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completing this wlw bobutter saga

Letting you know I enjoy your art and Like too save it and set it as my icons, You will never find me, But I wanted too thank you for your hard work and time put into the bojack horseman community (You made me ship bobutter btw)

ohhh that's so nice to hear! thank you!!! i'm glad that people like my art :). as a creator i can say that feedback is veeery important and it is extremely pleasant to get praise for your work and i'm also happy i infected you with bobutter virus, that was my main goal hehe

these two for you sweet person

you have no idea how much i love drawing my faves in random outfits from pinterest

anyway

pb acts less and less in movies and eventually starts his entertainment show on television, where he talks on absolutely all topics, most of which he doesn't know a damn thing about. but every time he appears in a new stunning suit ofc

and sometimes he says hello to his husband and friends because he can

they're outside your door. what are you gonna do?

bobutters rarely go to public events together, but when they do (the wedding of mutual friends for example), they ALWAYS wear matching suits. how stupid these costumes are depends on who chose them this time, mr peanutbutter or bojack. like it could just be modest costumes of the same cut and similar colors, or it's an absolutely clownish outfits like this:

or this:

they make others feel awkward

fr

let's take a break *ugly sobbing* from angst and look at them *wiping tears* being happy

smth i thought about while drawing it: rarely when bojack is alone at home and feels kinda sad he comes to mr peanutbutter on the set. and he 100% takes with him some delicious cookies that he baked in advance. pb is overjoyed because of his unexpected visit every time and can't help but cling to him and not let him go for the next half hour (the rest of the crew is very displeased about it)

and you can't convince me that bojack doesn't like pda. i have PROOF:

i have some thoughts about what would happen if bojack and mr peanutbutter got together before the start of the show. @fandomfreakstudios have a wonderful post on this topic and i like their au very much. i just want to speculate on this from a slightly different angle.

i agree with freak's vision in many ways, but thinking about it, i've always found their relationship in such a scenario to be more messy and extremely ambiguous. ambiguous in terms of the fact that they themselves do not know who they are to each other… okay i'll try to explain

they meet for the first time at some event: an award ceremony, a party, whatever. then they see each other again, again, again, and in the end bojack reluctantly gets closer to pb - out of boredom, maybe - they drink together, chat about everything, discuss acting and so on. gradually they grow closer, their relationship becomes more trusting and intimate.

and before they knew it, they suddenly started spending nights at each other's places; mr peanutbutter recently divorced katrina, and he doesn't want to feel lonely, so all his attention is now focused on bojack. he became attached like a faithful dog (literally) and it will be almost impossible for him to let this man go, no matter what a jerk he actually is.

and bojack, who completely destroyed his previous relationship with herb, sees this. he doesn't reject pb when he becomes more intrusive for two reasons: firstly, he is afraid to ruin everything again, to lose a loved one, and therefore he tries to play a good friend; secondly, he likes this attention. he craves it. he longs to be wanted, to be admired, to be needed no matter what.

so, yes, their relationship is growing, and so is codependency. bojack tries to be kind, fair, supportive, but when he discovers how difficult it is - and most importantly, when he sees that his efforts don't matter, because pb won't leave him anyway - he stops. and, when there is not only an agent who will get you out of any trouble, but also a close person who is ready to love you no matter what disgusting things you do, and justify your behavior in any way, you stop not only growing, you become much worse than you were already.

nevertheless, he still has bright sides, some kind of concept of morality, and he is literally eaten up by guilt for what he is doing with their relationship. he, from time to time, makes some attempts to fix it - with well-known grand gestures - but it doesn't last long. then he gets tired again, realizes that everything he does is pointless, and turns to alcohol, drugs - everything, just to calm the pain and guilt consuming him from the inside.

mr peanutbutter also tries hard at first. he genuinely believes that if he makes enough effort, their relationship will be as happy and trouble-free as it was in his family, as it was on his native peninsula. he keeps ignoring all the red flags until everything turns into a real disaster. he still doesn't want to leave bojack because a) he is afraid to be alone, b) he is attached to him, he actually likes him very much; c) he feels sorry for boj.

we have seen how mr peanutbutter can behave in a relationship if he is really displeased or upset about something. eventually even his patience comes to an end, and maybe he makes the first attempt to leave, but quickly returns - either on his own initiative, or because of bojack's conviction that he will change. then everything repeats again.

