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Why do you ship BoButter — not hating! I just haven’t seen it as much!
hi! that's alright, i will try to explain my position
how should i put this... i like them as a couple more not because they had a lot of interactions throughout the show, but rather because of their potential. they are my favorite characters - they're both incredibly well-written - and i also like them individually, independently of each other, and how they could grow up being in a relationship is a very interesting topic to me
so here's the reason: they work well together. why? i'm planning to make a post about this one day, so for now i'll try to be brief:
- on a superficial level they differ, but if you look deeper, you realize that they are very similar (both had acting careers, similar coping mechanisms, same age and gender). they would understand one another well, without being completely identical to each other and thus living in a kind of echo chamber (as in the case of todd and pb f. e.)
- at the same time their differences are not as critical as diane and pb had, and if they really tried to understand their partner, they would truly complement, not suppress each other
that's why by the way their relationship is possible only after the end of the series (aus don't count), where both characters have gone through a long path of growth and, finally, are ready to build healthy friendship, which after a while could turn into something more
for instance: bojack would become more independent with mr peanutbutter, as he would have to solve his problems himself because pb, due to his forgetfulness and carelessness, simply would not be able to do it for him, as princess carolyn did; mr peanutbutter, in turn, would not have to suppress the desire to make big gifts since bojack just would not mind this. he also wouldn't finally have a partner who was much younger than him. and so on
- and. imho bojack wouldn't simply be able to build healthy equal relationships with women because of his mommy issues lol. he's too old to completely rebuild his mindset, and well... i can imagine post-canon!bojack being actually happy and not self-destructive only in a relationship with a man or being single at all. but that's just me
and yes, they certainly wouldn't fix each other. i rather see it this way: they go through their personal growth, supporting each other and becoming good friends. in turn, a strong closeness and a huge common history, as well as the growing sympathy in general, contributes to the emergence of romantic feelings and one of them ends up confessing to the other, and that's where they start dating.
i also get that they could just remain friends as well, and that would also be great, but being romantic partners, in my opinion, would further expand their potential and gain personal growth as characters. they have every chance of becoming great partners for each other for the rest of their lives (which is not very long)
so yeah, i myself can't say that there were many interactions between them in the show, but i rather like their potential and the dynamics of their relationship. i hope i answered your question anon!
bobutters going to the other side of the country for a few weeks between seasons 4 and 5... just a friendly trip because they both eventually got tired from life and relationships and fame... they spend time together without direct romantic interactions, go to shitty movies and sometimes drink at the bar. their classic dynamics but more of a partnership than a rivalry... and then they come back as if nothing had happened. things go pretty much the same as in the show and they don't even talk about it ever again
mr peanutbutter and bojack from alpha!au in general
got caught in the rain again, but found out about the existence of umbrellas
merry christmas friends!
next year promises to be difficult, but on the other hand when was it ever easy? everything will be fine. i hope you have a wonderful holiday alone or with your loved ones <3
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i came across an oc that was conceived as a hypothetical bojack and mr peanutbutter's kid and decided why not redraw it
tbh i don't know if i could even call it oc?? because this is essentially harper with a partially modified design and backstory (which doesn't really exist). you can imagine that she was born through surrogacy or appeared out of thin air. anyway i just had fun drawing it :)
soo... this au won the poll, i am a little late, but the post promises to be long (i hope this is a good thing for you. because for me it is). i'll give you the exact dates and all that, because i feel better when everything is accurate. well you know
they got together in 1998, 6 years after pb began acting in "mr peanutbutter's house". it's just that bojack suddenly realized that his life seemed quite brighter with pb by his side, and that he was attached to him, and was no longer under the yoke of his homophobic mother, and decided to, well, give it a chance (same with pb, but less thoughts and worries). one day they somehow kissed, after a while discussed it and made their minds to "try" (no one really believed that this relationship would last long). and well they just... stayed like that. never broke up. feeling absolutely comfortable together and eventually not even considering ending the relationship or anything like that.
they got married around 2009, a year after the ban on same-sex marriage was lifted in california (at that time they had been dating for about 12 years). the show begins in 2014, respectively, at that time they had been together for 16 years, and had been married for 5 years.
