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I’d like to start by saying that no matter what fandom I join I tend to only support the official or canon ships. The reasons for that are:
1. I’m not a fan of romantic stuff as a whole, even makes me terribly uncomfortable sometimes
2. I just can’t imagine relationships in my head, so I need something to guide me like a text or better some type of imagery which is usually non-existent or poorly executed when unofficial. So the canon ships are easier for me to understand by default
3. I’m too into friendship or family dynamics, when I see characters who aren’t a couple I already imagine them in those types of settings, so the ships with them don’t make sense to me anymore
But even with all that I can say that I’m not really against most of the ships. Some of them even seem cute and a few of them I even ship myself, tho it’s rare
So today in this post I wanna state my unwanted opinion about the most popular ships in the Solarballs fandom.
Literally one the cutest married couples on media that I’ve ever seen. They just support each other all the time no matter what, and you can see how they care about each other. And even when so far away they still keep in touch and love each other
No matter how badly they behave in the story and how awful some of their decisions were, they still seem like they’re made for each other. They seem more like a “long-term relationship” couple to me and I like it a lot, the way they’re not as lovey-dovey and actually accept each other the way they are is very refreshing tbh. I like how Europa doesn’t try to make Ganymede change his beliefs just for the sake of her own and vice-versa, just reminding him sometimes that they’re together ahahah
Alright, this one is my favourite in the whole show. They are VERY cute and I like how Charon tries to cheer up Pluto and support him when he feels awful. And even when they don’t understand each other, they stay nice and open minded usually (except when Pluto is ranting about himself and planets). They’re like a couple that grew together and it’s awesome
I don’t know how I feel about this. They just seem quite too different. And too awkward. Titania probably liked how confident Titan seemed and now has a crush on him in the show, but Titan just doesn’t strike me as a person ready to be in a relationship. He’s too invested in the whole system’s politics rn. I can picture him awkwardly frendzoning anyone who’s gonna confess to him. Maybe in the future this might work in a way like: “we accomplished everything we fought for and now can be together”. Also I think Titan would be too demanding for Titania to feel comfortable, she needs someone more gentle
Here besides my opinion on the ship I’ll also tell how I personally see interactions between these characters
This actually seems very nice and cute in a way. Like a married couple maybe? At least when they bicker in the show they kinda give off that vibe. They could work as a couple. Saturn is very sensitive and protective and Jupiter needs support and seems like a patient guy, so they match well!
Personally I picture them more like old friends that rarely gather together anymore but are still close and supportive
Maybe that could work? Both of them seem like adults with strong opinions on life and stuff. They might have something in common, but they are too different in my opinion still. Triton strives for freedom and lack of responsibility, while Callisto wants someone to lead her so she won’t have to be responsible. And even if some might say that Callisto changed in the show, I really don’t think so. Also I don’t think they’ll do great with long-distance relationships. For both of them it will be too much unnecessary work to maintain such relationships
I think that Triton sees Callisto as his first friend and that’s why he cares so much. It just doesn’t seem like he knows what to do and how to act. Callisto could also think of Triton as a friend, although maybe just a good acquaintance for now
It could work? I mean they are best friends and Mars clearly cares about Earth a lot, so he tries to not be too judgemental or put too much pressure on him. Earth also cares about Mars. I’ll just remind you how he made the whole tournament just so Mars will get back to him. So yeah, this seems like a bromance ship in a way, which means it works fine. Friends to lovers shift could happen in this case, although I don’t think they’ll be all lovey-dovey like many people portray them
I see them as best friends just as in the show
This doesn’t work imo. Venus is too aggressive and communicates poorly. By that I mean that Venus in the show doesn’t seem like a person with a lot of social skills or even experience. The fact that he didn’t know how to play asteroid dodgeball until the tournament tells us about how he didn’t communicate with Earth and Mars a lot. He doesn’t seem like the guy to understand romantic love. Earth on the other hand doesn’t care about Venus much and is too dominant. Even if he confessed to Venus and Venus agrees (not exactly knowing if he actually liked Earth), they would get irritated with each other as they’re both too stubborn and closed off.
