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I had this conversation with my friend about Margaret’s reaction to Gabi.
Basically, I think everyone else can all more easily accept/come to terms with and eventually forgive Gabi, for holding Sir captive. The reason for this is that, they all at one point were held captive and probably have had moments in which they thought, “I wish I could make my abductor feel the way I felt.”
But Margaret was never abducted. Her son was, and she has never received any sort of closure. She’s being held captive by the idea of information, hope, recognition, reunion, and/or closure.
So Margaret, as the mother of an abductee, despite knowing that sir probably deserved it and keeping him captive probably kept other safe from himz Despite that, she can’t forgive (just yet at least, she barely started therapy last season) Gabi because now there’s a big part of her mind who has put Gabi in the role of the person who abducted her son.
None of the others have ever been in the position that their loved ones were, while they were missing.
The reason Lacey’s mom (despite her being a psychopath, in my opinion 😅) can be so chill with Gabi, is because Gabi is the reason Lacey was able to escape. Gabi is the reason Lacey was able to laugh and open up again.
But Margaret doesn’t have any of that. Her son was abducted and Gabi is an abductor. She can’t compartmentalization while around Gabi and that’s why her “Margaret-vision” doesn’t work in Gabi’s presence.
Anyway, that’s my amateur psychoanalysis of the Margaret/Gabi dynamic.
Keep seeing people confused by Agatha letting the world believe she traded her son instead of telling the truth, but…kinda tracks, tbh. Not for the rational mind, of course. Not if you’re looking at it clearly.
Which Agatha isn’t.
She did the worst thing, in her mind. She fell asleep. She fell asleep, knowing Death had bookmarked her son for later, and when she woke, found him snatched out from under her. She failed him as his mother. She let go. And all the power in all the world wouldn’t be enough to bring him back.
So does the wildly grieving woman who has just lost her only child (to presumably her greatest love, but that’s a city-sized suitcase for another day) let herself go through the process of coping with and adapting to that grief? Fuck no! What is she, common?? She goes on a power bender! Even though the kid she prized in her heart of hearts seemed less than into that very thing! Even though that kid may have been able, given enough time, to convince her to stop! So now, not only did she fail him, but she also opted to speed race down Murder Road! For power! That she still won’t ever be able to use to get him back!
It gets muddled, after decades and centuries of this feeling. It grows teeth. In a way, she did trade him for power. In a way, she’ll always have that sitting on her chest. Never mind that it’s not true. Never mind that she wasn’t a bad mother at all (in this respect, anyway). Never mind that he was sick, and this was always coming. For Agatha, who has been stewing on this story she’s been telling herself for centuries, it is what happened. She traded her son. She did the unforgivable. She fell asleep.
i think we often get caught in the silliness of the show and forget how deep it actually is. yes it’s a stupid lil show about firefighters and their emergencies, but it’s also about a kind soldier with ptsd who doesn’t know how to love himself, but never once stopped trying, and a lost boy who became a lost man, but eventually found home and himself, and an alcoholic who’s still learning to forgive himself but doubles as a father figure to everyone around him, and a woman who lost everything, even her fiancé, but managed to build herself up from the ground, and a man who was forced to say goodbye to the one brother he had, but trusted himself enough to earn the life said brother would’ve wanted for him, and a woman who had to fight thrice as hard to become who she wanted to be, just because of who she was inside and out, and about a woman who was taught she didn’t matter, but believed in real love enough to try again. their stories are blended into the fun of it all. but they are bright enough to shine above.
Is it bad I want Gabbi to go with Hugh for a little bit to see how it plays out?
Will Ao3 writers please write more found fics cause there is so little fanfiction for this fandom.
I love his switch up so much. Especially Trents confusion.
AND THE CROWD GOES MILD❗❗❗ anyways
In regards to the bees per Tim
Two seconds into meeting his brother and I feel like he killed his mother and Hugh coverd it up. He instantly made my skin crawl.
Y'all what is wrong with me? Why do I want Found to go darker?
I want it to be Gabi wants Sir in her core, but she keeps denying it because it's so messed up. Sir wants to worship Gabi, and he's doing all this to get her attention.
I want Laci to have her own dark little secret?
Falsettos is my favorite musical and I've lost count of the times I've seen it, but for some reason it just hit me that when Marvin says "I left my kid, I left my wife, to be with you", it's a direct answer to Whizzer's "All your life you wanted men, and when you got it up to have them, who knew it would end your life?"
Because Whizzer is talking about AIDS. He's been an openly gay man for much longer, he's been with other men, and he knows how repressed Marvin was. So, he's commenting on how tragic it is that now that Marvin allowed himself to enjoy this, they'll both end up dead.
But Marvin knew he'd lose his life for this. He had a tight knit family, perfectly patriarchal, and he put it all on the line in the name of Whizzer's affections. And they're both stubborn and they're both drowning in toxic masculinity and so neither of them actually admitted this simple truth: Whizzer was afraid of loving Marvin because he thought all he wanted was sex.