as mentioned in another post about this au, they still have the same problems, but bojack has much less regrets behind his back, which is why his guilt and trauma are far from as strong as it was in original. he gets annoyed with pb when he is too positive about everything again, and pb gets annoyed with him when he tries to drown out problems with alcohol - substance abuse is still the case, but to a lesser extent. discussing feelings for them was initially a huge problem (because both are not good at it, and pb also tends to deny any negative emotions), but over time they somehow learnt how to work with it. they often screw up, but they try to get better, really. i vouch for them. they're doing their best your honor
they completely understand each other, to the extent that one can sometimes predict what the other will say verbatim. they have 10001 local jokes. while classics are more gentle and calm, these ones rather give the impression of that old flighty married couple who make fun of each other and initially you may not even understand why they are still together at all and how they tolerate each other... of course can also be super sappy sometimes, there's no doubt, since they're both lowkey a bit romantic - especially pb, boj often just plays along with him
both do films. bojack, unlike his classic self, still stars in some movies, but does it less often, because he is mostly disappointed in this field already; pb loves his career and accepts all kinds of offers. sometimes they star together in the same works (half of such cases end up with both of them being kicked off the set in disgrace)
by the way they like to throw parties in honor of each other! it's kinda their tradition. both try to make it as lavish and luxurious as possible, eventually turning it into another competition.
they live at bojack's place, yeah (it's just that bojack's house is familiar and i like it more lol. can also help to distinguish them from classics if it matters)
relationships with others:
princess carolyn is still bojack's agent, but at least now she doesn't have to dig him out of all sorts of troubles every single day. she has to dig out them both (but not that often) (something like attacking the postman or saying nonsense that will ruin your reputation. or setting a fire in the house because someone got distracted by tv), especially when pb becomes her client too. they are generally on good terms
at one of the halloween parties they also let todd stay at their place because they think he is a poor gay boy who was kicked out by his parents (pb persuaded bojack). he sleeps on their couch, but he can put things in the closet. he was once offered a guest room, he stayed in it for a couple of days and returned to the previous place because he likes it there more.
pb and todd are in the most positive relationship possible and quickly find common ground, while todd's relationship with boj is not the easiest, but good. pb tries to smooth things over whenever bojack gets annoyed with todd and treats him not very well, so overall they even have a bit of an idyll at home. many misadventures still remain there (like disneyland or halloween in january), but often bojack is also involved in some way (not by his will). todd's their son <3
i also like to think that boj still hires a ghostwriter for his biography because he wants to raise his popularity and take on the acting career more thoroughly. he and diane become friends as a result too, some arcs with their joint participation are preserved, some are not, depending on which ones. however this time there are no hints of a romantic relationship for understandable reasons
so in general, as i said, this is the original with minimal settings and with a pleasant (for some of us) bonus in the form of bobutter. suggest ideas and ask if you are curious about something! thanks for reading! <3
made an attempt to draw with a mouse like i had been doing for seven years before i got my tablet and it IS IMPOSSIBLE i really tried very hard
how did i manage to draw anything at all i'm in shock
teenager bojack reads a lot of books and begins to consider himself a real intellectual; he often quotes oscar wilde, mark twain and others with a smart look trying to show off in front of pb (pb is completely delighted and in awe)
life partners au: teenage years
i wanted to write SO MANY things but it seems like my brain DOESN'T work at all, so please take this i hope you understand what i tried to convey
mostly they're just two best friends who argue about stuff all the time, get into all kinds of trouble together (usually pb's fault ofc) and value each other very much. also childhood crush on the part of both of them, which pb doesn't realize at all (since it is normal for him to love others and he cannot specifically identify these feelings as something more romantic), but bojack begins to realize closer to the age of 16 and is simply horrified by this (then he will convince himself that imagination just ran wild anyway), and all this mess continues until they turn 25-27 and enter into an official relationship yeahhh
he was there that whole time
poor bojack… both his parents died, it must be so hard for him… yeah his mother was ehhh……. are we in the right parlour by the way… i wanna go home…. but i have to be here for him… it seems so difficult to make a speech at a funeral, bojack is doing good… WAIT WHAT DID HE CALL HIS MOM-
bojack is disappointed, but not surprised
suddenly i thought about what free churro episode would look like in old married couple au. if, let's say, mr peanutbutter persuaded bojack to take him to the funeral because he was worried about his husband's mental state. he would just silently stand in the background for the entire episode and laugh awkwardly at bojack's jokes. sometimes patting him on the shoulder as a support. he would be absolutely useless but the idea sounds so funny to me. even considering the whole gloominess of the episode itself
alphas if they were smart
original
this pmv is based on alpha!bobutter au, which you can read more about here and here and here or by the tag as well.
i wanted to write a lot of things because this is kinda my first big pmv, but now i realize that i don't actually have much to say lmao. if someone doesn't understand any part or needs more lore or maybe a frame with better quality, then don't be afraid to ask, i'll be happy to answer! please enjoy!
the first months of their relationship......
bojack once tells mr peanutbutter about his mother in more detail, as well as about her dementia. and pb begins to worry that boj will be affected by this disease sooner or later too, so he starts to monitor his health even more. AND also from now on tries to bring him all kinds of crosswords riddles puzzles etc and makes him to do them so that bojack trains his brain activity
crawling into the fridge like stolas
you won't die alone everything is gonna be fine
wlw bobutter for you my friend