I see them as acquaintances at the moment with a lot of actual friendship potential
Just no. Even if you’re going to reason that by telling how it’s “canon in mythology”, it doesn’t have anything to do with the actual show. Even if they seem cute enough together, like a shy x confident dynamic and even knowing how similar their current problems are (too afraid to say something wrong/be themselves), it’s just too out of their comfort zones. Uranus is an introvert, maybe even with a sprinkle of sociophobia and he’ll feel very awkward in any relationship. He’ll say some stuff he doesn’t mean and will feel terrible about himself afterwards. Earth in those situations would probably want to push it and sometimes could embarrass Uranus even more. Also I’ll remind you that Earth and Uranus barely know each other. Long distance relationships also would be hard as Earth can’t leave the Goldilocks zone and Uranus probably wouldn’t want to go through 3 other planets’ orbits just to visit Earth.
I don’t see them interacting much.
This could work. Seems like a pretty serious ship with them both being very thoughtful and pragmatic. Maybe sometimes flirty, but not much. They share some of their opinions. Luna is also very, VERY patient and supportive and Titan needs that as he tries to reach his goals. However, I think right now they have other stuff to worry about. But in the future? I think it will work nicely.
I personally see them as friends
Too toxic. It has the vibes of Boss x helpless employee which I’m very uncomfortable with. I don’t think that Sun could seriously love one of his planets romantically and Mercury wouldn’t want to date someone who literally hurts him all the time and demands constant attention. Just no. I don’t understand nor do I want to understand this one.
I see them only as friends. Maybe a bit one-sided with Mercury questioning this friendship
Again I’d like you to know that I don’t hold anything against you if you ship anything listed above, cause it wholly depends on people’s tastes.
If you want me to answer any of your questions there’s a button for them in my profile. See ya!
Well this seems quite easy actually.
First of all Saturn: he said he wants his moons to feel safe with him and is generally seen like a sensitive and caring guy (although I’m still mad at him for not remembering the names of his moons, but that’s a topic for another day). So I think that Saturn would’ve been shocked, maybe even disbelieving, but he’d just ask Titan and his moons what happened and why. After hearing them out he’ll probably explain that violence is not an answer and maybe stay upset for a while.
As for Jupiter, he’s gonna be shocked and panic and be angry, but he’ll just feel confusion because of how many emotional states he’ll go through. At least that’s how I see it. Most likely will also ask what happened, who did that etc. and stay thinking for some time. His moons would probably briefly explain their motivations or smth like that and Jupiter would give them his longest lecture. After that I think he’ll just stay silent in his own head trying to figure out what he feels and thinks.
Both Jupiter and Saturn know Earth and his behaviour, his character. Especially Jupiter. He also seemed annoyed by Earth or just accepted that it’s pointless to teach any sense into him ahah. Saturn I guess barely knows Earth, they don’t seem to talk much. This is why they wouldn’t care as much for Earth as portrayed in Broken AU (or many other similar ones), not more than for their moons definitely.
I’ve noticed a lot of hate of the Broken! Solarballs au recently-
I kinda understand why but besides the hate & criticism, I’m just wondering and I wanna hear y’all out
How would you think the gas giants will react to the fact that their moons killed the life on Earth? (I’m not necessarily saying they killed the Earth literally cause I doubt one asteroid can blow that fucker into pieces idk)
Cause let’s be honest, I doubt they’ll immediately go on a rampage killing spree ring speedrun, it feels out of character
So um what’s your take on how would the gas giants would ACTUALLY react to Earth’s ‘death’ that was caused by the moons
I infact did not enjoy this episode/jk
LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT JUPITER WAS BANISHED OUT OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM?!!!
I CAN'T WAIT HOW THINGS WOULD GO NOW CUS WDYM X GOT TO REPLACE JUPITER, THE SOLAR SYSTEM WILL CORRUPT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
it's like I'm reliving the earth alone episode 1 or like the moon Revolution last part, even the Solarballs trials didn't had me this hyped up for the next episode I'm going to die from excitement when i see what will happen next Saturday
Idno many ppl in the fandom are constantly switching sides like i remember when everyone hated Europa and Ganymede for the moon revolution thingy and now everyone hates the Sun for telling the two moons to leave the solar system
I mean it's valid, but they then suddenly switch sides into: 'no Ganymede and Europa good!'and then 'no Sun,bad Sun!' and it's kinda annoying tbh
I loved the Sun, and i still love him and loved then Europa and Ganymede and still do🤷🏻
But this is just my opinion,🙋🏻
AAAAAAAA this episode was so much information bit at the same time literal no information that my brain and soul hurts. I'm telling you, as a non Patreon person, the next vid will be like this:
Jupiter/ Titan defends Europa and Ganymede, Sun forgives and X appears then Sun learns that Jupiter did bad thing and then... Boom!!
