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Byler analysis
Ok so I was rewatching 4x09 and the one scene with the endgame couples came up and I noticed something.
Ok so if you look at each couple, they are very clearly divided despite the expected blocking of a scene with this gravity. I’ll break down the divided sections below. ⬇️
Section one: Jopper
So the section where they are is what I would call the clearest. The air and horizon look the least contaminated and the ground in front of them only has smaller cracks. So if you look in the background of the section you can barely make out a tower that resembles a radio tower, I’ll explain the significance of this in a bit. So I would venture to say their relationship is already established, has few problems, and is not heavily involved with the supernatural plot (similar to season one). Section two: Byler
Their section is sitting directly in the middle of the shot and the largest rift, has a red looking horizon, has a heart with lightning on top of them (as does Jopper and I will explain this later as well), the ground in front of them seems very affected by the rifts. Despite them being in the middle of the biggest rift it barely divides them. They also have a radio tower in the distance, very clearly in the middle of them (probably the clearest one in the shot). Overall they are very close and have the least interference in the shot. This signifies to me that they are very crucial to the story, are involved in the supernatural plot quite a bit, their arc focuses around their relationship, and figuring out where they belong.
Section three: El
So her section is directly in the middle of the biggest plume of smoke and there is no clear horizon in her shot at all. The largest rift is directly in front of her, no radio tower in sight. Instead on her horizon is a gap in the smoke surrounded by and emitting red light. She is very clearly alone except that mike is barely in her section and very far away and Johnathan and Nancy are further into the section and closer by a little. To me this means that in season five she is going to be the main character in the supernatural plot, she is going to be dating Mike but very briefly before they both end it, and then she is going to rely heavily on platonic relationships this season.
Section four: Jancy
Theirs is interesting, in the section with their heads (that’s what I’m counting as their section) there are multiple rifts and smoke plumes, the destruction looks bad, there is a helicopter in the sky, and there is a radio tower in the distance. They are close to El so I don’t think they will be off in their own story line like season one but they will have a slightly separated storyline. The helicopter is right in front of the radio tower symbolizing an obstacle or something in their way. Steve, the helicopter represents Steve. The helicopter played a big part in helping me understand the symbolism in this shot. So I would say that they are very crucial to El and the others and they are struggling with their relationship.
Ok onto the other things.
Heart clouds:
The heart clouds represent 2 things. One is a change in the relationship, this means for Jopper and Byler their relationships will change. Why these two and not Jancy? Well let’s start with Jopper. Jopper is an established relationship and they are adults and we are going to have a time skip so it is logical to assume there will be a wedding. Also maybe a more mature change in their relationship. For Byler they have been friends the entire show, and logically ( if you are able to see very obvious subtext) they will end up dating by the end of the show. The heart represents this change in relationship from friends to dating. Jancy might breakup and their relationship might be bumpy and need repairs but overall their relationship will not change. I at least think that they will end the series by them going off to some college together and very happy. They have not had a significant chance in relationship. That is why only Jopper and Byler have the hearts. Two is the hearts also represent charged scenes between the characters since they both have lightning coming out but that’s not as important as the change in relationship.
Radio towers:
The radio towers, these really tipped me off and made me want to do this analysis. Ok so the radio towers represent a future or destination of some sort. (If you all have any better ideas of what they represent feel free to share!) they are clearly placed in front of Jopper, Byler, and Jancy. Though Jancy has the helicopter in front. These represent happy endings for the characters since they are an end point on the horizon. Now El doesn’t have one and here’s what I think that means.
El’s lack of a radio tower and what I think that means:
So, El is very obviously positioned in the biggest smoke column, which is where the upside down is bleeding into Hawkins. She doesn’t have a radio tower or even a clear horizon. This to me means that, sadly, she is foreshadowed to either not survive or be stuck in the upside down somehow. Since the radio towers represent a future/ destination and she only has something from the upside down in her section, that’s why this foreshadows that. And also what Mille said about see El’s ending.
