Paul (he/him) & Kleytos (he/him). We're so new into daemonism and witchcraft, so... Give us a chance.
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Dæmonism is just the advanced form of when you'd imagine an animal running alongside the car as a kid.
Ok imagine,
Love, Simon... but instead of emails you play minecraft together.
Thank you
Once I change, you’ll stop changing. What do you think you’ll be? A flea, I hope.
PANTALAIMON + favorite forms (S1-S2)
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*All the respect, of course. No offense is meant to anyone. This was just me pondering how daemons might work in various religious traditions, completely fictional*
During Catholic masses, daemons tend to be quiet and respectful. They are careful not to make too much movement, too many sounds, or draw too much attention to themselves. Some daemons that are small enough prefer to stay ON their person, while others remain next to them. Larger daemons often rest on the outsides of the pews, while bird daemons will perch above.
Muslim daemons pray salah with their humans. They receive their own separate prayer mats. No matter their form, as best as they can muster, they will perform prostration and bow in the direction of the Kaaba.
Angels don’t have daemons, but jinn do.
A daemon knows as much Quran as their respective human. If the human is a Hafiz, the daemon is also considered one by both humans and daemons.
During kirtan in various traditions, daemons will sing alongside their humans, rather than staying silent. This is a contrast to some mass services, where only some daemons may choose to speak during the expected portions. More ecstatic forms of worship such as those found in Evangelical traditions also hold a significant amount of daemon vocality/activity within them.
There are some daemon form symbolisms that tend to carry on in each individual tradition. In Christianity, snake daemons may often invoke feelings of anxiety/apprehension in others. In Judaism and Islam, pigs may also be considered in the same way. Not as inherently “negative”, but connected to more stereotypes. Similarly, positive animals may be seen more favorably. For example, doves and lions in Christianity and cats in Islam.
In Hinduism, it is especially auspicious if you have certain daemons that are associated with one’s respective deity. For example, Calfs/cows for Krishna. There are numerous holidays revolving around the celebration of ones daemon. Just as humans have coming of age rituals, the daemons parents will often also celebrate the daemons respective rituals if they are involved.
Although daemon settling can happen at any point through ones teenage years, it is often expected for Jewish boys and girls to settle around their bar and bat mitzvah. It may not always happen, but there is an association between them. The same can be said for Confirmation, which often happens during high school.
There is no consensus on Jesus’ daemon (or Mary’s). Different scripture in the New Testament remembers his daemon differently. A lion, a pelican, a dove, a lamb. It could be, perhaps, that his daemon never settled at all. In Islam, all prophets are thought to have had never settling daemons, a reflection of their protection from sin and failure by Allah (swt).
There ARE cases of daemons differing in religious opinions than their human. The two are not always in sync with one another, and can feel differently. This is often a reflection of the persons own internal struggle.
will eventually have more, just had what was off the top of my head.
And most importantly I fight like a girl who has nothing to lose.
Duh... I made a wallpaper of Kleytos and me and... We really like it. (The first one is the original).
Within the daemon community you will discover that there are many ways people communicate and co-exist with their daemon. How these same individuals found their “brain buddy” is just as unique. Some may have created with intent or gave an identity to their internal dialogue, and others reached out into the void seeing what came forward, while some daemons have been there as long as they can remember or spontaneously came into their life. Before you begin, I would like you to leave behind your doubt. I know, I know, easier said than done. But keep in mind when reaching out to a daemon doubting yourself and your intuition will only hinder their progress and cause you unneeded stress.
Before you delve into daemonism stop and think about what you expect from this new relationship. Is it companionship, self-improvement, someone to keep you on track, or any other unlimited number of things? Is there a specific job or role you have in mind? If you don’t know or feel unsure about assigning a role, they luckily do not need a purpose to be a daemon so please enjoy the experience and worry less about the “should and should not"s of the practice. Keep in mind you may find your daemon has other plans or expectations for the relationship. They may feel what is best for you is addressing issues you may be avoiding or repressing, or they could be harsher than you had wished, or say things that can hurt. Those instances are extremely rare and far more often than not a daemon is going to work perfectly in sync with you, be kind, supportive, and our defender against negative and intrusive thoughts. If you find when you reach out to your daemon they cause any kind of negativity pause and think about if there is something you are upset with or need to work on. Is this something you can do alone or is your daemon exactly what you’ve been needing to get through it? Daemonism is about building a relationship with yourself, and while some relationships are a piece of cake others require work and are far more complex than we were expecting.
