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STOBOTNIK TRAIN I'M JUMPING IN

This scene from AVPM just hit me as Stobotnik lmao so stupid.

Agent Stone in red

(from my shadow & stone au minus shadow)

Me and some friends are having a presentation night tomorrow, Here's some highlights from mine.

i clearly worked very hard on it.

stobotnik sketches but I’ve been cursed by seth macfarlane

Seeing all this awesome stobotnik angst knowing jim carrey is def returning for the 4th one and robotnik will be reintroduced via a scene of him dancing to backstreet’s back cuz this is a sonic movie we’re talking about

some silly doodles from a magma drawing session with @madirws !! thank you so much for drawing with me, it was so freaking fun!!

Sonic: You know we aren't so different you and I!

Shadow: Yes, but the difference is that I am the ultimate life form, and YOU are a pet.

Sonic to Tom after his interactions with Shadow: Am I... am I a pet? 😢

Tom: Oh no, who told you that?

Sonic with tears in his eyes: T-the mean Hedgehog

Hey so what about the fact that Maria Robotnik’s last words probably fuck up Shadow for life.

Like imagine you’re created with the sole purpose of saving this one person - your sister, the only person on an entire space station who’s your age. You spend all your time together because again, you’re the only kids on a goddamn station in outer space.

And then you watch her sacrifice herself to save you. She gets shot and as the one person you were created to save dies before your very eyes, she tells you the reason you were brought into the world was to make everyone happy.

Oh and then you get captured by her murderers and frozen for 50 years like. The moment you land on earth.

Like what the fuck? Shadow is but a wee child and a space rodent who has never been to Earth and he already have more trauma then a seal team six of therapists could deal with, but let’s put everyone else’s happiness first I guess.

Really looking forward to some lampshading in Sonic Movie 3 regarding the Wachowski family and their proclivity for adopting strange alien children.

It may’ve taken all of the second movie for Sonic to recognize Tom and Maddie as parental figures, but Tails and Knuckles were speedrunning the found family trope. Hell, they are practically adopted by the blueray bonus scene.

Which begs the question of how long it’ll take them to adopt Shadow in Sonic 3. I’m betting Tom barely lays eyes on this edgy version of his son and is already on the phone with Maddie to discuss living arrangements while she browses online for more kid sized race car beds.

„shadow, Look at all the snow!”

Watched sonic 3, pretty neat.

I LOVE the parallels between Gerald and Eggman in Sonic 3. ESPECIALLY with how they treat Shadow/Stone (their respective henchman/helper).

Eggman's BLATANTLY honest with Stone, and certainly blunt, but he actually DOES care about him. In Sonic 1, he looks down on Stone, calling him a sycophant and stupid ("Way to go, you got that one"). In Sonic 2, he doesn't seem to hold Stone in a higher regard, saying that he and Knuckles should ditch him, and leave him at the Mean Bean. While Stone's completely loyal to him, and it's clear that he cares about Eggman, it's only in Sonic 3 when Eggman actually realizes that Stone IS the only person who ever cared for him.

Meanwhile, Gerald's manipulative. He seems to talk down to Shadow, primarily ordering him around and only bothering to keep him out of harms way during the London heist, BEFORE he has access to the Eclipse Canon. He actively preys on Shadow's grief, telling him that he needs to remember that Maria was taken from them, and that humanity deserves to be destroyed. Gerald doesn't even bother with correcting Eggman when he calls Shadow a "Thermonuclear gerbil". And when Gerald sees that Shadow is now working with Sonic, he says "I see you chosen betrayal. And you were once so useful to me."

Gerald was (likely) only using Shadow as a tool, something he could discard when it no longer had a purpose. But Eggman WANTED to keep Stone around. He IS the reason that Eggman tried to save the world. To Eggman, Stone was MORE than a henchman and sychophant. He was a sychofriend.

STONE, THANK YOU

One cool thing I think about Agent Stone is that he's not xenophobic.

Like, yes he's evil and wants to take over the world and doesn't mind ruining lives but he draws the line at being prejudiced. Yes he can't stand Sonic, but that's because he's a threat to Eggman's plans and a target for Ivo. He kind of likes Tails and finds him cute, to the point where he wants to know more about him. Hell, even the beef with Knuckles isn't because the echidna is an alien, but because Stone thinks he's so dumb and therefore doesn't deserve his respect. When he took care of Shadow at the crab, he wasn't just civil, he actively treated him well. Stone cooked for him, kept a telenovela playing for him to distract himself and took the initiative to cheer Shadow up. He even said "we're going to take over the world :D" with the happiest face known to man. Stone was genuinely eager to share the victory of achieving his and Robotinik's life goal with this space kid he barely knew.

GUN really is the worst.

Shadow is somehow able to always be traumatized

Modern Shadow witnessed Maria's death and was manipulated by his father(s), Sir Lancelot went mad, Boom Shadow was under mind control (that HAS to have left some PTSD), and Movie Shadow was placed into stasis because he was "too valuable to destroy". What's next? What trauma is he going to experience next?

And that's not even COUNTING the possibility of new traumas, fanworks which can add to/introduce new ones, ANYTHING.