this time, pb stops ignoring the bad attitude and goes on the offensive - he responds to manipulation with manipulation, to neglect with neglect etc. as a result, he becomes little better than his partner. they start quarreling constantly, it exhausts both of them. but that's all they have left when they just can't let each other go.

if we draw analogies, then this is something between bodiane, pb/diane and bojack/pc relationships, but i hope you understand the course of my thoughts.

bojack's career is still a failure, but at the same time pb's one is much less successful than in the original, obviously because of his personal life. well, now he has much more time to, for example, fight with his life partner again and eventually drive off to the other side of the united states together. for some unknown reason. they're sick to death of each other and yet still codependent. well. you know how it is

i could write more, but it seems like i've got a cold and i also want to sleep (whimpering whimpering) and the post already came out kinda long. so yeah. but maybe i'll talk about it later again

oh and i almost forgot

they DEF have photos of each other in their wallets

in the continuation of that post <3

that silly dog again

mr peanutbutter forced (sweetly invited) bojack to go shopping together

au belongs to @fandomfreakstudios 💕

i saw this and i can't help it

i mean it's canon

bojack: caring

honestly you can imagine anything

when i realize that my life goes somewhere wrong and i have nothing to do with it i make stupid memes

at the request of the workers (@bjorkhorseman). i know nothing about k-pop so if i made a mistake somewhere it's not me it's pb

apparently i am the only bobutter shipper who thinks that pb hadn't been into bojack that whole time before they began living together....

i already made a post related to this topic btw. i just think that it would be quite interesting if pb started to gradually fall in love with bojack just the same as bojack started to fall in love with him after the end of the show. the problem is, if mr peanutbutter liked boj at first sight or smth like that, it doesn't sound.... right.... he didn't know the real bojack then, he saw only his media image, and behind it - just a broken self-destructive jerk

i like to think that he started getting to know him after bojack got out of prison. he finds out that bojack is into theater. bojack is good at driving. bojack can be kind and thoughtful. bojack can be sincere and vulnerable. etc etc etc. and he starts to love THIS part of bojack. pb knows his flaws, has seen him at his worst, he also knows his good sides, and begins to love him because of this, and not because bojack is simply charismatic/handsome/he was the first to pay attention to him after another divorce. it would show his growth as a character, since all his previous relationships were kinda... superficial? he loved katrina, jessica, diane, pickles, but those feelings weren't deep in my opinion (at least initially); i won't go into details, i think many people see it anyway and btw positvty has a great video on this issue.

a real friendship began to form between them only towards the end of the show - after that scene in the bar maybe? then bojack supports pb after he cheated on pickles. they had never been close before, and boj was really open with only a few people such as diane, herb... and, according to my assumptions (bobutter propaganda), after bojack's release from prison, their relationship continues to grow. pb is the only one who stayed with boj and did not distance himself from him (he did the opposite actually), and he sees this. and there is potential here. they work great together, but i'll talk about this some other time.......

however, i respect the opposite point of view, it's quite interesting too and i consider it as plausible as mine. i like to look at their relationship from a different angle, that's all

legendary mr chocolate hazelnut spread and bobo the angsty zebra

i wonder why i've seen so little art with them. and i like how they look together... a pleasant palette, a pleasant combination of colors... they complement each other so well

babies from that post

I have some questions friend:

Which AUs do you think would be interesting for a Bobutter fanfic?

Do you think they could have been friends (like, real friends) in childhood? Supposing that for some reason PB's family moved from the Labrador Peninsula and went to live where the Horsemans live and BJ studies. I think PB would be interested in meeting BJ, and since BJ was most likely the recluse of the room, PB's attention would be welcome, but I still think he would envy PB for being happy so easily. And PB would have a totally different view of the world, since everything is perfect in his homeland.