Definitely! You can't tell me otherwise
It hurt soo badddd to see Ganymede and Europa get banned from the solar system ARGHRHEHHEHRHGGAGGAGGGHFHGHHGGG
the Sun's expression when Ganymede/ Europa asked him that question, omg, devastation for my heart cus, until we don't know it what happened, this is my new hc: Sun was bullied by a bigger star or even a blackhole
Tho when the Sun banned the two moons kinda made my sympathy for him go away. Just slightly cus WHY?! WHY SUN WHY?!
I saw a post from @callistosposts about how the gas giants are in our Au (this one) and I was too lazy to put it in the comments, plus it's easier to show everyone how they acted in my au so:
(also the rocky planets)
My au are in era's so proto era and appreciation era and so on so (these are all made up by me so au)
As the era says, this is the birth era. Meaning (obviously) that this is the timeline when they were born. And as we know, Jupiter was the first gas giant to be born. (And Mars is the same age as him :O) And the sun is also 4.603 billion years old but google might be wrong but who knows, in my au Sun will be older with a few million years.
The young giants were like kids. Jupiter is the oldest, then Uranus is the second oldest, after him there's Saturn and Neptune is the youngest. This is only about them so I'm not writing much about the interactions between the rocky planets, plus in my au the Sun also said to them that they shouldn't go too close or near the rockies yet because it's dangerous for them because they are still forming and the Sun didn't wanted collision that could've been avoided.
At this time Neptune's orbit isn't that far yet, so Uranus and him are pretty close cousins. Uranus had a closer neighbor (forgot name but the planet he collided with some time after) who's really friendly, and the three of them are really good friends. Saturn and Jupiter are like two siblings (even though they are aren't siblings remember that) Jupiter being the oldest, he has the stupidest ideas and Saturn is the one who would always do it. This is how they started to prank everyone around them, the Sun, Neptune, Uranus and even broke the most important rule of not going near the forming rocky planets. But fortunately nothing happened, which is good because the two of them would be in trouble if the smaller planets would've got hurt.
There was a new planet. A youngest of them all. He was the neighbor of Uranus and Saturn. They called him X, because there was an X like mark across his face. He hang out with Saturn and Jupiter, he took participation in the pranks and their other little ideas.
At this time, the rocky planets were fully formed. There was 7 rocky planets, and the Sun let them meet the gas giants, only if they don't get so close. The rockies loved how strong and big the gas giants were, and that they could protect the solar system so easily. It made the gas giants feel powerful.
The sun suggested that the planets should have their own roles this is how they got their new names and their roles. The gas giants and rocky planets got their own weapons, and learned to use them, and also how to use their symbols for the right thing. They learned how to respect each other, knowing how important each other is, the moons, the dwarf planets, gas giants, and the rockies. At this time, The Sun gave the planets and moons more freedom, they could go out of their orbits and play with each other. Tho this made them a bit more reckless, especially the gas giants. Jupiter always wanted to impress Saturn by how strong he is, And sometimes he even did very stupid things, even doing dangerous stuff. Those times Uranus had to give Jupiter a lecture even though Uranus is younger than him.
The ice giants were in peace, they hang out, played together, trained together and such. They were glad that Neptune was chosen to be the solar system's guardian. He was training hard to do as Sun said to be the guardian, he really did wanted to protect the others even if it required him to be away for a long time, his friends supported him. Whenever Neptune got hurt, Uranus and (forgotten name still the earth sized planet that will collide) would always heal and help Neptune's injuries. They had a good dynamic.
X took place in the pranks, even if he was the youngest, younger than Neptune, he had the most rebel ideas. And because he was acting out, and wanted move on his own, not caring about orbits, and the solar system, it inspired Saturn and Jupiter to be like that too, and the 3 of them wanted freedom. They wanted independence. They created tiers. Gas giants = high tier. Rocky planets = medium tier. Dwarf planets and moons = low tier. And of course, the Sun= top tier. They marked their tier with paint. Red is high tier, blue is medium, green is low and orange is top tier. There were tiers between the moons too. The main moon's symbols and tiers were painted in gold, the others' were painted green, low tier.