The exercise below will be focused on reaching into the void to find your daemon. This may be quick or take quite a few tries so don’t beat yourself up if it doesn’t go as you hoped. Experience in similar concepts or what an individual is comfortable with will greatly influence how easily someone may reach out to their daemon for the first time. Are you use to talking to yourself? Daydreaming? Are you more visual, verbal, or emotion driven? You know your brain better than anyone else so I recommend starting with a process that sounds familiar to you. I will also be referring to your daemon in this exercise as a single entity but you may find as you reach out you could have more than one. I recommend the standard duo pair of human and daemon as it is much easier to build your skills with a single target. This is only a recommendation, and not a rule, as I would never dream of driving a hopeful daemon away.
No matter if you believe daemons to be spiritual, mental constructs, a combination of the two, or external beings you can utilize this exercise. If these do not work for you or are uncomfortable feel free to change and adapt the method to meet your needs. If after a while you are still struggling to make a connection please seek out other methods people have used within the community. Like creating a template for their daemon’s form and personality that will change and adapt as the daemon grows. Those may connect better with you and that’s okay!
If you have stumbled upon daemonism for the first time there are many good references out there to clarify exactly what a daemon is. Here are a couple sources.
https://daemonsandanalyses.tumblr.com/daemons
https://ofthoughtformsanddaemons.tumblr.com/post/187624346048/daemonism
https://ofthoughtformsanddaemons.tumblr.com/post/159859058403/spiritual-daemonism
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a dæmon that’s always asleep
a human and their dæmon always needing to touch somehow, even if it’s not convenient
a human and their dæmon that never touch, unless they absolutely have to
a dæmon that never speaks, even to their partner
conversely, a dæmon that never stops speaking
a human and their dæmon constantly fighting
a dæmon that can’t ever sit still
a dæmon that just can’t muster the energy to move
a dæmon that keeps hurting their human (and vice versa), even when they don’t mean to
a dæmon that’s always criticizing their partner
a dæmon that constantly switches spontaneously between hyperactive and lethargic
a dæmon that’s always hiding, even when they’re around people they trust
I absolutely love the concept of having a hdm!daemon but honestly? The one thing I can’t agree with is the taboo of daemon touching. It would simply be too much of a problem in society.
It would be extremely hard not to touch a daemon in areas where there are lots of people and little space. People bump into each other all the time on the street, in hallways, in trains and subways, etc. In Japan, people value personal a lot, and yet even there people squish together in trains or run into each other while crossing the street. If touching a daemon was the equivalent of rape, rape rates would go up drastically. Not to mention, big daemons would have an especially hard time because of all of the space they take up. What if you and your daemon have a big family but live in a small house? Even worse, what if all your family members have big daemons? You could argue that you could just move to a bigger house, but what if you can’t afford it?
Also, what happens if you trip or faint and accidentally touch a daemon? What if you and your daemon need to be carried to safety, but no daemon is big enough to carry yours away? What, you and them would just be left to die?
I think that if daemons did exist, an unwanted touch would simply feel uncomfortable but not traumatizing (unless the intention was bad). If daemons are your soul, your “true self”, then I suppose it would sort of feel like someone learning something deeply personal about you. Depending on how open you are or what culture you’re from, it can be either seen as rude and intrusive or normal and not a big deal. Accidental touching would be pretty normal, and while most people would dislike it, others wouldn’t care much. People touching your daemon to remove them from a dangerous situation would also be normal and expected, even if most would find it uncomfortable. I also think that it would be somewhat normal for family members and close friends to touch your daemon, although there would be exceptions.