What do you think the dynamic between them would be like if they were women? When you're a woman, you have a lot of social pressures, so I don't think BJ would have a sex life like he does in the series. This I say, as openly as a man like him takes it. I think she would feel much more rivalry with PB, and her relationship with Sarah (if she were a boy) would also be totally strange, or maybe it wouldn't happen at all? She would have much lower self-esteem for her body. As for PB, she would have much more gossip about her 3 ex-husbands. I mean, a woman her age with 3 failed marriages, what's her problem? And a woman that age with such young men? And I think she would have more pressure to have children. Which would lead to it not happening. Because.... BOOOM, PB is infertile (not sterile. Infertile. She has little chance of getting pregnant, but she could still do it.) So this could cause a lot of problems for the happy vision of the world that she would have. And she would clearly be a little obsessed with staying young, because no one could love an old woman(in her mind). So, would they be sadder?

hey!

first of all i want to say that EVERY au would be interesting for a bobutter fic 'cause we need more fics my glorious warriors.

secondly, kids au: oooh it would be fun!! them as kids interacting together... well i fantasize like this: if mr peanutbutter moves to san francisco with his family and, let's say, gets into the same class with bojack, he either immediately wins the attention of his classmates and becomes everyone's favorite, or first he needs some time to get used to new people and his new life, and bojack becomes his friend. in the first case, he has quite little contact with bojack, but when this happens it is always extremely friendly and easy. bojack also tries to be kind and pleasant to him because he is afraid to meet public condemnation, but in his soul over the years he begins to envy him and hate him more and more (for the same reasons as in the original). so there's not much chemistry between them, but it sounds more plausible. in the second case, pb due to the sudden change of environment shuts down for a while, but still tries to find friends among classmates, and since boj is not particularly sociable and most likely did not have many himself pb and he get closer. they spend a lot of time together, play and walk, watch cartoons, and really enjoy each other's company. that would be adorable!! mr peanutbutter would be practically the only ray of light in bojack's life, and he'd actually treasured him. but, in the end, pb gains popularity, earns a lot of friends, and... further at the discretion of the author. imo they would drift apart and bojack would hate him in the same way, but there would also be a more personal drama here hehe

tbh the idea of drawing how they play and have fun with each other as children sounds... very tempting

thirdly, genderswap au: surely if they are women they will be sadder..... 😔 but joking aside, i like your thoughts! i've never considered that idea so i don't have much to say. the only thing is, i think it would change a lot. because of the influence of social stereotypes and expectations they would grow up very different from their original versions, and most likely, as you mentioned, they'd have other problems and development paths. i'd be interested to read about it in the fanfiction, yes!

thank you for your thoughts my pal!

in continuation of that post

Eye for an eye broski

Bobutter headcanons, hand em over 🔫 /silly

i won't repeat the same things that you said in your post with headcanons for them because i generally agree with you! one thing: i want to believe that bojack didn't star in horny unicorn after he got out of prison. the movie industry is a very toxic place for him and i don't think he would ever want to return to the set again

instead he rather devoted himself to the theater? it seems that his soul lies precisely to it. he started with productions in prisons and then got a job in the theater. begins putting on plays there, and mr peanutbutter definitely attends each one with great interest and pride!!! him sitting in the audience and be like ''yes yes yes my husband directed this play! he's so talented! ooo ooh he's over there!! HEY BOJACK!" (the whole theater hears him)

when pb has time, he attends bojack's rehearsals as well! he praises and encourages EVERY actor, even the shittiest ones, which is why everyone there adores him. of course boj is genuinely pleased when he does this, even though it seems like he isn't ("why did you come? you'd better have stayed at home. why waste time on this shit?") he's just a little shy.

mr peanutbutter continued his career. he keeps acting in movies and tv series of various kinds; but over the years he definitely does it less, spending more time on hobbies and bojack

speaking of relations with the rest of the cast: they don't communicate with diane at all - neither pb nor bojack. however, maybe pb and diane sometimes like each other's posts on social networks, making sure that everything is okay and no one is dead

they keep in friendly contact with princess carolyn and definitely visit each other at least once a month! i mean, they don't communicate much, especially boj and pc, but they keep warm relationship. sometimes she even lets them babysit ruthie (they try very hard to do everything right) (ruthie loves them) (that thing describes their relationship perfectly for me)

todd probably remained the closest of the whole cast to them, at least because he and pb are still best friends. i really want to believe that they hold meetings of pb livin' from time to time, and mr peanutbutter considers bojack an unofficial member, simply because he accidentally walked into the study during one of them.

they come up with new crazy moronic projects and give them to bojack for consideration. he grumbles, indignant at how stupid it is, but still contributes something of his own, which he thinks will make their plan more logical. it turns out even worse, and almost every time they are on the verge of bankruptcy honestly. but at least it's fun!