It takes Whizzer's death for them to finally fix their greatest misunderstanding. Finally Whizzer says "I'm sorry it's over, now that you could have the sex you wanted", and Marvin replies "It wasn't the sex, it was you. I'd end my life again if it meant I could live with you. I did it before already".
And I'd like to believe that I'd do it again, and again, and again.
Ooooo can't wait to see how this plays out with ava cause she didn't look happy and now they are official
I love her knowing everyone to a tea to the point that she knows what they're gonna say
Kevin: Go home, Brother.
Chimney: *goes to the Lees*
Asta: General, Harry isn't right. He's heartbroken over his Avian girlfriend leaving him and can't work!
General: Say no more! I have a perfect solution!
General: *shows up at Harry's doorstep with an emu*
I post a lot about the ship but that's not even the worst thing that's not the thing that the show completely pissed on and hurt a lot of its viewers doing.
It's the ableism. It's Harry being turned into this antiquated disabled caricature solely to be laughed at. They know he's seen as autistic/nd. They all know, Alan especially knows and he has a large part in what Harry does says and is presented as given how much of Harry is improv.
Calling someone with Harry's traits a child just spits in the face of every real disabled/nd/autistic/etc person with said traits. Being so cruel to him for said traits is even worse. Watching the second half of s2 felt like a hatecrime and s3 is just a true blue sitcom out of the 80s. The act of making Harry like this in the first place for a joke is hurtful and so is the way he's treated in the show. The more disabled he became, the worse he was treated.Hitting him, calling him names/an animal, making fun of his voice/mannerisms/language, Asta's endless exhaustion rolling her eyes sighing on top of calling him a child when he does anything or tries to communicate, while she's supposed to be his friend. You're supposed to laugh at and think whatever he does is stupid, weird, wrong. If someone called him the r slur I'd be like yep that tracks for this show.
Season one made me feel seen, no one treated Harry like shit and if anyone was mean Asta would step in, people wouldn't make a huge deal out of his awkwardness it was just accepted, the humor of his failings felt like the writing was laugh with him instead of at him, we were meant to feel sympathy and closeness and believe in his better nature. There was SUCH a focus on being an outsider and feeling of not belonging, how that wasn't a bad thing and there were people who would accept you. The whole bond between him and Asta was about outsiders finding one another in a world that was cruel, but in Patience Harry could see the best in humanity and maybe not feel so alone. Breaks my absolute fucking heart that it's all gone, that people in the real world making this show said nope ableism and cruelty for our sitcom!
harry doodle page (this show makes me feel some type of way)
some close ups!!!!!!!!!!!!
More raptaurs! This time we got Tony Stark and Anakin Skywalker.
The last scene with Harry and Asta really shows how wholesome but fucked up this show can be at times.
ok promise i’ll shut up soon but now i’m thinking about how in Act 1 the only game we see marvin and whizzer play is chess, where marvin clearly excels and whizzer doesn’t seem to entirely know how to play. and you can tell whizzer’s insecure abt it because he knows marvin wants a smart guy and he doesn’t feel he lives up to his expectations, and they fight and break up because marvin can’t help but be petty because he wants a smart boyfriend but not one smarter than him and someone he can still win over and it just shows how petty and immature they both are in that act that they can’t get over their childish need to prove something to each other and it has to turn into a whole thing
but then in Act 2, the only game we see them play is racquetball, a game where whizzer clearly excels because he’s the more athletic one of the pair, but even though they banter a little over winning and losing, it’s lighthearted this time. marvin, who once said winning was everything to him, is able to admit defeat and still have a good time, and it’s one of the happier songs in the musical. and then even when they play the second time and marvin is winning because whizzer is obviously sick, marvin doesn’t gloat the way he once would’ve, it’s again just light hearted banter that only turns serious when something is wrong.
i just think it’s really nice to see their maturity and growth from act 1 to act 2, especially with marvin going from making them play chess because he knows he can win to letting them play a game that he knows whizzer is better at and still enjoying himself :)
My favorite thing that happened on OFMD Twitter today, possibly my favorite thing ever? When #HoistTheAds went live and the cast and crew came out of the woodwork to let us know they felt the love. Every other post on my timeline all day consisted of people aggregating and sharing cast posts from other platforms (mostly Instagram). Pirate Dad himself David Jenkins was taking the time to personally like every single one of the 1200+ comments on his post, just to show us he was seeing them and give back the love fans were giving.
Truly something else. If after everything, we don't succeed, at least now we know that they know how much we love them.
My man 😮💨.
Did anyone else notice on the reading list some of the books repeat? Did they run out of classic literature lol
Hugh had to have like read up on her before they met right? Cause he wouldn't just poison some kid for her from just knowing her for a couple hours. Imma just theorize he knew who her mom was and pulled some string behind the scenes to get her transferred so I like the scenes better.
Catsy Jones