Whispered: volume
Said softly: tone
I know adverbs are controversial, but "said softly" means something different than "whispered" and this is the hill I will die on.
Yeah, my boys in purple had issues long before Slaanesh was in the equation. Slaanesh was just an enabler who was more open about enabling their obsessions.
I find it really funny when ppl are like “ohh nooo slaanesh corrupted the emperors children and Fulgrim and now they’re on drugs”
Like the emperors children pre heresy weren’t obsessed with high performance and being the best to an unhealthy degree and also happened to have an unethical apothecary who is the craziest person in the galaxy…
I’m sure noooooooobody over there was ever tweaking out of their fucking mind beating their chest in the mirror repeating “I am greatest i am the king of the world” while practicing sword skills to perfection for 72 hours straight without sleep
There totally wasn’t “the wolf of Wall Street in space” going on over there
let’s be so for real considering the circumstances
There totally isn’t a history of militaries obsessed with perfection, aesthetics and high achievement using copious amounts of uppers and stimulants during battle and being basically coked out of their minds…. The very thing warhammer is meat to satirize
Sure yeeeeah, it was aaaaalll Slaanesh….
Juuuuust a thought 🫣
All I’m saying is all slaanesh did was spice things up
Had he not fallen, he would have been the best primarch. He was someone who cared about the common people of the Imperium, believing that each had the potential to do great things, if only they were given the chance. He conquered worlds through sheer charisma, not just military force.
It should be noted, however, that the Laer Blade wasn't the sole reason behind his fall, merely the tipping point. It latched onto his insecurities about needing to be good enough, and fed them until they consumed him. At the same time, the legion was being corrupted by similar insecurities--Bile's experimentation to integrate the Laer's stuff was done on Eidolon's orders, not Fulgrim's, and it's implied that Eidolon was actually going against Fulgrim's orders in doing so.
🥀 The Fall of Fulgrim
-I've yet to finish his books but I cannot fathom the wasted potential Fulgrim would've had if only he did not pick up that damn sword.
(art by me)
Still new in the warhammer fandom but I've been enjoying my time making primarch pieces
That's just an incentive to make comments like that.
Slaanesh is the god of obsession and excess, first and foremost.
What is a Space Marine most likely going to become obsessed with? Battle.
A whole chunk of the legion probably went the same route as Eidolon, doing whatever off-the-rails experiments on augmenting themselves to become better marksmen or swordsmen or whatever else (side note: sniper marines aren't done enough as a concept). They didn't do this because they were worse than the average marine from other legions, they did this because they wanted to be better than everyone around them.
Also, in Fulgrim, we see how Space Marines react to arousal in the Maraviglia. What do they do? They start killing the people around them.
The Flanderization of Slaanesh is one of the worst things to happen to the Emperor's Children's characterization. Slaanesh is not the god of sex.
everyone thinks EC are pushover stupid self absorbed weaklings and I think if that’s how you conceptualize us hust because we like partying and body modification and music and drugs. if you think we aren’t still the poets and artists and musicians and composers and so much more under all that. Fuck you. Genuinely fuck you. I hate you. We’re not stupid we’re not stupid perverts can you please take us fucking seriously
people need to realise that a poor little meow meow must be a character who has committed atrocities you cannot poor little meow meow a good guy that’s not how this works
It's a case of something I've actually seen in myself, where they're so set in their ways and beliefs that the idea of "someone", as in, a distant unknown figure, would disagree with them. Sure, they might know a person who does, but that's a *That Person* thing, they only do it because they're "weird". They see something they like, and to them of *course* it agrees with them, because to them, it has no reason not to.
They're like the Emperor. They're so sure that they're right that they can't comprehend some "sane, informed, and reasonable" person disagreeing with them.
So apparently on twitter there's a whole thing going on where anti-woke Warhammer fans performatively stormed out by declaring that they were going to play the horror-themed WWI wargame Trench Crusade instead, only to be mass-banned from its discord because the moderators didn't want a bunch of paleocon trolls stinking up the place.
The thing that blows my mind isn't just that they thought the thoroughly subversive Trench Crusade was positive Christian rep, but that they thought Warhammer 40,000 was. The setting where the messiah is explicitly dead and rotting and was an anti-religion crusader in life. Meanwhile Warhammer Fantasy's Sigmar is much more Thor than Jesus. A lot of conservative evangelicals and tradcaths seem to fall into liking straight up pagan gods if they have a sufficiently macho and traditionalist (western European) aesthetic.
Honestly, this is beyond media illiteracy, it's just straight-up blindness. Obliviousness beyond even the people who think Robocop and Starship Troopers are gung-ho pro-American action movies. Now I'm left to wonder how many fans of the Blasphemous game series are passionate reactionary Christians who get the happy feelings from the aesthetics and totally ignore the story and themes.
Still, I am glad to have learned about Trench Crusade through this, looks like a cool game. Aesthetic and themes kind of remind me of the Trench Foot/Countrycide mod for Doom (which, granted, started off as a Warhammer 40K mod...).
We also see the Eldar fighting Emperor's Children on the codex cover that was released.
The unexpected 3rd party will be, of course, Trazyn the Infinite.
Given Fulgrim's absolute OBSESSION with swords and especially those that come with weird gimmics and magics attached to them, how high are the chances that he has the final Eldaer Cronesword in his arsenal? The one supposedly inside Slaanesh's palace and utterly unreachable?
Will this be how the Ynnari will suddenly be relevant again? All because Fulgrim had negative impulse control and also annoyed Slaanesh for 10,000 years to get that one special sword they keep locked away for good reason as it involves their self-preservation?
As we are due for a Drukhari update this edition the story part of it might feature the Ynnari just to dunk on the Emperor's Children after their release (the same way Angron got dunked on in Arks of Omen after he had a chance to wreck shop).
