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Theory time

so I was eating poptarts and then this popped into my mind.

 what if the king was Virgil.

now you might think I’m insane but listen.

purple is the color of royalty, worn by Kings and Queens. what color is Virgil’s? Purple.

also before that he didn’t really accept himself as “good”, he wore all black which is not normal considering the color theory that we have for the sides. And why did the king split according to us, black and white morality. he thought that he was evil cause of some ideas that he created. 

plus we had Patton repressing fear most likely, which means it would get stronger every time that happened. so much so that it might need a side of it’s own.

and at that time who would be trying to duck out of the role of creativity, Virgil. who had many fears and worries, a perfect host for fear. so as creativity left him so he could fade away, fear came along.

also cause of his black and white view of morality, creativity might of split into two different things well in Virge. so they went their separate way and found different hosts.

 you could see his hate for the dark part of creativity in dwit.

yes this is what I got from eating poptarts and finally getting of my butt. do what you will with this theory.

Angsty theory

Spoilers for the newest episode of Sanders Sides!

So after watching the episode a few times it feels like they’re almost setting it up for Roman to take Janus’ place? At least for a little bit anyway.

Here me out.

The last ten minutes or so of the episode, with Janus’ revealing his name, Roman’s reaction, Janus’ retaliation and comparing him to his brother Remus?  

He looked to the others, almost expecting them to agree with him about his views on the deceitful side.

He becomes in a way, scared, on how the others view him. Looking to Thomas in a way that begs for him to understand, to confirm that he is right and that he is still his hero.

When Thomas agrees. He looks to Janus and sees him nodding. We don’t know if he was nodding to say Thomas was being truthful or not.

He tries to sway the others views, expressing that deceit is evil and that Thomas is not.

When Patton tries to give him words of comfort, telling him that he is still loved.

He sinks out.

So that begs the question. 

With this whole episode being centred around games. When you want to add a character to your party what do you do?

You remove an existing member.

Good points! Great points, even!

Okay, I know Logan can’t duck out. That’s canon. There’s nothing that can change that. But you probably wanna know the closest we could probably get to Logan ducking out?

Hypnotism.

Hypnotism can be used for a lot of self-help things, but for this I’m only going to mention those hypnotism performer type dudes.

So, I’m going to imagine what happens is when Thomas (Willingly) goes under hypnosis, Logan just kinda falls asleep? Like, worse-case scenario he can be woken up, but while under hypnosis? He’s just taking a little nap. But who takes Logical control while Logan is out?

Roman does!

That’s why people can eat onions and fully believe they’re eating apples. Or fully believe they’re meeting their celebrity crush when really it’s just Some Guy (tm). Because there isn’t any actual logic behind it, but believable thanks to a little imagination.

I want Oranges animal to be a bull

Let me explain.

Me and @sanderspurplehair were rewatching the anniversary special (again) and I joked about Orange getting angry at Roman's red sash, kinda like a bull, and maybe lashing out at him.

So, it got me thinking-

Thomas is a Taurus right? Yeah, okay stay with me here XD

Taurus' animal is a bull, right? Yeah.

So if you didn't know, bulls symbolise a lot of different things, both good and bad, the good being determination and strength and such but we want to focus on the bad things here:

Stubbornness, Ferocity, Tyranny and Brutality huh?

Stubbornness? I mean, maybe, we don't really know a lot of about Orange other than him being associated with anger/wrath, maybe he's stubborn but who knows XD

Ferocity: Meaning "The state or quality of being ferocious." It certainly sounds like something you could call Orange, I mean he has some sort of connection to wrath it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had the ability of being aggressive or brutal.

Tyranny: "Cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control." Again, it sounds like something Orange would do, or be described as, as far as we're concerned he's definitely trying to force his way into the spotlight and get Thomas' attention, perhaps, and he's taking some sort of control of Logan, or at least he's fuelling/influencing Logan's anger (that's my own personal theory on the whole thing, but I think I'll do a separate post on that).

Brutality: "Savage physical violence; great cruelty." Yeah these just all sound like him, I mean we haven't seen him do anything violent before, unless of course you want to theorise that burst of anger Logan had towards Roman and threw the paper ball at his eye counts as "savage physical violence" then, yes- yes we have seen violence from him before XD

So! What's the point of this post? Well...I just want Oranges animal to be a bull XD ....that's about it, and this is just a random excuse to explain why XD

I honestly think it makes sense all things considered and I want to see an orange bull horn emblem, honestly is that so much to ask for?!

Anyways, thank you for coming to my tedtalk, do you agree? Do you disagree? Am I stupid.....maybe- possibly, who knows at this point XD

Okay yeah, thanks for reading, bye.

I’d just like to once again pose the concept that Anger fucks with Logan specifically because anger blinds logic which is why his eyes glow when he gets mad at Remus after being ignored by Thomas all day. Idk if I believe that Logan Is Anger^tm but I could see a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation since generally when you’re angry logic goes Out The Window.

Tbh though I really hope they’re separate entities because we haven’t seen a different side have such total control over Logan the way Janus and Remus could control the others. Logan isn’t really affected by Janus outside of the hand over the mouth, and he isn’t afraid of Remus. Do you know how fun it would be to have a completely new side just be able to nerf Logan and make him lose his common sense? And it’s not a “oh his dark persona that shares his body” situation?

