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I NEED TO SEE THE SECOND BEETLEJUICE MOVIE OR ELSE I WILL GO INSANE

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I do not know if this has been said before, but Dolores from Beetlejuice Beetlejuice did not girlboss nearly enough! Let her cook!

That's it, that's the post :P

Beetlejuice has literally been stalking Lydia for years. He's intentionally off-putting and gross. He openly enjoys freaking her out. It's his way of showing affection. He's like a horror Pepe Le Pew.

They refer to him as being a demon at least 3 times in BJBJ, as well as the fact that he had a satanic first wedding and cannot make the sign of the cross without setting himself on fire. He's evil. Funny, and sometimes helpful, but still evil. Doesn't mean he can't fall in love.

No, movie Lydia isn't into him. Why would she be? He's always terrorizing her and trying to coerce her into marriage, presumably for selfish reasons. Plus he's covered in bugs and spews guts and fluids wherever he goes. But that doesn't mean that they can't both change eventually. Hell, it's still a better love story than Twilight or (gag) Rory/Lydia.

So there is no "Is this particular scenario okay and not problematic?" with Beetlejuice. You're either on board with him being a literal monster, or you're not. You have to acknowledge it, accept it, and still be into it to be a Beetlebabe who isn't trying to make BJ into something nicer and cleaner than he is. We like it because monsters and goth girls are fun, not because it's in any way related to real life. Beetlejuice is about as far away from real life as you can get.

Sometimes you need a break from reality, morality, and acceptability. It's healthy to take a break from all that societal pressure. The reason horror and subversive comedy is popular is because it gives us some much needed freedom from the limited ways we're always expected to feel and behave.

Taking a break from drawing my mutuals to draw a present for a good friend of mine

Good job if you can tell who it is

omg when I was watching the movie all I was thinking about is that Astrid and Phoebe would totally get along

This is great

I created a tag… I’m cooking something for yall

QUE VIVAN LAS LESBIANAAAS😍

Hey~~

Lyds reaction lol

Velo

Resume of the 2nd movie

cursed wedding

BEETLEJUICE BEETLEJUICE BEE....

had a good idea for a Lydia edit, so I made it, my favorite goth girl, I’m going to be dressing up as her for Halloween

Official posters with characters for Beetlejuice sequel

They didn't. It's f*beep*ing censored. NICE FREAKING MOVIE *🎺 🎺*

They let Beetlejuice say Fuck

Alchemy & Dreams in Beetlejuice Part 2

Credit to the observant eye in the discord who noticed this fall from Astrid's belongings—

As mentioned in the last post, red and silver are representing Lydia and Astrid: the material and spiritual realms. The item which falls next to the cracked photograph is a molecular structure with a red atom and a silver atom.

Alchemists viewed the human body (microcosm) as a reflection of the universe (macrocosm). This suggested that atoms could give insights about human nature. Within this context, the atoms in the image represent Lydia and her dream Self (Astrid), and how they are the same person and are of the same element, due to the fact they both come from the same Molecule.

Alchemy consists of a mix of chemistry, philosophy, semiotics, and metaphysics, with much of the symbolism used to convey alchemical themes in Beetlejuice. But enough about Astrid the Mercurial Ghost; let's look at another character.

Otho

Throughout the first movie, Otho is typically associated with black and red. He's often wearing black with either a red tie, red buttons, or red shoes (which mysteriously disappear in a couple scenes only to be replaced by different colour shoes).

Red shoes have long been used in media to represent a metaphorical journey (The Red Shoes (1948), Kiki's Delivery Service (1989), and Hans Christian Andersen's The Red Shoes are a few examples). Need I remind you of one of Tim Burton's favourite movies, The Wizard of Oz?

Otho is the only character other than Lydia who piques interest in the dead. Despite his willingness to exploit them, he is ready to believe in their existence and study the handbook. These visual cues are conveying the character's motives.

Part of the alchemical process are the stages "Rubedo" and "Nigredo". Rubedo is Latin for "redness", the stage of understanding where two opposites have joined and created harmony. Nigredo is Latin for "blackness", the stage of putrefaction or decomposition, thus symbolising the dead. In layman's terms, red and black represent the character's willingness to connect with the dead. The only other character really associated with black and red is Lydia, and that speaks for itself.