A random thought: I feel like me and Theet display more physical affection towards each other day to day now than we would if he were corporeal, cause if he were corporeal we would be more concerned about giving off a more stoic and cool appearance.
posting this here so it can leave my mind
hey. guess what?
you’re so close to surviving 2020
keep going
i’m so proud of you
John Parry: you can't see your daemon in my world
Me: may I introduce you to a concept called projection
One of my biggest pet peeves in the dæmon community is the characterization of prey animals as being gentle/good, and predator animals being mean/bad. This is not an everybody-does-this kind of thing, by the way, but it crops up sometimes. It’s an easy trap to fall into (heck, I’ve done it before), and this isn’t an accusation towards people who personality-type this way. This is mostly to help A) newer or confused dæmons, B) start a discussion, and C) let me rant.
I think one of the largest hurdles when dealing with characterizing predator dæmons is working through what it means for a dæmon to be carnivorous. To best do this, let’s look at why some animals evolved to eat meat rather than plant matter. In the simplest terms, meat, and especially organ meat, are incredibly nutrient-rich compared to pretty much all plant matter. Herbivores spend the vast majority of their days foraging for food, eating that food, and then repeating the process. If you’ve ever had a pet like a goat, cow, or horse, you know how long they’ll spend grazing, if you let them. While herbivores expend comparatively little effort meeting their nutritional requirements, the payoff is also relatively low; that’s why they’re forced to spend so much time eating. Consider, then, that while herbivores trend towards low risk—low reward, carnivores trend towards moderate/high risk—high reward. When examined in this way, it’s easier to see that predatory/carnivorous dæmons are people who work based on efficiency above all else. While I noted the possibility of “high risk”, what carnivorous animals really want is to put in the least amount of effort for the highest amount of payoff. This is why they frequently target the old, the young, the sick, the weak, and the slow; if a carnivorous animal can avoid putting in excess effort, they will. Also, fun fact! Most herbivorous animals can and will eat meat if it is made available to them. They might not be able to eat much of it, but they can digest at least a little bit. It’s actually quite common for herbivores to eat meat (birds, rodents, frogs, lizards, even carrion), so if you want to put some kind of moral judgment dæmon-wise on carnivores because they eat other animals, it’s going to have to extend it to herbivores, too.
When it comes to profiling dæmons, I understand that a certain amount of anthropomorphizing animals is required to do so accurately. However, I think sometimes people in the dæmon community take this to the extreme. I do get it—when you’re anthropomorphizing one animal, you’re obviously going to anthropomorphize them all, so the circle of life previously untethered from morality comes out a little more murder-y. Here’s the thing though: there is no such thing as sadism in the animal kingdom. The closest thing I can think of is animals that envenomate their prey and then follow them until they die so they can eat them (like Komodo dragons), but even in those cases this is, again, a case of a predator using the lowest risk action to gain the highest reward. And like, I do get it. Animals dying is sad! It’s violent, and brutal, and often extremely bloody! We all feel bad for Bambi, but that isn’t very helpful when it comes to dæmon profiling.
I frequently see predators characterized as vicious, when what they actually are is vulnerable. Predators aren’t competitive over territory and breeding rights because it’s fun, they’re competitive because if they lose their territory they will likely die. Without a safe area for them to live and hunt, they will probably starve or be killed, so when predators act aggressively towards other animals or people, they’re usually doing so out of desperation. Predators in particular have to be extremely careful about what fights they pick; as a general rule, they want to avoid conflict. Serious injuries are a death sentence to predators in a way that they aren’t even to prey animals, because predators are on a ticking clock to heal fast enough that they can hunt again, or they’ll starve to death. If a lynx were to somehow break its leg, that’s it, that animal’s life is over, so if a predator is willing to actually fight over a resource, they’re doing so because they have no other choice. The general list of what predatory animals will fight over can usually be summed up as follows: breeding rights, cubs/babies (if they have them), food, territory. These are the essentials of the animal kingdom, so to speak. To put this into perspective for why this list matters in regard to dæmons, people with predator dæmons will not be constantly aggressive, or evil, or cruel. For the most part, predator dæmons are very conflict-adverse, and will only involve themselves if said conflict directly affects them and/or something that holds an extremely high value for them.
