as someone who was adopted i HATEEE the conversation surrounding the velaryon kids because i never felt like I really fit in (through no fault of my adoptive family, I just had issues after being shuttled around the foster system), I always felt like I wasn't as good as my mums "real" (biological) family, I never felt like I was truly her daughter, I was genuinely surprised to see i was given an equal share in her will as my sisters, the idea these kids aren't really laenors and not really rhaenys and corlys' family and have no right to family echoes so much of how I felt. and it's not even my own feelings anymore. People have been saying it for 2 years. I cant enjoy this fandom without seeing people questioning whether or not they should be considered part of the targ family.
and yeah I know its fiction but this series isn't made as an escape, its a commentary. which is why so much is based off current politics and historical conflicts. its made to reflect the real world. and all I see is my own feelings of inadequacy reflected.
(on anon because I don't want to be attacked by rabid TG fans)
It took me a while to organize my thoughts to answer and I still don't think this is a good enough answer
But I think this all comes from that believe that an adopted child can't be as loved as a biological one
That's why they think that Daemon hates the Velaryon boys or that Laenor's side of the family has no right to mourn Lucerys
Add a sprinkle of resentment to that mix because TG (who are the picture of a nuclear family) are constantly betraying each other, and TB (who are messy as fuck ngl) are a united front
And you have bastardphobia at its finest
The Velaryon boys are all amazing and very loved, so those who hate them can only use their parentage as justification for their hatred towards them, using bastard as an insult
They forget that this shit affects real people, that their "uh they are not a real family because they are not related 😵💫" affects real people who "unluckily" don't have a nuclear family with a biological mom and a biological dad
spoiler if you havent read f&b!!
looking at the stills of rhaena and joffery in the next ep, i know his death is going to break her, thats her baby too now 😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔
hotd was a mistake.
Fire and Blood:
Rhaenyra - Calls her half-brothers her half-brothers and her half-sister her sweet sister.
Alicent - “Mayhaps the whore will die in childbirth.”
Aegon - “I offered her an honorable peace, and the whore spat in my face.”
Aemond: “…or must we kneel and kiss the old whore’s cunny.” “The whore of Dragonstone, he means.” “The whore on Dragonstone is not the threat.”
House of the Dragon:
Rhaenyra- Refers to Aegon as Alicent’s son.
Aegon - Calls Rhaenyra the ‘bitch queen of bastards, the smug cunt of Dragonstone.’
Criston - Calls Rhaenyra a ‘spoiled cunt’ and a ‘spider who sucks her prey dry.’
But sure, the main conflict of the war doesn’t revolve around misogyny.
What i thought we'd get with alicent being Rhaenyra's age and "friend"":
An ambitious young woman who befriended the princess to be in the upper echelons of society and close to the crown/crown princess in order to manipulate her/be closer to viserys in order to manipulate his feelings before/after aemma in order to become queen and work hard and use the secrets/insecurities she discovered as the princess' best friend/lady in waiting against rhaenyra in order to have her son crowned king one day
What we got: a bland, boring 2D character with no agency or goals or ambitions who hides the fact her son his a rapist, who insists she's the victim of the story and chalks everything up to an unfortunate accident cause she's never done anything wrong ever and only ever been used by everyone in her life 🙄 (this is sarcasm i loathe show alicent more than any other asoiaf character)
He was a bookish boy and much preferred the library, where he could often be found. Books were his only passion. Vaegon was quiet and wary as a boy. Even as a child, Vaegon was not well-liked, something which did not change over time. When he had to speak he was often blunt, though never intentionally cruel: he always dutifully performed perfunctory courtesies, but no more.
vaegon... you will always be special to me!!
Fire and Blood:
Rhaenyra - Calls her half-brothers her half-brothers and her half-sister her sweet sister.
Alicent - “Mayhaps the whore will die in childbirth.”
Aegon - “I offered her an honorable peace, and the whore spat in my face.”
Aemond: “…or must we kneel and kiss the old whore’s cunny.” “The whore of Dragonstone, he means.” “The whore on Dragonstone is not the threat.”
House of the Dragon:
Rhaenyra- Refers to Aegon as Alicent’s son.
Aegon - Calls Rhaenyra the ‘bitch queen of bastards, the smug cunt of Dragonstone.’
Criston - Calls Rhaenyra a ‘spoiled cunt’ and a ‘spider who sucks her prey dry.’
But sure, the main conflict of the war doesn’t revolve around misogyny.
When will the fandom stop acting like Aegon is a little kid?
Did he wanted to become King? Not really, at least not before he was crowned. Yet, he accepted to be crowned and thus he also usurped his sister. He's partly responsible for the civil war that tears Westeros apart. He's not its biggest victim as some of his stans claim. Passively accepting to be crowned and remaining inactive when he could have handed his sister the crown and thus avoiding the war and the slaughter of innocents IS a choice of his.
Oh you hate bran? You think he’s boring? You think he’s whiny? Should we throw a party? Should we tell the old gods? Wanna go tell bloodraven?
lmao so GRRM's notablog post criticizing Ryan Condal's writing choices has apparently now been deleted. 💀 the girls are fightinggg
"I have no idea what Ryan has planned, if indeed he has planned anything." 💅