Otho is a character who inspired the creation of Rory in the second movie. Within Lydia's psyche, Rory has been manifested from guilt. In the first film, Lydia is almost complicit in helping Otho to exorcise the Maitlands after he makes it clear that he wants to capitalise on the dead. In the second film, Lydia is under Rory's management to capitalise on the dead, and she is trying to make peace with that guilt by trying to help people through exorcisms.

Guilt in dreams is often seen as a manifestation of the unconscious mind's attempt to communicate unresolved internal conflicts. This is where the shadow becomes a central concept in Jungian psychology, referring to the parts of the Self that the conscious mind rejects or ignores. Lydia rejects the traits that Otho and Rory embody, and that is why her reconciliation with Astrid is a manifestation of her own forgiveness.

The Chemical Wedding

We talked about the purpose of the Chemical Wedding before, but why is it so relevant to the plot of Beetlejuice? Other than the fact Betelgeuse has fallen in love with Lydia, there is an allegorical reason for why the wedding must take place between these two, and no one else but these two.

A Chemical Wedding is the marriage between the sun and the moon. In alchemical texts they are often depicted as the white queen and the red king, though this has nothing to do with literal gender roles, for we see Lydia herself portrayed as the red king in her parallel with Astrid. It is related to the Anima (the female self) and the Animus (the male self). This is also the marriage between mercury and sulfur, spirit and matter, the dead and the living.

One of the most famous works on the subject of a Chemical Wedding is a Rosicrucian allegory published in 1616 by Christian Rosenkreuz. It describes a mystical journey where the main character must attend a wedding at a mysterious castle. The journey is a symbol of the alchemical process, while the wedding itself represents the final transformative stage.

The story is filled with strange and dreamlike imagery, with many claiming it as a source of German dark romanticism.

Rosenkreuz's allegory actually represents inner transformation of the individual, with marriage being used as a metaphor, insofar as the masculine and feminine halves must be merged together in matrimony to achieve completion within oneself.

"Death and the Maiden" trope is a motif that depicts a woman being taken by Death, as he desires to marry her. It is dire for death to marry his living bride, for he wishes to venture the living world and the underworld with her.

Betelgeuse is the perfect complementary opposite to Lydia, each crafted to embody the other's symbolic missing half. Betelgeuse is the animus; he's loud, provocative, and dead; Lydia is the anima; she's quiet, thoughtful, and alive. The contrast is straightforward and uncomplicated. You could easily spend hours analysing their differences, and you'd still be right—because they are deliberately written as foils to one another.

Looking back at how Otho/Rory represents the shadow of Lydia, we should take into account who guided her through this dream sequence. Our psyche creates these thought-images in our unconscious minds as a means to roleplay scenarios where we have internal conflict. It gives us a chance to psychoanalyse ourselves and try to understand the core of our trauma.

Betelgeuse, within Lydia's dream, is acting as a guide (remember his guide outfit in the first film?). He's constantly appearing to her, influencing her and urging her to face her fears. While he's causing chaos in the way he knows best, he's also showing Lydia the bare truth, and this is especially apparent when it comes to Rory: he tells Lydia she's an enabling codependent and forces Rory to tell the truth about his intentions. Betelgeuse is what Jung would refer to as the Trickster archetype. The Trickster is often seen as a figure that disrupts the status quo and challenges the Ego through chaotic and karmic actions, serving as a profound guide in the process of one's personal development. Think of "Jester's privilege", or The Fool in tarot.

In mythological symbolism, there comes the legend of a scorpion that stung Orion to death (the giant red star "Betelgeuse" sits on Orion's belt). The scorpion was delivered as to snub Orion's pride and teach him a lesson by way of death, because the scorpion is a symbol of death and rebirth. This is the Trickster archetype again, teaching a lesson in a very karmic way. Betelgeuse does the same throughout both movies. Otho, the Deetz, and the Deans are all punished by him in the first film for acting as antagonists against the ghosts of Winter River. Despite this, he also acts as an antagonist himself by punishing the Maitlands, two loving parental figures for Lydia, for getting in the way of his plan to marry her.

"They therefore represent a supreme pair of opposites, not hopelessly divided by logical contradiction but, because of the mutual attraction between them, giving promise of union and actually making it possible. The coniunctio oppositorum engaged the speculations of the alchemists in the form of the ‘Chymical Wedding," — Carl Jung, Psychology & Alchemy

In alchemical tradition, Saturn is associated with the metal lead, which symbolises the starting point of the alchemical work—the Nigredo phase. Alchemy is mostly known as the quest to turn lead into gold, but the allegorical meaning is to refine the Self. Saturn is equated with Cronos in mythology, the father of time, who was portrayed as an old man with a scythe/sickle, similar to the grim reaper, who is associated with the end of one's time. Betelgeuse has time-warping powers and wears time-keeping devices on his wrist, all a microcosm for how we measure eternity.