The gas giants used their tiers to gain power, and appreciation from the others. They gained respect from others, it gave them incredible power over others around them. The mess had started when X, the youngest planet of the 5 gained more attention from Saturn. It made Jupiter furious, jealous.
As the 3 main planets gained more power and place to be the leader, the more the lower tiered celestial bodies feared them. It was known that the planets had crushed, thrown smaller planets, asteroids and moons out of the solar system. The first time they learned to respect the 3 gas giants, especially Jupiter. Because he was the one who crushed the planet, Mars's neighbor, Pantheon (i don't think that it's name but excuse me with it i only know Vulkan and Thea who i can name). The rocky planets were shocked, scared, seeing how easily they could be crushed by the gas giants. So they stayed in place. In their orbit, not mentioning anything to Sun about the missing planet. When she asked they only told him he disappeared and didn't know where the missing planets went. It was also very known that the main gas planets ate smaller rocky planets too. Well.. not X. Even though he was the biggest leader of them, he loved the rocky planets. He adored them. He hated seeing them getting hurt.
He did confront Jupiter and Saturn about their behavior, and that they shouldn't hurt them, or else who knows what the sun could do to them of she finds out. They had an argument, a big one at that. It could be felt almost everywhere in the system. Almost. With Jupiter's great gravitational force, some orbits got wacky and this is why Vulcan disappeared. Or as it really happened, got sent out of his orbit, into the sun. No one saw him, no one knew it. And also (forgotten planet name, the earth sized planet with Uranus) had collided with Uranus due to the gravity in the system. This caused Uranus' axis to be tilted forever, and also a smaller ring. There was no one else in the solar system who could heal him, so Uranus had to stay in his orbit, recovering. The Sun didn't know why they collided, or what was the real cause of the collision, she'd been told that their orbit probably crossed at one point and collided with each other.
The argument turned into a fight, with Neptune and Saturn trying to stop each other, and fortunately they did stop when the Sun had noticed them and the gravity change in the system. She quickly stopped the two and had them grounded(lol) in their orbits, forbidden to talk or get near each other until they don't learn to not get too close to each other and learn how to control their emotions maturely(?). Meanwhile, Gaia and Theia had collided, it was predictable because they did share an orbit and they would just collide sooner or later..but it was still sad.. Gaia was shy, rarely talked, but very nice. Theia was an extrovert, kind and friendly. She wanted to be friends with everyone. Uranus wanted to try and heal them, but the Sun didn't let him, telling Uranus that he still needed to rest, and that the two rocky planets had to recover naturally.
X didn't understand this. He thought that Theia and Gaia had collided because of Jupiter. He broke the rule that Sun set for the two. He went over to Jupiter's orbit, successful avoiding Saturn who was watching over the two because Saturn was in her orbit. X was furious, Theia was very dear to him, he loved talking to her and Gaia and hearing that they collided with each other was heart breaking for him and immediately thought that Jupiter was the one who caused it. X had caused a fight again, attacking Jupiter. Both got injured as Neptune had noticed the two fighting fron afar and he quickly wanted to stop it. X has been using his powers (the symbolic powers i was talking about wayy back), so Jupiter was pretty injured, but X had more wounds, consider that Jupiter was way bigger than him, meaning he was also a lot stronger than X. While Neptune was trying to stop the two, X had accidentally harmed Neptune too, injuring Neptune's right eye forever. Jupiter felt like he had no choice other than one idea he had.. He ejected X from the solar system forever. The gravitational impact made Neptune's orbit unstable, and more far away than it used to be, always moving further away. The Sun, once again, noticed the sudden change of the gravity in the system and looked around to be seeing two of his planets injured. As Jupiter explained, X was considered a threat to the solar system, so the Sun made Neptune's job to never let him into the system ever again. Saturn was sad when she heard that X has been ejected from the solar system, bit understand it that he may have been a really big threat consider that he did hurt Jupiter twice and Neptune once. Saturn really loved X deeply, and was sad that she couldn't had tell him that sooner. After a while, Uranus could heal the two wounded planets, tho Neptune did got blind in his right eye, where X had hurt him.