That’s it!! Wow that was a lot of typing. Let me know if anything is off or if I should change anything. If I get a little repetitive, sorry!! I have a problem with that. If I need to elaborate on anything I totally will js ask!!!
I watched first 2 seasons of "Stranger Things" and here is Angel/Demon AU with the teens
Nancy and Steve are high-ranked angels (archangels?), Jonathan - regular angel, Billy - high-ranked demon
Random Incorrect Stranger Things Quotes,
𝗟𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘀: Guess what I’m about to get!!
𝗠𝗮𝘅: On my nerves.
Mike: Shut up, You’re messing with my train of thought!
Max: I thought you didn’t have a brain, And now you tell me you have thoughts?
Will: You have to apologize to them Mike.
Mike: Fine! But I will warn you, this might make me a better, nicer person and that is NOT the person you fell in love with.
Steve: You guys don’t know about my knife stick. It’s a knife taped to a stick and it’s the ultimate weapon.
Eddie: Spear?
Steve: BLOCKED
Nancy: I owe you one.
Steve: That’s okay. You can just date me and we’ll call it even.
Steve: If I punch myself and it hurts, am I strong, Or weak?
Max: Strong
Robin: Weak
Nancy: An idiot, is what you are.
Mike: Can I bother you for a second?
Will: You're always bothering me, but go ahead.
Max: You have an impressive pain tolerance.
Will: Thanks, it's the trauma.
Max: Your future self is talking shit about you right now.
Will: Jokes on them. I'll ruin their fucking life.
Freddie Krueger 🤝 Vecna
burn victims who hunt and murder teens in their dreams
maya hawke playing in the background, and my st brainrot, lets rant about my expectations for st s5!!
Stancy
Can we agree that their relationship was never meant to last? Literally every Stancy scene this season was ooc and made me want to puke. The only think I want in their relationship is for them to realize their happier off as friends, and to be happy with their past memories. I want Steve and Nancy to realize that they want each other in their future as someone to rely on, someone who's been there from the start, in different forms and positions.
Mileven
Now, I've never really liked this ship. Sure they're cute, but the fact that Eleven was in a relationship with Mike even before she could properly speak just makes me uncomfortable. El needs to figure out who she truly is, and come to terms with her past and her powers. And Mike? Well,
#MikeWheelerIKnowWhatYouAre
Max Mayfield
Forever angry at the Duffers for hurting my child like this, how could you do this to her.
But I have a lot of expectations for her next season!
I really like the idea of her waking up and being kind of a host for vecna(like will was in s2), but helping in turning the tide around and being an active part of defeating Vecna because do you really believe that Max Mayfield is going to sit there comatose for the entire season?
Elmax
I fully and truly believe that El is going to get Max back and then beat the shit out of Vecna for hurting her gf. Can't wait for El to keep her promise and kill Vecna again!!!
I also want more memories of them, maybe scenes we didn't see, or maybe El wrote Max letters? Also El and Lucas bonding in the hospital as they wait for Max to wake up.
Byler
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Stranger Things As Songs From Speak Now (Taylor's Version)
This is my magnum opus. Should I do 1989?
Castles Crumbling - Steve Harrington
"Once, I had an empire in a golden age I was held up so high, I used to be great They used to cheer when they saw my face Now, I fear I have fallen from grace
And I feel like my castle's crumbling down And I watch all my bridges burn to the ground And you don't want to know me I will just let you down You don't wanna know me now"
The first time I heard Castles Crumbling I immediately thought of “King Steve” and Steve’s quiet identity crisis. Steve has undergone this simultaneously tragic and liberating fall from grace. He constantly wants to show people that he’s good and valuable despite him not claiming the title he once had. He’s burned bridges with Tommy and Carol and everyone from the part of his life he’s no longer proud of. While personally he may be fulfilled with his new life he is aware that he is perceived as a failure. He had the entire world gift wrapped for him and still found a way to tear it all down.