Like imagine a side that shows up and just completely knee caps Logan. Logan can’t see it but there’s a side behind him feeding into his frustrations, a whisper in his ear when the others try to confront him about it. Because the second logic loses its grip in conflict it opens the door for anger to take the wheel. Anger possesses you and overwhelms you. Maybe Logan is just particularly vulnerable to the manipulation right now because of his repressed emotions.

I just can’t see this going any other way except it all blows up and logic is no longer in the building all we have is A Very Angry Side being boosted in his anger by a side he can’t even *see*.

Even better is if everyone else can see Anger but Logan is just Mad^tm and can’t see anything.

figuring out about when sanders sides should end with ~math~ woo

hey! so recently joan made a post saying that sanders sides will end with “season” 3, and that while the show is not close to being over, they intend to try and pick up the pace with the rate that content is being uploaded. 

so i wanted to do the math and see (if the length of season 3 and the time between uploads is consistent) when about sanders sides should end! note this this probably is gonna be very inaccurate (lots of assumptions have to be made), and we won’t actually know when the show will end until it actually does, but i like math and thought this would be fun to do! hope you enjoy! :D

Okay, so the first thing is to figure out about how long season 3 might be! This part is kind of difficult because we don’t have much data to work with; season 2 isn't even over yet. However, I’m going to assume that ‘nearing’ probably means only 2-5 more episodes. I’m going to just say 3 because it feels like a safe middle ground, and it gives room for a two parter + another normal episode. So, that would mean that season two would have 15 episodes in total, and we can also assume season 3 will probably have a similar number of episodes. And since season 1 has 17 episodes, let’s say that season 3 will have sixteen episodes. 

Okay, next thing on the list: how long will it be between episodes? 

We need to keep in mind two factors:

     1. How long the episodes in season 3 are

     2. How long does it take the team to create and post an episode based on how long it is

For the first one, I’m going to assume that they’re all going to be pretty long. The last few Sanders Sides have consistently gotten longer and longer, and for simplicity sake let’s say the team wouldn’t go over an hour an episode, so let’s say that most of the episodes in season 3 will be around the length of LNTAO, SVS and DWIT. Again, a lot of what I’m saying here is probably wrong, but these are the conclusions that I have to draw without getting too complicated. 

Second, I did the math *cough* I used a website *cough*, and found the time between EP - SVS and SVS - DWIT. 

EP - SVS

SVS - DWIT

These numbers are pretty close, surprisingly! Oh, and I’m not going to use the time between DWIT and SVSR because Joan mentioned that they want to pick up the pace with episodes, and I doubt that we’ll have to wait almost a year for the next episode. I’m also not counting the length between CTH and LNTAO because it took longer to create LNTAO for various reasons (they were originally going to do the puppeteering themselves, but later on decided to hire someone else to do it).

SO! The mean of 98 and 87 is 92.5, so about 3 months. So now we have about how long it should be between episodes!

I know that having two numbers (98 and 87) probably isn’t enough to be very accurate, but again, we’ll have to draw some conclusions here (I doubt all of the episodes will come out in 3 months; we all know that at least one episode will be late by like 10 months, lol). Also I’m lazy. 

SO!! Finally, we can figure out about when Sanders Sides will end! 

16 episodes times 3 months is 48 months, and 48 months is 4 years, so we can conclude that Sanders Sides will end sometime in 2024!

Which is… actually as not as disappointing as I thought it would be, lol. Sander Sides hasn’t even been going on for 4 years yet, so we still have a while before it’s over! Yay! :D

But… yeah, I just did all of this because I was bored. :P

Have a great day! :D

So far every side name has two syllables.

Ro/man.

Ja/nus. (or Jan/us, depends on how you say it)

Re/mus.

Pat/ton.

Lo/gan.

Vir/gil.

Even Thom/as and Ni/co have two syllables.

Heck, even E/mile and Re/my have two syllables.

What if the next side doesn't? What if it's like, Craig or something?

Even Apollo (a common orange-side name theory, after Logan's comment about wishing Apollo had more of an influence in WTIT) would mess with the pattern, being A/pol/lo

@metatoshi when you presented your data, I immediately thought of Hexadecimal code. After organizing all your numbers out into [1989 2419 9424 9894 4198 4241 8942], an online converter told me that while there were many characters missing, it gave me this: �$�$��A�BA�B

Do I think this holds meaning? Maybe, but I see little evidence to say anything. It could be another type of number cipher, or something else entirely. Or nothing at all.

However, something that the original poster and I noticed is that half of each string of numbers is half of the previous string. Example: 1989 goes into 2419, and the cycle continues. The first two digits of each line become the last two digits of the next line, which, could mean that they are all just shifted over strings of the same sequence of numbers.

With that information, I took out all repeats and started from the bottom up, creating this sequence: 89424198942419. With said sequence, you convert it over and it becomes this: �BA��$

Takes out a lot of repeats, huh?

Now, it’s from here I leave it up to the rest of you. I have little idea on where to take this, but take my information and run with it!

This is supposed to be an “art blog”, but I wanted to share my findings because I was very curious. :D

If you guys find anything, let me know! I’ll update if I find anything new. If you guys want to try this out for yourself, go nuts!