Now, that being said, most predators are also opportunists. A pack of wolves will go after a human like they would a deer because humans are, generally speaking, relatively easy to kill. While we may attach a moralistic perspective on that killing because as humans, we relate to said prey, these hypothetical wolves are just trying to meet their needs in the way that is the least strenuous and least likely to result in them being injured. This is a characteristic which often gets labeled selfishness—which I’m not denying that it can be—but which I think might be better labeled as individualism. I’ve seen people describing carnivorous dæmons as taking care of themselves at the expense of others, but often times what they’re referring to is an anthropomorphized approach to carnivorous behavior. I personally think this is a bit lazy and doesn’t get at the heart of what predator dæmons are like, because predator dæmons do invest in themselves above others (especially for animals that are lone hunters), but it isn’t because they kill other animals; it’s because, as I mentioned before, they’re inherently vulnerable. I’ve seen people refer to predator’s natural prey drive (such as tigers in zoos stalking patrons, or wolves overkilling livestock) as a sign that people with predatory dæmons are constantly looking to fuck someone else over, but the reality is that predatory animals (and therefore dæmons) are simply extremely aware of how vulnerable they are, and will take every occasion to meet their own needs, especially if that can happen without them needing to put themselves at risk.
So how do we translate this into dæmonism? Mostly with a lot of generalizations and patience. Generally speaking, carnivorous/predatory dæmons are conflict-averse, efficiency-based, need/interest-focused people. Despite the aggression stereotype, most predator dæmons just want to be left alone, and will likely only engage if they feel like or someone/something extremely important to them is being threatened (this is slightly less true for animal forms that are group hunters, as they have a wider support network to fall back on and can manage more risky behavior). Predators are also efficient animals, and dæmons of the same kind will reflect that. This means that people with predator dæmons won’t usually be inclined to expend effort unless they’re actively gaining something of high value from it. This doesn’t mean that people with predator dæmons can’t be active, it just means they aren’t likely to take on a challenge without a sufficient reward waiting for them at the end. Predators dæmons are also going to be need/interested-focused, which I tend to translate into predator dæmons having a few categories of things that are actively important to them; it might be their career, their family, their hobby, whatever. These categories tend to overlap, and become the main concerns for people with predator dæmons’ happiness. Everything outside of those specific concerns don’t matter overly much to people with predator dæmons. If something doesn’t directly affect a person with a predator dæmon, they probably don’t care. This is where the selfish characterization comes in, and while it isn’t wrong, I think it lacks the awareness that the downside to this blasé attitude predator dæmons carry towards things outside their interest is that, should that person lose any of the things they consider vital to their own life, they will experience a huge amount of upheaval and distress. This is what makes them vulnerable. A lion needs to eat, you know? And if a predator dæmon can’t feed themselves (metaphorically speaking), they’ll waste away. These three traits (conflict-aversity, efficiency, need/interest-focus) all tie into one another, and present a person who will likely only take on challenges in their own life if they can either do so without significant risk to their personal comfort, or see the potential reward as worth significant possible loss. So, it’s a somewhat contradictory personality that stems from wanting the best for the lowest price.
Just some disclaimers, since anyone who’s read this far deserves them! Not all predator dæmons are going to meet this personality type exactly. Predators higher on the food chain, and predators that hunt in groups are going to be more prone to risky behavior than lone hunters, and predators lower on the food chain, generally speaking. There are also outliers, as with any broad category (fisher cats have successfully killed lynxes, those little bastards do not fuck around). A lot of omnivores also get stuck in the carnivore/predator category, when they can, but don’t always follow the same personality type (some bears do, like black bears, but not all). So, while I hope this essay/rant helps people, I also hope that anyone who reads this understands that personality-typing dæmons is complex, so if you feel like this doesn’t apply to a form, don’t worry about it. Or, hey, reply to this and let me know. If anyone thinks I’m completely wrong, I’d also be curious about your take on predator/carnivorous dæmons.