Nancy Wheeler & Jonathan Byers - Mine
"Do you remember, we were sittin' there by the water? You put your arm around me for the first time You made a rebel of a careless man's careful daughter You are the best thing that's ever been mine
Flash forward, and we're takin' on the world together And there's a drawer of my things at your place You learn my secrets and you figure out why I'm guarded You say we'll never make my parents' mistakes"
Mine is their song! It’s Nancy and Jonathan at their best. Especially in the early seasons both of them are very emotionally guarded but learn to open up to each other. In season 1 they both talk about not wanting to become their parents, wanting to stop the cycle of resentment and conventionality. Their relationship is almost defined by hardship, growing more intimate and personal the more they take on together. In their relationship it's them against the world especially because they are an unconventional pairing. They both have insecurities and baggage but ultimately they are there for each other and are better people for it (You can pry Jancy out my cold, dead hands).
Max Mayfield & Lucas Sinclair - Last Kiss
"I still remember the look on your face Lit through the darkness at 1:58 The words that you whispered for just us to know You told me you loved me So why did you go away?"
"Because I love your handshake, meeting my father I love how you walk with your hands in your pockets How you'd kiss me when I was in the middle of saying something There's not a day I don't miss those rude interruptions
And I'll go Sit on the floor wearing your clothes All that I know is I don't know How to be something you miss
I never thought we'd have a last kiss I never imagined we'd end like this Your name, forever the name on my lips
So I'll watch your life in pictures like I used to watch you sleep And I feel you forget me like I used to feel you breathe And I'll keep up with our old friends just to ask them how you are Hope it's nice where you are"
This song can be read as two sided but I primarily see it from Lucas’ perspective, particularly in the time of his and Max’s breakup. This song is about being crushed by the sudden end of relationship while still having allegiance to the person that left. Lucas is very compassionate and still worried about Max ever after their breakup. He didn’t care if she ever was with him again, only that she was safe and happy again. On Max’s side it crushes her to keep the distance between them and she’s haunted by the memories of their love and the sheer fact that Lucas is a good person who still loves her. They both wonder how much of the others life they missed and if things could’ve been different.
Nancy Wheeler & Steve Harrington - Back to December
"So this is me swallowin' my pride Standin' in front of you sayin' I'm sorry for that night And I go back to December all the time It turns out freedom ain't nothin' but missin' you Wishin' I'd realized what I had when you were mine I'd go back to December, turn around and make it alright I go back to December all the time"
"And then the cold came, the dark days When fear crept into my mind You gave me all your love and all I gave you was goodbye."
While I am not a fan of the weird Stancy revival plot in season 4, this song really captures Steve's feelings towards Nancy. He deeply regrets the person he was when they were together and tells her that he didn't know what he had when he had it. She fundamentally changed him (which is why we should ALL be thanking Nancy for creating the Steve we know and love), and Steve wishes he could redo their relationship. The last line could also reflect Nancy's potential guilt about the way their relationship ended and her inability to reciprocate Steve's love because of her trauma and Barb's death. Also "I'm sorry for that night" is the night of the Halloween party. I don't make the rules. (Also Also Steve and Nancy dated for A YEAR that is so unfathomable to me :I)
El Hopper & Mike Wheeler & Will Byers - Superman
"I wonder if he knows how much that I miss him I hang on every word that you say And you smile and say, "How are you?" I'll say, "Just fine" I always forget to tell you I love you, I love you forever"
"I watch superman fly away You've got a busy day today Go save the world, I'll be around And I watch superman fly away Come back, I'll be with you someday I'll be right here on the ground When you come back down"
Superman can be interpreted from three different perspectives. Mike to El, El to Mike, and Will to Mike. In season 4 Mike reaffirms his love for El by saying that she is his superhero. Her strength is the thing that he admires most about her and he is constantly in awe at her power. The line “I’ve loved you from the very first day” parallels Mike saying that he loved her from the moment he saw her. He even voices his insecurities about her leaving him behind once she realizes that he’s not anything special.