The whole Alchemical Opus works through THREE stages:

Nigredo (Black Stage): Betelgeuse represents lead and Saturn. Putrefaction.

Albedo (White Stage): Before Lydia summons Betelgeuse and agrees to the marriage, he is wearing a black and white suit. White is added to the mix. Purification.

Rubedo (Red Stage): Lydia is manifested a red wedding dress to finish the ceremony. They completed the alchemical process. Lead is turned into Gold.

In the movie's original wedding scene, found here, at 9:11 on the clock the afterlife creature who marries Lydia and Betelgeuse dissipates into fire, and then the scene ends. 911 in numerology is the number of completion, and is used in occultism to symbolise new beginnings and rebirth.

For this reason, it has been theorised that the wedding vows went through, and the Chemical Wedding was completed.

Alchemy & Dreams in Beetlejuice

Part 2

The more I reflect on the plot of Beetlejuice 2, the more I doubt that much of what happens in the film actually took place.

It's all written allegorically. Tim's work has always embodied Jungian themes such as archetypes and the shadow self, as well as his use of alchemy & numerology in the original Beetlejuice movie. For example, his use of the planet Saturn and its symbolism, as well as how he relates it back to Beetlejuice by having him wear several watches on his wrist, and freezing Adam & Wolf in time. "Sands of Time", "Saturn: the Father of Time".

You know how everyone who appears in your dreams is supposed to represent yourself?

Astrid = Lydia

"The images of alchemy are the most complete expression of individuation as a process, and they are therefore a valuable aid to understanding the symbolism of dreams." - Carl Jung

Astrid wears a silver dress, Lydia wears a red dress. In alchemy, (something Jung believed was a method to understand the psyche within our dreams) silver needs to be purified by red. Combined, these colours symbolise the union of spirit and matter, or the balance of opposing forces, essential for the completion of the alchemical process. So we have Astrid and Lydia symbolising the spiritual (silver/mercury) and the material (red/sulfur). This is why Lydia watches Astrid at the end of the dream getting married and having a baby. She is watching her dream representation living out her material desires.

They completed the alchemical process by fixing their relationship (forgiving yourself).

Astrid is so similar to Lydia, even storming off on her bike when Rory proposed. Rory also pushes Lydia to do the Ghost House show when we know that exploiting the dead is very OOC for her. If Astrid is Lydia, then Rory must represent her teenage feelings towards her parents. Her father married Delia who teen Lydia couldn't stand, and they both forced Lydia to move with them and adjust to their lifestyle.

Astrid and Lydia reconciling is Lydia reconciling with her past self. Through silver and red, spirit and matter, this is the completion of the alchemical process. Why did they put Delia in a purple dress alongside these two, when purple in alchemy symbolises the transmutation outcome? They could have chosen any colours, but the ones chosen just so happen to correspond with the story. Silver is spirit, Red is matter, Purple is the merging of spirit & matter, resulting in "enlightenment". You say Beetlejuice's name three times because in alchemy it's the number of completion (sulfur, mercury, salt).

And I must repeat myself: there is no clear indication of where Astrid's dream sequence begins. The sequence at the end seems to start after Lydia looks at the Maitlands' model with the lights as stars above her. Lydia is looking down at the town (the material realm), while her head is in the stars (the spiritual realm).

The whole Beetlejuice franchise is about alchemy, because Betelgeuse himself is an alchemist. He is the Trickster/Magician archetype, who is able to manipulate reality and able to traverse between the living and the dead, also known as rebirth.

Betelgeuse = Lydia's Masculine Self

Alchemical texts were concerned with achieving the coniunctio oppositorum (the union of opposites). This process is also known as "The Marriage of Opposites" or "Chemical Wedding". Whose marriage/wedding was important to the plot in both movies?

Delia finds her masculine self (Charles) thanks to Betelgeuse at the Soul Train. The Soul Train is the ferry which carries souls along the River Styx. It's the main river in the underworld that separates the living and the dead.

