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I made this last year and forgot to post it. But worry not, here it finally is; the biggest crime against humanity!
I have an angsty sanders sides hc
Hear me out
Virgil is Thomas' fear/anxiety so he reacts to when Thomas or any of the sides are upset about something. I came up with the when I was watching the intrusive thoughts episode and they point out that virgil and Patton where the ones freaking out. What if it was Patton freaking out and virgil was just reacting to how anxious that made Thomas?
So the hc is that Virgil doesn't actually dislike Janus or Remus. It's just his job to make sure that Thomas something is wrong or upsetting. Like he knows that those parts of him upset him or parts of him, so he naturally rejects them. He's like an unwilling Warden. In charge of making sure the parts of Thomas that could cause hum distress don't.
Janus knows this and knows it actually hurts Virgil a lot to go against sides that he used to (and still kind of is) be friends with. Janus and Remus are constantly referencing this secret Virgil has. Even after Thomas knows about the other dark sides. My hc is that they know the truth and what Janus, especially, is pushing for is Virgil explaining the impossible task he has.
Janus knows that part of Thomas taking care of his mental health is Virgil not constantly working over time reacting to Patton and Roman's negative reaction to them.
Virgil doesn't want to bring it up because he knows how guilty Patton and Thomas would feel. He also thinks being honest would make them and Roman feel like they have to change instead of letting them do it naturally.
Idk I just like the idea that Virgil is torn between the two sides not only because he wants the light sides and Thomas to like him but also because it's literally in his nature to react negatively to them regardless of his personal feelings.
I really like leaning into the nature of them being representations of emotions and the limitations and complexity that would bring.
I like to imagine that he just collapses at some point and asks for Janus to take care of him becuase that what he always does. Janus takes him back to where the dark sides are and finally explains the situation. It's a moment of really healing and comfort for Virgil and we get to see peak mom friend Janus. Also the light sides and Thomas trying to figure out how to navigate this.
I decided to draw these guys uwu just released I forget to give deceit scale dang it
Janus is always, at least, a little cold even on normal days because of his snake half. That's not the new part. The new part is if he gets too cold, he gets tired. And if he gets too tired, he takes a little nap until he warms up again. While Janus is in his nap-state, Thomas can’t lie. Virgil knows this. Remus kinda knows this. No one else knows this.
Feel free to use this for your stories :3
You know what’s always kinda bothered me? Those mean takes on the other sides. Like ‘Janus is manipulating Patton and isn’t actually trying to be friends with him,’ ‘Patton has too much moral superiority,’ ‘Roman never learns,’ So on and so forth. There is something bad to say about all the sides. No hate to anyone who's made one, you are valid and probably right in your own way. I think the only reason they bother me so much is because you can easily say the opposite. The most common phrase being ‘Nobody listens to ____’
“Nobody listens to Patton! He was trying to show the others that Virgil was good all along and only when Virgil was gone did they listen.”
“Nobody listens to Logan! He gets ignored constantly and he’s getting mad because of it.”
“Nobody listens to Roman! Every time he comes up with a solution, he gets shut down only to get blamed for not coming up with a solution.”
“Nobody listens to Virgil! He only gets listened to when he forces Thomas to hear him, and he doesn’t like doing that.”
“Nobody listens to Janus! Even when he has good ideas and arguments, they get pushed to the side because he is a dark side.”
“Nobody listens to Remus! That was the entire point of an episode. And all he wants is to be listened to, it doesn’t matter who.”
And all of these are valid points. But at some point, you have to wonder who’s not listening the most. Which is how I think the criticism posts of the characters came to be in the first place. But I don’t think any of them are to blame. Even when this new side gets revealed, it won’t be his fault either. The fault isn’t on Roman, or Logan, or Janus, or any of them.
It's on Thomas.
And of course I don’t mean ‘Writer Thomas,’ I mean ‘Character Thomas.’ Throughout the series, Thomas has always held himself high. You can’t be perfect, but you can try to be. And every time a situation comes up, he doubts himself, wondering if he’s even any good at all.
And in comes the sides, telling him that he can’t be bad and here's why. In fact, Thomas won’t let himself be bad at anything. Can’t be a bad worker, can’t be a bad actor or singer, and certainly can’t be a bad friend. Even in situations where he wouldn’t even be those things, he can’t even let himself risk it.
And so, the sides follow suit.
Logan becomes the perfect person for knowledge and learning, never letting himself be anything less than right all the time.
Roman strives to be perfect physically and materialistically, coming up with creative ideas that help Thomas move up in the world or, at the very least, make himself feel better.
Patton is the perfectly moral person. Make sure everyone is alright, help whenever and wherever you can, and always keep a smile on. Wouldn’t want anyone worrying for you, right? That wouldn’t be good.
Virgil is the perfect alarm system. Even false alarms are taken with the utmost seriousness. Just as long as no one else knows your anxious.
Janus is a deceiver. And Thomas lies often. So he needs to be the best at putting on a face and making sure nothing goes off without a hitch. Wouldn’t want people catching him in a lie. He needs to be the perfect liar.
And then there's Remus. The only one who tries not to be perfect. But that idea terrifies the others so much, Remus is left to pick up all of the imperfection slack. Maybe that's why Remus was offended when he was called ‘Scary.’
Trying to be so many perfect things all at once, you’re going to but heads with all of the different aspects of yourself. You're going to not listen. You're going to ignore. And in some cases, your perfectionism is going to make you look like the bad guy. And as someone with perfectionism, I relate a little too hard.
Thank you for reading.
So, you know how Virgil can, like, ‘duck out?’ Like basically, he can turn himself off and Thomas no longer feels anxious to the point of aloofness?
Do you think Janus can do that?