The sun trusted his planets, so she let them out of their orbits more often, it wasn't so strict, just don't get too close to each other. But after what happened with X and the many rocky planets, Sun had decided that it would be best if the planets rarely ever went out of their orbit.
As they had to stay in their orbits, the Sun grew bigger, and warmer, causing Venus' life to slowly die out from climate change and runaway green house effect. It made Venus devastated, he loved his life and did everything to keep it alive, he didn't even dared to get out of his orbit that much, fearing that his life would freeze. Mars' core had cooled down, meaning his gravity got weaker and he couldn't hold his atmosphere strong enough, making the water on his surface to evaporate away. Mars knew how sad and horrible Venus felt about loosing his life so Mars tried to comfort and be with him as much the Sun let them.
Soon, a new planet formed from the remains of Theia and Gaia. Earth, with a moon, Luna. The planet was the one who gained consciousness first, with a thick atmosphere and many asteroid rains. They were quickly friends with Mars, hanging out a lot. Once the little moon had got conscious too, the two acted like siblings, always bickering and arguing. But that settled with time.
As time goes on, the tension between the gas giants and rocky planets eased, as they got a long lecture about the whole things that had been going on and now the tiers they had once created faded away mostly. The rockies did got scared from time to time, but this lessened with time. Tho the trauma between the moons and their planets never heals fully. In the not so long ago past, moons were like trophies, like a accessory to them. The more you have, meant you have the better gravity. Saturn was the one who had the most moon, with a stunning 146 moons. Or.. 147. As said, there was a smaller moon. Chrysalis. Chrysalis was a moon close to Saturn, it seemed like she was the only moon who was treated woth respect after the whole situation like that. This made Titan jealous. He hated seeing only Chrysalis get the attention and respect that all the other moons had been craving. Titan had made the decision to take advantage of the smaller moon's wobbly orbit and once they were close, he flung Chrysalis out of her orbit, going closer to Saturn than what was safe. Sadly getting crushed by the gravitational pull of the bigger planet and the moon remains made the beautiful rings they know today. No one knows, just Titan. Just Titan and no one else. Titan knows what he had done was wrong and it came from his own insecurities, but he still didn't wanted things to turn out like this.
The Sun had made his rules less strict, bit he was still sticking to the don't go out of your orbit rule, as it was really important, knowing that collision could happen very easily that way.
Tho All of that is in the past now. Earth had gained life, intelligent lifeform at that. Neptune had gone insane but the presence of Uranus and sometimes the dwarf planets had kept him in check. The gas giants are much friendlier now too. And the planets were at peace with each other. Tho the same could not be said with the moons.. as we know by now, they are still treated like objects, so as the solar system trial goes on, i can't say more to this.
(A/N): well this was a long rant... Uhm.. if you read this whole thing, thanks and also you have a great attention spam cus this is hella long- also: @itsmeeleanorstill here you go bbg, it's here as i promised (◠‿◕)
I had fun thinking about this, and that the whole thing was just teenager Gas giants being rebel and stuff lmao. Hope you see this @callistosposts 💞 (luv your art and rants)
Well it's almost 2 AM for me so I'mma go sleep now, gnಥ‿ಥ
SMALL CHANGE!
It's not that big of a change but i kinda figured out how i want Venus' and Earth's symbols be
Venus: so originally i wrote Love for Venus, but now that i think, it's kinda the same, so: he's the prettiest or the most attractive of them (gotta have a more good looking design for him-) so just like his name means he's really attractive, and there's a thought in my head that he can use that attractiveness like sirens just not woth his voice, more with looks. So mesmerizing other enemy planets and such
Earth: i originally wrote nature, so this stays the same, just writing more into it: so they have the power to create and destroy any kind of life on anyone's surface, i still don't have a lot for this, i think this will change through time but i don't have a good idea yet, plus if anyone has a good idea and wants to tell me please do in the comments or just ask and i will obviously credit you because it's not my idea and i don't want to take credit for it.