El has the complete opposite perspective, seeing herself as the unworthy one. Because Mike is the first person who ever extended kindness to El, she believes that he is the best person alive and is incredibly lucky to have him. El and Mike see the other as their Superman.
From Will’s perspective Mike is his Superman. He is the leader, the heart, the paladin, and the great hero. He idolizes Mike in way which is why is rejection hurts so much. He wishes the cards were from Mike. That Mike knew how much Will reveres him. In his case, “I’ve loved you from the very first day” could be about the first day he and Mike met in kindergarten.
Will Byers & Mike Wheeler - Foolish One
"Foolish one Stop checkin' your mailbox for confessions of love That ain't never gonna come You will take the long way, you will take the long way down Foolish one Stop checkin' your mailbox for confessions of love That ain't never gonna come You will learn the hard way instead of just walkin' out
Now I'm slidin' down the wall with my head in my hands Sayin', "How could I not see the signs?" Oh, you haven't written me or called But goodbye screamin' in the silence And the voices in my head are tellin' me why"
The accuracy of this one hurts. I think the lyrics are self explanatory but the song reflects the anguish Will feels over Mike’s friendship and love slipping away.
Joyce Byers & Jim Hopper - Timeless
"I would've read your love letters every single night And prayed to God you'd be comin' home all right And you would've been fine We would have been timeless 'Cause I believe that we were supposed to find this So, even in a different life, you still would've been mine We would've been timeless"
"In a crowded room a few short years ago And sometimes there's no proof, you just know You're always gonna be mine We're gonna be I'm gonna love you when our hair is turnin' gray We'll have a cardboard box of photos of the life we've madeAnd you'll say, 'Oh my, we really were timeless'"
Timeless is an affirmation that no matter how many times they are separated and torn apart, Joyce and Hopper will find each other. It's also about them wanting to stop dealing with interdimensional threats to their families and have a normal life together and live to see the other get old.
okay but imagine dming a girls-only dnd campaign with Nancy, Robin, El, Max, and Erica
The D&D scene in Hawkins has always been kind of barren. A boys club if you will. Of course there was always the party and the Hellfire Club but you were always looking for a space where you could feel more comfortable playing with other girls.
When things become more stable in Hawkins you acquired a solid group of female friends. Nancy and Robin are your age, and while you definitely spend time with the boys, you’ve started to hang out just the three of you.
El and Max are younger than you but you always enjoy their company. You serve as a kind of older sister figure to the party and the two of them kind of look up to you.
You’ve only recently started hanging around Erica but you like her a lot and once she gets in to D&D you two start to bond.
It’s actually Erica’s idea to start the campaign in the first place.
All of the girls are coming in with different levels of experience.
Nancy has observed D&D through Mike for a good chunk of her life and has occasionally participated so she knows the basic mechanics and other random facts about the game.
Robin has never touched a 20 sided die in her life. The people that she’s hung out with before the summer of 85 were never the type to play D&D and she barley knew it existed before the whole Satanic Panic thing started to sweep Hawkins.
Max has always been a bit put off by D&D. At first it was something that was used to exclude her from the group and once she became friends with the party she would be insecure that she wasn’t as good at it as the boys were. Mike, Dustin, Lucas, and Will had been playing forever and she feels like she doesn’t fit in.
When you pitch the idea to her you assure her that the majority of the participants are starting from square one and there's nothing to be worried about. That persuades her to give it a shot.
El is just happy to be doing something with other girls. Of course she’s friends with Max but she longs for more female company. She also knows a little about D&D due to how much Mike has tried to explain it to her.
Once Robin is introduced to D&D and learns the rules she’s super psyched about playing and creating her character. She also rolls her dice really weird (big Ally Beardsley ala Fantasy High energy).