although they probably would eventually stop investing ALL their money in those brilliant business projects because, well... spending your old age as homeless is not a very appealing prospect (bojack insisted on that)

i also have a post about their relationship with hollyhock

and the headcanon about reading together is here as well

i think they have quite a similar sense of humor. at least it was shown that they both love long setups for punchlines! of course, bojack likes more dark jokes while pb prefers light-hearted ones, but it still seems to me that they would definitely find common ground here.

they have a bunch of inside jokes and tbh they also definitely have a few people that they like to gossip about together (they do it on that art of mine btw 😏)

pb removed the thunder room (converted it into smth else, maybe storage). he also stopped drinking alcohol, at least while bojack's around so he won't be tempted to relapse again

probably thanks to (almost) 4 unsuccessful marriages and work on himself, pb would take the whole wedlock thing more seriously and not even try to talk about it with bojack because well it's bojack. but! after so many years of loneliness and a few ones of really successful healthy relationship and therapy bojack may want to get married? of course it would be difficult for him because of his distorted understanding of the union of two people as such, but, in the end, he has time. so if he does want it, ig he will be the one to propose. screwing up 19641969 times in the process of course. it'd be cute :з

i decided not to mention that they like to hug and walk in the park together and so on like the real snotty romantics, because it's obvious. i'm sorry for the possibly long answer, i've just been sitting all day in the socrates pose thinking about what i should write. thanks for reading!

okay i want to put my two cents in that whole children thing too

tbh i've never thought about the idea of them having children, together or separately, but! if (could it be considered the 293948th au? probably not) hollyhock forgave bojack after the end of the show, and they somehow patched things up with each other... that would be... cool. i just feel sorry for this old dummy, and his interactions with her were not very successful but strangely sweet... and, in fact, if he still had a more or less close relationship with not only a member of his family, but also with another horse, it would be a great growth for the character i think.

bojack would be extremely awkward with her then. he would choose every word he says and try as hard as he could not to disappoint hollyhock again. he would also be very happy every time she texted/called or even visited them, but still remain kinda low-key due to his self-doubt?

pb would be completely comfortable! oh it's bojack's sister! she's sweet! so they wouldn't have any problems. he'd most likely even act as some kind of intermediary between them.

they'd also try soooo hard to stay on the same wavelength with her. because of the age difference it would be a liiittle difficult! pb sends hollyhock funny "meme-style pictures" every time he sees them (stoned fox or pepe the frog at best) and hollyhock responds with a simple "lol" or "haha" quietly cringing. bojack realizes that this is not what makes modern youth laugh and grumbles every time but pb doesn't listen to him.

from time to time hollyhock would also recommend them some games or recently released cartoons/tv series and they would actually play/watch them! just imagine how these two go through undertale together for example... pb openly sobs over the ending while bojack sits with a stony face trying to hold back tears. or she would recommend her favorite bands/singers and it would be mitski or will wood (?!?!)

anyway, i love this cliched concept with parents who have that "how do you do fellow kids" vibe and their cringing child, which is so often used in sitcoms. it brings me happiness and heals my soul

Thank you so much for being so kind and giving us your art! Serious. About Crackerjack, ideas about him may change in my mind, but, I think I would like him to have the classic diamond shape on his forehead, a gap between his teeth like his paternal grandmother, black hair like Bojack, but it would be straighter and well-behaved, and the brown skin of his great-grandfather or great-grandmother. He likes more *elegant* clothes? Or even sport style because PB could always take him to exercise he feels more confident. But he also often dresses like his parents. A similar style. As a teenager he could be described as "cool". In adult life he is more of a businessman. And I think he would be a lawyer. He, along with his brothers, certainly entered the world of child actors, because they are the children of two stars (well, one star, since Bojack's career was kind of ruined). Although he liked the fun part of doing a series, or program, or whatever, he really didn't like how people wanted to pry into his life or the dark parts of Showbiz.

thank you!

interesting design! and i like that eventually he will become a lawyer and his work will not be related to the entertainment industry. although the kids might work as actors for a while, as you say (bobutters would be against it but maybe crackerjack was in his "daaad i'm an adult i can do whatever i want" phase and they gave up), but still decided not to get involved directly with it (at least crackerjack did).

i'd be glad to draw his design some day, if you don't mind! and i love formal wear. just a reminder. so it would be cool

thank you for your thoughts again, i really have a lot of fun making art based on the au!