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Do you have any tips or tricks or advice in general on how to be more in touch with your Daemon?
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Hello again flower anon! I had never really thought about it before, but here are some that come to mind. Always make time to have a real conversation with your dæmon at least once a day. I know it can get busy but its important not just to chat a little but to really talk to one another. Also try to do something fun with just your dæmon that they will enjoy so you can spend alone time together. Maybe not every day, but at least once a week. Lastly, try and touch them. I figure most people touch their dæmons pretty frequently but I still think its important to stroke their head or play with their ears and such in a way they will find comforting (you probably will too!).
I hope these help, does anyone else on here have some tips?
daemons | EURASIAN OTTER
individuals with eurasian otter daemons tend to be introverts. they are resourceful, risk takers, inquisitive, and playful. they value privacy, freedom of thought, and opportunities.
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In honor of His Dark Materials coming out today/tomorrow, and finding out that the writers were playing DnD during production, here are my home brew rules for adding Daemons to a campaign for 5th Edition DnD.
(Feedback is welcome but this is my first home brew so please be gentle)
curling up for an afternoon nap with your dæmon on your face to block the light
going for an early morning jog with your dæmon trailing behind, complaining about the early hour (or running ahead shouting encouragement)
arguing with your dæmon over ingredients in a new recipe (and they’re right, of course)
your and your best friend’s dæmons wrestling in the mud on a rainy day
your dæmon helping with chores around the house
you and your dæmon worrying over your new haircut on the way to school/work
“There’s no class today because they have dollar hot dogs in the cafeteria and I’m not giving that up.”
“I brought you guys coffee to cry in because it was cheaper than tissues.”
“I chained myself to a cattle guard last night and now my arms are sore.”
“Once upon a time Oceania was happy and then Europeans showed up and ruined everything.”
“… If the whole class wants to go drinking I’ll cancel class.”
“So I know I told you all to go to a restaurant to speak Hawaiian to the waitress there who also speaks it, what I didn’t tell you is that she got sick and wasn’t there last night so now there’s a very confused restaurant emailing me.”
“Good morning, my husband got arrested last night so I’ll be taking over his class for today. We’re gonna learn a song about numbers!”
“I have a court hearing tomorrow and I’ll let y’all know if it was a bitch of a trial or not.”
“Class is postponed because I have to drag my mother off a mountain.”
“Attendance is mandatory but if anyone jets off to Mauna Kea let me know because I wanna go too.”
“I think I broke my ass in the shower last night.”
“We’re gonna make fire and then we’re gonna burn down the white house!”
“The computer broke so I panicked and called the whole department to come fix it.” “That’s 22 people.” “I’m aware.”
“I got approved for my PhD but now that means I actually have to try and get my PhD.”
expectation: im gonna use this candle to heat up this moon water with the herbs i need to help keep intrusive thoughts and bad energy away from me
reality: *rubbing quartz on my forehead and temples, visualizing my brain* alright so listen up fucker i dont need your negativity, so cut the shit
when your teammate who is also your boyfriend is also a witch
go to the forest together and collect cool things for spells. kiss him under the tallest trees and tell him he’s the most magical thing in there
Some concepts:
Boys who teach their non-witch boyfriends about witchcraft
Boys who aren’t witches but still get excited everytime their witch bf talks about witchcraft
Boys who become witches together and practise everything with each other
Boys buying each other witchcraft supplies and drawing sigils on them
Boys making personal sigils for each other
Witch boys supporting each other’s craft and practising together to grow as individuals
i was having a good time watching his dark materials but then i remembered
Pantalaimon: Lyra, help Will fight the angry lad with the knife!!!
Will: …Pan, YOU CAN SHAPESHIFT. Turn into something OTHER than a red panda! Turn into a wolverine again! Maul him!!! HELP ME!!!
Pantalaimon: Again, dæmon. You can’t maul humans when you’re a dæmon.
Pantalaimon: I mean, all you can do is give them a very meaningful look.
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