Robin is obsessed with languages so she quickly tries to learn Elvish and uses it during role play. Her experience in drama also leads her to commit especially hard (sometimes too much lol).
As for classes and races: Robin plays as a teifling bard, Erica as a half-elf rouge, Max as a tabaxi barbarian (my first instinct was also rouge but Lady Applejack is already a rouge so gahhh), El as a half-elf mage, and Nancy as an elven duel class cleric and fighter.
Nancy is the resident note taker and jots down every detail, stat, and piece of inventory.
She also probably unravels all of your planning with her great detective work. Like you’ll spend ten hours crafting a mystery that's supposed to be revealed in the very last session and she cracks it by the third.
Erica spends hours hand painting minis for each character. The detail is astounding.
"Did you paint a tiny star in her eye?" "I'm thorough."
El is that player who cannot do basic addition for the life of her (aka me). Max always has her back though.
"I rolled an eighteen. Eighteen plus seven is ....." "Twenty five." "Thank you."
El is also proficient in animal handling and constantly adopts wildly dangerous creatures to be her pets.
You might think that Erica is a head-straight-into-battle kind of player due to the absolute powerhouse that is Lady Applejack but she's actually incredibly tactical. Her and Nancy tend to alternate as party leader.
Max and Robin on the other hand are the kind of players who crave chaos.
You: "The villager seems to know something about the creature that lives in the woods. You can see however that he's apprehensive to answer any of your questions."
Max: "This guy is totally shady." Robin: "Yeah you're right ... we should punch him." Max: "Oh my god you're so right. If I roll a nat 20 can a tooth fly out?"
As a DM you are very attentive to your players. You craft scenarios for each girl to shine and show their growth as a player. You also make little dice boxes and customize. You make their favorite treats and have them in the middle of the table every session.
You notice they all seem to be getting closer and more comfortable with the game which warms your heart.
Sessions are hosted on Friday nights and usually conclude with movies, pizza, and sleeping over someone's house based on the availability of their living room.
Each girl also gets to make her own mixtape to play during sessions. The vibes of which are all over the place. Joan Jett, Pat Benatar, Kate Bush, Tiffany, Blondie. The works.
The environment of the campaign is so comfortable. Yes you're putting their characters through horrible danger and mental gymnastics but its out of love <3.
Your players are amazing. You feel so lucky that you're able to share something you love with the girls in your life and make it your own.
By the time you're nearing the end of your campaign Dustin and Lucas are begging to get in on the action for the next one, only to be disappointed when Robin slams the door in their faces clarifying that this party is "Ladies Only!".
Pov : Eddie survive the upside down and just join the babysitter club
Jonathan : You really put everything aside and came all this way for me? How did you even get here so fast?
Nancy : Three counts of resisting arrest.
Robin : Roughly thirteen cans of energy drinks.
Steve : Several traffic violations.
Argyle : Also, that’s not our van.
Eddie : I have never been so terrified in my life.
Stranger things characters as things me and my friends have say
Steve : I want to be fucked so bad.
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Robin : Steve, can you wear my breasts please?
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Jonathan : Mike if you touch my brother we're going to fight.
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Erica : I'd rather test a dick.
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Argyle : Isn't your father a thief? 'Cause he took my virginity!
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Max : Eat pussy as long as it's legal.
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Eddie : I couldn't aim for the hole, that's why she left me.
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Nancy : If you could moan silently.
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Dustin : They put a phone in my ass.
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Eleven : Pissing together strengthens the bonds!
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Lucas : I have a video where he suck it.
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Will : I drink my piss without hesitation.
Robin : *clicks pen*
Steve : *clicks pen in response*
Eddie : Stop that.
Steve : Stop what?
Eddie : You’re talking about me in Morse code!
Robin : Yes Eddie, that’s what we doing. In our very limited time, we took a class on a very outdated, very unnecessary form of communication just so we could talk about you in front of you. Congrats, you figured us out!
