelle can see every face Kris makes and hear every word they say. We can’t. We only know when one of them points it out.

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Keep reading


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2 years ago

Just realised that Cale was the only "regular" human to ever notice Raon when he was invisible. Even back when Raon was first following him around.

Like, quite a few characters have noticed him throughout the novel, but Cale was able to figure out where Raon was located only using the skills he picked up as Kim Rok Soo.

Its pretty impressive and looking back on it, it could almost be considered foreshadowing.

2 months ago
I Don’t Know If Anyone Has Ever Done This Before But, Here Ya Go… The Different Types Of Fanfiction! 
I Don’t Know If Anyone Has Ever Done This Before But, Here Ya Go… The Different Types Of Fanfiction! 
I Don’t Know If Anyone Has Ever Done This Before But, Here Ya Go… The Different Types Of Fanfiction! 
I Don’t Know If Anyone Has Ever Done This Before But, Here Ya Go… The Different Types Of Fanfiction! 

I don’t know if anyone has ever done this before but, here ya go… The Different Types of Fanfiction! 

I probably left a few out, but these are the most common, compared to their base fiction’s canon plot. Enjoy! XD


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7 months ago

DSMP streams divided in months

these don't include every stream (not just cause they're wips) since some don't have a date. meaning those could not be added in these month playlists, but they are in these two. for some others i could try and guess

if you know the right dates, let me know

2020

april

may

june

july - [LORE]

august - [LORE]

september - [LORE]

october - [LORE]

november - [LORE]

december - [LORE]

2021

january - [LORE]

february - [LORE]

march - [LORE]

april - [LORE]

may - [LORE]

june - [LORE]

july - [LORE] (lore playlist doesn't exist yet)

august - [LORE]

september - [LORE]

october - [LORE] (no lore playlist yet)

november - [LORE]

december - [LORE]

2022

january - [LORE]

february - [LORE]

march - [LORE]

april - [LORE]

may - [LORE] (no playlists yet)

june - [LORE]

july - [LORE] (no playlists yet)

august - [LORE]

september - [LORE]

october - [LORE]

november - [LORE]

december - [LORE]

post finale

any stream from the month after the last lore stream, meaning the Syndicate finale in december 2022

right now, the title says 2023, but i know Eret and Sam have briefly joined the server in 2024. the title will change to fit the years, but i have to find them first

and that's it! if you use these playlists or send them to others, can i ask for a reblog so i know people are finding them useful?👉👈

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