About the moons: they would have multiple meanings and duties to do, like keep axis' in place, have their host planet in their designed orbits. Tho some planets in the past did use their moons as trophies, like 'look i have this many moons' and 'my moons are the strongest' . The symbols were labels in the past, and ot really showed what tier you are. If you were a rocky planet then you're in middle class, if you were gas giants & ice giants then upper class (this goes to their moons too, just they are still lower than their planets) if dwarf planets then lower tier, even the non spherical moons were considered lower class. The sun was the top tier, the ruler of the solar system, also the creator of it. Sun didn't had any intentions of making the past solar system toxic about their labels, but at the start Sun didn't do anything about it because she thought it didn't cause any harm (yet). But once X was ejected, Vulcan had disappeared (died) and the planet beside mars was also crushed. I'm not saying the Thea and Proto's or Uranus' and that planet's collision because they were predictable, or at least to the sun. He knew if Thea and Proto would share an orbit, they would collide at some point. The Sun had to take matter into her own hands so he made everyone drop these tier's and labels because it's making the whole system corrupt, tho this did took million's of years to get where they are today. The labels are still around, but not as much as on the past. Now most of the planets, dwarf planets and moons don't care about the labels, as it is a toxic thing they created in the past.
Like there are the planetary symbols so i thought, the sun is the source that can make the simbols charge, so the planets could use them. But if the sun dies the planets can't use their symbols anymore. The stars symbols are also needs to charge, and that comes from the black hole in the middle of the galaxy.
The planetary symbols makes them better at something, or symbolism something like:
Mercury: speed, he's the one who sents put mails to everyone in the solar system
Venus: love, (i don't have for this yet)
Earth: nature (this will probably change or i don't know)
Mars: war, he's the one who fights if needed
Jupiter: knowledge, he's the most intelligent in the solar system, he knows everything
Saturn: Foresight, he can see the past (or the future? I don't know i have to look up that)
Urånus: healing, he heals anyone who's injured
Neptune: Sea, he has a triton and he's who plays the rule to protect the solar system from any planets that wants to go inside the system with bad intentions.
Remember this is only a fragment, this may change so this probably isn't final. I just wanted to write this down so i won't forget it ^-^
Btw I'm working on another digital art, now making the gas giants and the ice giants!!
THIS IS SO TRUE WE GOTTA DO A HEADCANON ABOUT THIS IF WE DON'T SEE THEM INTERACTING IN THE SERIES!!!! THIS IS GENIUS GOTTA MAKE SOME HEADCANONS ABOUT THIS AND SOME OTHER STUFF I FOUND HERE--
How TF does Venus & Uranus not get enough interaction with each other like they’re similar in a way
1) Their rotation is off. Venus rotates upside down and Uranus rotates in a 98 degree because of past collisions those two went through (I can imagine them trauma dumping with eachother about that experience unless they don’t remember)
2) They both apparently orbit in the opposite direction around the sun? I knew Venus does but I didn’t know Uranus does it too huh
3) They get made fun of because of their name. Venus gets teased because his name is based of the godness of love & beauty (and sexual love I think) and Uranus..I think y’all know.
4) They’re insecure. Venus is insecure of himself because of his atmosphere and the fact that he no longer can sustain life (I think that’s what he’s insecure about?) and Uranus is insecure of his name,smell,rings. SERIOUSLY THE “what if the solar system was ordered by size pt 2” COULDVE HAD A SCENE WHERE VENUS AND URANUS INTERACTED AND REALIZED THEYRE SIMILAR IN A WAY
5) They’re jealous of their fellow neighbor planet. Well idk if it’s been established if Venus is jealous of Earth actually yeah because at one point he almost hinted how he wouldn’t mind having humans which is surprising considering how much he shows how annoyed he is by them. Venus did sustain life at one point which is probably why he’s jealous of Earth having that chance. Uranus was shown jealous of Saturn because of his rings. I think it was shown.? Uranus’s jealousy isn’t that deep compared to Venus so
6) They deal with someone ‘annoying’ Venus finds Earth annoying and Mercury too. Uranus did find Neptune kinda annoying at one point but that was long ago so idk
7) They’re the ones with the highest temperatures in a way (obviously expect the sun) Venus is the hottest planet and Uranus is apparently the coldest planet
There’s probably more but it’s almost 3am so anyways ISTG I WISH THESE TWO INTERACTED MORE THEYRE SO SIMILAR SCIENCE AND PERSONAL WISE 💔💔 UGH maybe pt 2 with Earth & Saturn? (Heh heh no)