Eddie : ...
*Later*
Steve, to Nancy : That’s actually exactly what we were doing.
Eddie : I am convinced Steve and Robin share a brain cell!
Nancy : And it's not in use very often, it seems.
girl violence & girl misdemeanor, a moodboard
#robin understanding nancy when it feels like the rest of the world does not
STRANGER THINGS | 4.06 “Chapter Six: The Dive”
Girls girls girls
– Pink Rover by Scene Queen
Steve helpfully offering his hand to everyone boarding the boat, only to get ignored or unnoticed every single time. that’s it, that’s the post
NATALIA DYER as NANCY WHEELER, Stranger Things (2016 –)
So, Nancy’s a genius. Her shot in the dark was a bull’s-eye.
sometimes all i can think about is how max went looking for nancy after she looked for lucas and how nancy is literally like max’s emergency contact bc i KNOW max holds nancy at a high regard because nancy is so fucking cool and how the hell is she related to mike because when they needed help in s3 nancy was already looking into it all and nobody wanted to believe her. bc people are always thinking that nancy is just obsessive and paranoid at first when she’s literally FUCKING RIGHT all the time. and how in st4 when max thought that it might all be happening again her first thought after finding lucas - her on and off boyfriend - was to find nancy bc she knew that nancy would believe her and nancy would help bc nancy always knows what to do and if she doesn’t she’ll figure it out. like nancy wheeler really is max’s role model i’m sorry she just IS like. the way max looks at her when nancy is sawing off that gun she really is like god nancy wheeler is so fucking cool i dont know how she’s related to mike. bc u know that max always thinks like what would nancy do in this situation and she holds nancy’s opinions to high regards - like her asking nancy to settle her argument with mike over el in s3 and nancy immediately siding with max. and it’s not one sided bc nancy does care about max and she knows about the grief max is going through bc she has lived it and keeps living it and they’re both so haunted by people who were close to them - even though the relationships nancy had with barb and fred were different from the one max had with billy - and so they just. get each other. and all nancy wants to do is protect max because she knows what grief can do to someone and she doesn’t want that to happen to max. and i think that is just so neat…. and also they both pet stray dogs and bully mike and talk about their cute autistic lesbian gfs together bc i said so:) and mike is so annoyed bc he’s like u piss me off with ur lil obsession w my sister and robin is like shut up michael u don’t get it. el is like yeah mike. and max is like u will never break apart nancy wheeler stannies club founded by max mayfield sorry mike xoxo
We don’t have to go all the way downtown for guns. I have guns, in my bedroom.
STRANGER THINGS 4, VOL. 1 (2022) 4.07 | The Massacre at Hawkins Lab
Fruity Four
STRANGER THINGS 4.07 | The Massacre at Hawkins Lab
Listen, Eddie, I know everything Dustin is saying sounds totally delusional, but we’ve actually been through this before. I mean, they have a few times, and… and I have once. Mine was more human-flesh-based and theirs was more smoke-related, but bottom line is, collectively, I really feel we got this.
STRANGER THINGS BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION ★ FAVORITE CHARACTERS
fruity four: a summary (insp)
Best girl !
You, Nancy Wheeler, have guns, plural, in your bedroom?
stranger things s4 vol 2 + text posts
OH. MY. GOD. I'm in loooove
(fuck it, i’ll do it myself) steve and nancy get married ‘80s style
Nancy Wheeler, Sam Larusso, Marinette Dupain-Cheng, Lori Grimes, and Alicent Hightower, I will always defend you from your misogynistic haters.
Sometimes I wish that the Duffers hadn’t managed to cast an amazing group of actors for ST so that it would be easier to see how abysmal at worst and mediocre at best the show really is.
Literally all of the most beloved moments, lines, and changes to characters/storylines are due to the actors’ improvisations and suggestions.