"The living and the dead; can they co-exist?" - Lydia Deetz

So, Lydia was watching Astrid (her dream self) get married and have the Beetlebaby. Everything Astrid goes through is a mixture of Lydia's fears and desires. Lydia's teen self feared that Betelgeuse was using Lydia as a way to have access to the living realm, and we know this because of Astrid's experience with Jeremy. However, by this logic, it also means Lydia desires marriage and a baby with Betelgeuse. Unfortunately, Lydia is in the material realm, while her masculine self is in the spiritual realm.

Canonically speaking, since we know Lydia loves horror films, dreaming of giallo movies aligns much better with her character than ignoring her ability to speak to the dead.

If I had a penny for everytime my ship developed a psychic connection in their second movie together, I'd have two pennies. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Dream Theory Shortcuts

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The Opening Segment

Astrid

Richard

Rory

Charles

Glickman

Betelgeuse's Couple's Therapy

Betelgeuse/Jeremy parallels and Garden of Eden symbolism

Astrid's Demonic Birthing Sequence

Darktoonverse

Spoken dream/nightmare allusions

Critical analysis of the literal interpretation

References:

Casper

Carrie

The Shining

The Fly/Rosemary's Baby

The Wizard of Oz

Alfred Hitchcock

Elvira pt. I & pt. II feat. Labyrinth

B&W Segments

Ed Wood/Plan 9 From Outer Space

Mario Bava

Midterms, ya know I hate em.

Personal request from my babe @xxx-theartofsuicide-xxx - all nightmare, dream, and implied hallucinatory lines throughout Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (2024). 

Beetlejuice Fan Theory

Okay, so I’ve already shared this with several of you, but I thought it would be neat to post it here in case anyone out there was interested in adding on or joining the discussion. I am absolutely CONVINCED that Betelgeuse knew he was going to try and marry Lydia before the Maitlands ever summoned him. Here are the events as we know them to have passed:

Lydia spots the Maitlands through the window and they comment on it, in full view of the model. 

Lydia receives the skeleton key from Jane.

Cue Betelgeuse’s commercial. The Maitlands immediately leave for the Neitherworld. 

Lydia enters the attic, picks up the handbook, sits down, starts reading.

The Maitlands return three months later and Juno says “I believe he’s been sleazing around your cemetery.”

When the Maitlands FINALLY summon Beej, he goes out of his way to make it look like he’s still trapped in the model- but he’s not. He says to their faces “you want to get some people out of your house. I want to get SOMEBODY out of your house.“ 

From this point on until the end of the snake scene, when Barbara calls him back, Betelgeuse has free roam of the house. Juno even explicitly scolds the Maitlands, telling them “you took Betelgeuse out and you did not put him back!”(sidenote; I can’t help but wonder what he was doing during those hours)

Later, Delia comments that there’s no way anyone could get into the attic because it’s locked. This tells us that Lydia never turned over the skeleton key. Charles kept the study for himself. Lydia keeps the attic. 

We KNOW that Lydia never gave up the skeleton key. This means that if she did continue visiting the attic during those three months(of course she did, why wouldn’t she?) she would have had to sneak around to do it without arousing Delia’s suspicion(cause Delia would take the attic and turn it into a god awful trendy mess given the chance). Which means she was probably only there late at night… wink wink nudge nudge naughty, naughty girl ;)

PLEASE if anyone would like to add on to this, dispute my claims, or contribute a theory of your own, feel free to do so. 

With Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, Tim Burton looks like he might be aiming to do the funniest thing that’s ever happened in one of his movies. I’m extremely here for it. Like, honestly, let the antagonist and the protagonist fall in love (with or without meaning to) while working together to save somebody else. Thirty-six years and multiple franchise iterations have determined we love them because they’re both freaks; what have you even got to lose?

When the bad boy you thought about once won’t leave your brain-home

HE WONT GET OFF MY BRAIN-COUCH AND STOP DRINKING MY BRAIN-SODAS

PLEASE LEAVE

I JUST WANNA WATCH THE BEETLEJUICE SEQUEL MOVIE WITH AN EMPTY MIND AND NOT BE DISTRACTED BY MADE UP THIRST EDITS OF A BAD BOY THE ENTIRE TIME

No one talk to me, this is my personality now

JENNA ORTEGA as Astrid Deetz BEETLEJUICE BEETLEJUICE (2024)

WEAK IN THE KNEES every time goth mommy monica bellucci appeared in beetlejuice beetlejuice oh my god