Oh I can see it already: They showed off that new Warp Spiders Phoenix Lord lady - that one will get an story of breaching into the divine palace, and realizing "wait, THE SWORD IS NOT HERE?!" which then coincides with Fulgrim's return to realspace wielding that blade. The Ynnari see it is "all or nothing" now and pull their connections and strings in the Dark City, the Craftworlds, the Harequins, and of course the Ultramarines (this is still GW writing, so Rotate Girlboss is here as well) to just throw a giant force at Fulgrim.
As this is a typical 40k storyline an unexpected 3rd party will obviously gank that fight for their own gain and turn every plan upside down, but up until that point we have a pretty solid framework I'd say.
Broke: female Custodes are Tzeentchian infiltrators
Woke: female Custodes are not Tzeentchian infiltrators
Bespoke: the idea that female Custodes are Tzeentchian infiltrators is being spread as part of Tzeentch's latest scheme to spread discord and Chaos in the Imperium, to make people doubt the Emperor's most loyal and capable servants
Silly, bots are.
If you ever meet someone on the internet claiming they're from the USA, watch out because they're most likely an AI bot. nobody in the US can afford an internet connection (because they're so poor) and even if they could their schools are so underfunded they couldn't even know how to use the internet
I mean, the Chaos Gods do have "good" aspects, only they're a reflection of the galaxy and currently the galaxy is a real shitty place right now.
Personally I really like A Wolf In The Garden's portrayal of their good aspects.
Woke up from a nap, and I'm rotating Not Remotely Possible In Canon™️ warhammer ideas.
What if daemons could be "normal" somehow? I just randomly thought of chaos daemons doing good things that fit them, and it's probably gonna go on my long list of shit I wanna draw.
A bloodletter being a surgeon, and dedicating every drop spilled in the act of saving a life to khorne. Since he's honed his blade (the scalpel) he's known as the best surgeon in the world, making it high demand for him to do ANY surgery, no matter the risk. He has spilled more blood than any other daemon, despite not being on the battlefield often, and dedicated the skulls of organ donors with the highest respect in his own dark heart. Also GREAT advocate for patients, because he will threaten insurance companies and incompetent doctors with being a more traditional sacrifice to khorne. Using his rage to protect the health of his patients rather than destroy. He never gets stronger or any blessings from khorne due to his small but consistent sacrifices, but he does get praise from patients, and letters up until their deaths. He keeps track of the letters, and gives him a pat on the back when they stop at either a reasonable or surprisingly long number of years.
A Changer of Ways, that's a special ED teacher and tutor. Never once using the same way of education twice for each of his students. Manipulating fate to make sure his students get 100% for all their homework and tests. But he never let's his students cheat, always making sure they understand the material, even if they understand it at a different angle. All his students love and respect him more than any cultist he's worked with in the past, and he has entire tomes dedicated to his students art of him, with their pictures on one page and descriptions, his positive opinions, and various ramblings about the young artist on various other pages. When the mortal children reach adulthood, they are able to excel in whatever field they desire, even when their new teachers at college teach them differently than their beloved teacher Mr. Bird, because they merely study their own way and succeed no matter how their professors look at them. So many people say the children who become his students won't ever succeed in life for being "lazy" or physically unable to do their work. He teaches, not just for the love of the kids, but because he thinks it would be really fucking funny for these kids to succeed anyways.
A great unclean one whose a heretic, seeing past his warped view, and seeing how much mortals actually hate disease. While he doesn't understand why mortals don't want the grandfather's love, he actively finds different ways to share it, becoming an anthropologist to fully understand mankind. He runs experiments every now and again, to see what mortals truly willingly receive, and what they give into because of having no other choice. He spent years growing various types of fungus in random places to gauge and write down mortal reactions. Do they collect it to eat? Do they just kick it away in disgust, or with glee? Do they avoid it at all costs? Do they destroy it? It narrows down the species of mushrooms drastically, limiting the "love" he can show through decay, but at least the mortals are feeling the love now. He studies the reactions of humans during plagues caused by his brothers, and starts smaller epidemics of his own, being extremely controlled with how he infects his subjects. He learns while mortals technically NEED plagues, they don't want them all the time, so he starts epidemics in moderation. Making weaker brights and pox to study over the next several weeks, accidentally making mortals more resilient against plagues, which is something they WANT. While all daemons of nurgle "love" all life, this one Unclean One truly loves humanity, and loves them how they need.
A group of daemonettes who work in rehab to try and get mortals to overdo it, only to take great satisfaction in actually helping. They're the only ones who actually do the job right, and treat the people there as people. I could see them in the hospital with the bloodletter, under silent truce of "You don't fuck with MY job, or MY patients, we're fine." They relish in the torment silently whenever their patients are freaking out from withdrawals, then bask in the praise when their patients make a full recovery. They give "false comfort" to their patients when in reality its more comforting than an actual doctor or therapist, because they ironically don't demonize the addicts, since they themselves 100% have had worse.
Maybe he could also get into farming, making plagues to invasive insects so farmers don't need pesticides, or he could help food rot faster to make fertilizer. Hell, he could make his own manure, watching what he eats and doing that one attack on a field to spread it around.
Or maybe instead of working in rehab, they could clean houses for free, restoring the simple luxuries, before giving their clients excessive gifts to keep them on their feet. Food in their clean fridges, expensive shampoos and cleaning products, beautiful decorations, and whatever else their client needs. Hell, maybe these could be daemonette groups that work together, restoring the homes of ex-addicts so they have some place more than just livable to return to.
It's fun thinking of chaos daemons doing "good" on purpose, both in the sense they would never logically do that, but also the stank eyes they would probably get from more traditional daemons.
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