A lot of people are talking about Ivan's hypocrisy with Sua and how he berates her for sacrificing herself for Mizi and becoming a source of trauma for her and then he did the same thing, but there's a heartbreaking perspective on this.
Sua and Mizi loved each other. The love was reciprocal. Sua died KNOWING Mizi loved her. Ivan's dislike of her comes from the fact that she knew damn well what her death would do to the person who loved her and she did it anyway. She KNOWINGLY hurt Mizi in the worst way possible while still claiming to love her.
Ivan? Ivan's been drilled for YEARS that Till DOESN'T love him. His love isn't returned. It's very possible that he just believes that he won't be a source of trauma for Till, because Till doesn't love him. So he can die for him all he wants. Of course, the elephant in the room is that we no longer know what Till thinks of Ivan after he kissed him and sacrificed himself for him, but that's AFTER Ivan is already dead. He had no intentions or expectations that what he did would actually hurt Till. And there is something so unbelievably sad about that.
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One thing I love about orv is that it initially bait and switches you by convincing you early on that the constellations are the "big bad" of the story - voyeuristic beings that gain enjoyment off the suffering of others - until the reveal that they are also going through their own scenarios. This mirrors how us as the readers are going through our own lives and our own struggles yet we consume media highlighting the experiences of others. We root for these characters, we follow their journeys, we see ourselves in them. And yet we're not villains - we're just surviving. We're escaping the struggles of our own lives by indulging in these worlds created by human imagination. Similarly, many of the constellations in orv do not have malicious intentions despite living off stories - uriel cares greatly for the incarnations she supports (as the "fangirl" archetype) and sun wukong and abfd also greatly support kimcom throughout their journey.
This is further solidified in the reveal of the oldest dream. Despite unintentionally creating worldlines through his imagination, the younger kim dokja was never a villain or "monster". He was simply a child who sook to escape the tragedies of his life through a webnovel. He depended on that novel to survive. And that was in no way the sin he thought it was - not even secretive plotter who had gone through countless regressions and witnessed the despair of the universe could hold it against him. Nor han sooyoung, nor yoo joonghyuk of the 1864th round, nor yoo sangah, nor anyone else in kimcom. No one thought dokja needed to atone for anything - they loved him and cared for him even when he couldn't love himself.
Just like kim dokja and just like the constellations, we are readers seeking an escape from the struggles of reality. And we too are loved - regardless of whether we know it or understand why.
Every morning my man texts me “goodmorning BEAUTIFUL” and i reply with a 4 paragraph blow-by-blow account of my dream where we were seahorse fathers but we couldnt find a surrogate mother so we illegally traded seahorse bitcoin for preserved seahorse eggs and held them inside our stomachs for days and days to simulate the sweet fullness of paternal gravidity and then the seahorse CIA found us and we died in a shootout with law enforcement in downtown los angeles. for seahorses
really fucks me up that kim dokja killing kim namwoon is initially played off as a joke because he didn't like his character in the novel, only for it to later be revealed that he sees his younger self in knw and is just projecting his own self loathing, only for it to later be revealed he resents that knw is continuously forgiven and accepted by yoo joonghyuk despite being fucked up, only for it to later be revealed that this is because kdj hates himself so much that he believes he is the only person who doesn't deserve to be forgiven or accepted. demon king of salvation who doesn't think he deserves to be saved. kind of crazy
I've come across many good analysis of ORV the past few years, and I can't pick which one to pin on my profile. If you're interested, check them out! Some of them may just be small excerpts of people's opinions, though :)
(This will be continually updated!) The Relationship Between Sooyoung, Dokja, and Joonghyuk; Self-Sacrifice As Their Love Language
Han Sooyoung and Kim Dokja's Relationship To The Apocalypse (short)
ORV's Epilogue (short)
Kim Dokja's Story Fragments (short)
Personal Intrepertation Of ORV (short)
TWSA and Kim Dokja
YooHanKim and Sooyoung's Importance (short)
Kim Dokja's Tragedy
Yoo Joonghyuk's Contradiction
Kim Dokja's Tendencies; The Thin Line Between Self-Sacrifical and Suicidal
Us As A Fragment Of Dokja (short)
Kim Dokja Is Fucked Up (short)
Dokja and Sooyoung's Special Bond (short)
Han Sooyoung's Paradox (short)
I'm well aware most of these analysis are only towards the trio of the novel.. I wish we can see more of the other characters :(