Imagine Thomas goes through something and the others are like “dude, wtf, what's going on?” and Thomas is like “No, I can’t tell you guys” and Janus is like “no, that's fine. Man, I’m so tired, I think I’m just gonna take five, let me know when he tells you guys.”
I feel like if one of Thomas’s dark sides said the phrase “did you miss me?” all of the Jacksepticeye and Markiplier girlies would loose their shit
I might be fleshing these guys out more- at least that is what I am hoping. I am having a lot of fun creating stories and cannons for who they are and how they act. I hope people enjoy these characters as much as I do.
everyone's talking about how janus called Remus the evil twin and how it must hurt Remus but like I feel like Remus would enjoy being called evil by janus just imagine him being like "jan called me evil today!!!!! :DDDD"
Sander Sides x Twisted Wonderland anyone?
I've recently picked up my hyperfixation on Sander Sides, and as the genius I am I thought of making a crossover between one of my favorite games and Sander Sides!
(Ps. My best friend helped with them so check them out too @kiraversee)
Virgil
Starting off strong with my personal favorite. So let's start off with saying he and Logan kinda grew up together because I love platonic Analogical, they're from the Shaftlands! As for the school, he attended NRC till his 3rd year! But after a HUGE fight with Janus (his second closest friend) he decided to change school and attend Noble Bell College. His previous dorm in NRC was Ignihyde, he was pretty much only friends with Ortho and saw Idia like twice in 2 years. (They met each other one night when they had both went out to get energy drinks from the vending machine, and the second time was because of Ortho dragging Idia with him to give a special gift to Virgil.)
Janus
(Offended they don't have yellow for font)
Our favorite snake boy, Janus. He grew up in Briar Valley, being a snake fae. Half of his face is covered in scales and has heterocromia, his left eye is light brown while his right one is bright yellow and snake like. He attendes NRC and is a 3rd year from Octavinelle. (He might have beef with Azul) He's not the absolute worst but he's not a saint either, tho if you ask Virgil he won't agree with me. He's pretty influential and has many 'acquaintances' in all the dorms so he's always up everybody's business. (Azul is impressed)
Remus
The og rat king! Twin brother and son of the famous Royal family from a kingdom not too far from Sage's Island. Childhood friend of Patton and younger twin of Roman, he's a menace. He's the second born which means he won't become king, but he hardly cares about royalty, he instead prefers to focus on "more important" matters like how to annoy his dorm leader. Who is Leona btw, yes Remus is in Savanaclaw, he's not a hybrid or anything of the sort but he sure is fast and athletic and he's surprisingly on par with some of the other members who *are* hybrids. (Leona was almost impressed) He's pretty well known for his constant pranks on other students and weird behavior other than the fact that he's a prince. His and Roman relationship isn't the best but not Leona and Falena level- fortunately.
Remy
Also well known as Azul's main source of income with how much money he spends on coffee at Mostro Lounge everyday. (Azul just gave him a card so he could always go to them instead of going to other cafes) He's well-known in NRC for the sole reason of him dating a RSA student, aka their sworn enemy. Also because of his powerful magic but they shouldn't be surprised as he is from Diasomnia dorm. He's a pretty chill guy and was friends with Virgil before he moved, now they hardly see/talk to each other. He's an older brother figure to a lot of people but he's hardly seen around anymore since he's a 4th year and he's working on his off campus education.
Might make a part 2 with the light sides!
*Spoilers ahead*
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DUKE will be making an appearance as a villain. There are no ifs ands or buts. I already made an exception to Deceit for the fact that I honestly believe he's trying to help Thomas in his own way. Deceit had to deal with keeping the dark sides locked away. A guard of sorts. But when Remus/Duke mentioned Deceit had told him that the cell he was basically locked in was no longer guarded. Deceit in my eyes was technically a protector trying to keep Thomas from beating himself up. As Anxiety said the dark sides are messed up as Remus had shown. Deceit is definitely twisted but he hasn't shown signs of being incapable of change. So there's my answer.
Logan would go in a in-depth rant on how to kill someone with a egg shell
Patton is very concerned about Logan
Virgil is very nervous of what Logan knows about
Roman is taking notes because Y E S
Logan then talks about how to use a leaf as a weapon
Roman is still taking notes to kill his brother and then grabs another notebook since he wrote too much on the subject
Patton gave up at this point to make Logan stop since this rant has been going on for a long time
Virgil is having a Mental Breakdown at this point
Roman is chasing Logan for more ideas about the subject
Logan just keeps talking
Patton is drinking with Deceit and asking how he does it
Deceit with a dead expression: i don’t
Virgil is laying down on the ground with his hoodie on while rocking back and forth in a fetal position
Roman is happy for getting ideas while the others are concerned
Remus is reading a book
Roman is confused for his life
Patton is still with Deceit talking about to deal with stress
Virgil is just in “space” at this point in life
Logan: If one of you makes on mistake on this project then i will go on autopilot mode
All the Light Sides except Virgil: ...
Virgil: What does he mean by that?
Patton: Autopilot mode is when we will be on our own for a week and if we make a mistake during that week then Logan would not be there to fix that mistake
Roman: Deceit will be the replacement of Logan and he will purposely make it worse
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Remus: *doing tik tok dances*
Logan: What are you doing?
Remus: *knowing that the other sides would kill him if he showed Logan tik tok dances* Dancing! , Wanna join?
Logan: Sure, I dont see why not
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Patton: So how will we make Logan sleep?
Roman: I dont know :/
Deceit: I know
Remus: Watch the pro do it 😎
Deceit, Patton, and Roman: Then do it
Remus: *goes up to logan and scratches his head like a cat*
Logan: what? *starts to fall asleep*
Remus: *scratches Logan's head slower*
Logan: *sleeps*
Deceit, Patton, and Roman: :0
Patton: Logan is like a Cat!?
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