The chitlins!!! Im not great at digital painting if u could tell lol

Super dap up

Movie was so fire yall

I give in, in all my years of living I’ve finally drawn something for Sonic. So without further a due, like mother like son

Excuse any imperfections and or anatomy mistakes, I was half asleep

ik I'm late but I just watched sonic 3 and the ending made me realise that I might never see these 2 together in a live-action 😔

Somebody give me my rogue, my icon 🗣, my shayla😭

in da klerb high on purp wit sum shades awn

tatted up mini skirt wit my J's awn 🤪

• English: A quick drawing of Shadow since I wanted to draw him after watching Sonic 3 (for being one of the first times I draw him, I think it didn't turn out too bad)

• Español: Un dibujo rápido de shadow ya que me quedé con las ganas de dibujarlo después de ver Sonic 3 (para ser de las primeras veces que lo dibujo, opino que no me quedo tan mal)

• Русский: Быстрый рисунок тени, так как захотелось ее нарисовать после просмотра Соника 3 (первый раз рисовал, думаю выглядит не так уж и плохо)

Taking over the Spirit systems tumbler to reblog this!

-Scourge the hedgehog

SEGA, PUT AGENT STONE IN THE SONIC GAMES YOU COWARDS. GIVE GAME EGGMAN THE DEVOTED HENCHMAN HE DESERVES THATS NOT A ROBOT. MAKE HIM MAKE LATTES. MAKE HIM DO A LITTLE EVIL LAUGH ALONG WITH EGGMAN. DO IT AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

🤨

Stone wtf? (My gay dads 😈)

The Sonic 3 trailer has left me with the general feeling of

MOVIE SHADOW X READER HEADCANONS

Gender neutral reader

Just finished watching Sonic 3 and it was awesome!! Haven’t seen anyone written for movie Shadow yet sooo.. 👀

Warnings?: No spoilers for the movie in this! But maybe him being out of character, I haven’t wrote anything in years lol

- I feel like his love languages would be quality time and physical touch, he wouldn’t be used to touch at first but would gradually warm up to it. Definitely wouldn’t be the type to be over the top with public affection. Maybe handholding or a hand on your waist in public, but that’s probably it

- Might would be one to get jealous, needs reassurance that you’re not leaving and that you love him, truly. He’s been through a lot and needs to know that you’re not leaving him too

- Likes looking at the stars with you!! Reminds me of that one meme

“Do u like stars?”

“Ya, they’re cool”

- Likes to watch moves with you too! Just please don’t have him watch movies that have ‘aliens’ that are considered bad guys in it :( Just watch cat videos on YouTube with him, he’d be content with that

- Try and show him video games! He’d be really confused on how the controls work, a lot has changed in fifty years

- I feel like he’d like the game Stray, cause cats!! I feel like he absolutely loves cats. Would also probably like Stardew Valley, Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing. Anything that’s a calm game where you can just do whatever

- Speaking of cats.. he’d love going to a cat cafe with his s/o, would probably want to take them all home afterwards though

- Would end up having a black cat come up to him, rubbing against him and purring. He’d just pick up the cat and ask

“..can we take him home?”

- You can’t say no to Shadow, especially when he’s holding a cat in his hands.. so needless to say, you guys have a new pet now

- But besides cafe dates, just staying at home and cuddling would be perfectly fine with him as a date, anywhere with you, he’s happy

- I feel like he’d genuinely be a really good boyfriend, just takes him time to warm up a bit and get more comfortable with romantic stuff

- And motorcycle rides!! They’d be so fun, but if you get scared if he ever goes too fast, just ask for him to slow down or go a normal speed, he’d probably listen (cause it’s you)

- Gets all blushy and flustered when it comes to physical affection and kisses, he’s not used to it but he loves it

- He’d also like music, specifically older songs. Likes to put vinyls on a record player and dance with you to the song :’)) even if you don’t know how to dance, he’ll try and guide you

Not really sure what else to add here! Hopefully this was good, sorry if it was out of character :’)

I absolutely love Shadow so much, he’s such a cool character and looked so amazing in the movie

AHHH you get it!!!! so sweet.

All the Shadow & Stone art I've made since Sonic 2 in no particular order

at least I think that's all of it

I love them so much I can't believe Sonic 3 is real <3

soft and sweet / how the notes all bend and reach above the trees

ahhh…. agent stone and shadow . theyre certainly very special to me ! i know the full image is sort of odd but thats just because i always do the 1000x1000 canvas on ibis and go where the wind takes me. whoops!

i dont want stone to JUST be evil in sonic 4 ok. i want him to continue robotnik's legacy because that's all he's ever known. i want him to be a more objective villain who particularly targets people who've ruined robotnik's life, with GUN being on the top of that list. i want him to be particularly close with one metal sonic and make him of utmost service to robotbik only to realize he's just making him a complete duplicate of stone. i need stone to break down desperate and scared about the idea of being his own person.

finally, after a gruelling one month, sonic 3 released in the philippines. i have Finally watched it, and even if it’s been only a day, i have a Lot to say about stobotnik— not necessarily from the movie, i feel like we discussed that enough, but moreso what i hope to see for stobotnik in future movies.

for the past weeks before i watched sonic 3, i read up on people desperately wanting villain!stone for sonic 4. this seems to win the popular vote on what should happen with stone next movie, and as someone who wanted stone to go batshit as well, i definitely liked reading all the different ideas for it. BUT, and this is a big but, i do think there needs to be more considerations when it comes to stone if we do want to see him as such.

for starters, a popular take is that stone should cope with grief Badly, which makes him vindictive of the main team. while i think this is funny and has a lot of merit for fanwork, i do think this risks repeating the themes of sonic 3. particularly, the entire movie IS about grief and how to cope with such, about shying away from revenge as a foolproof way of responding to grief. not to say that stone wouldn’t cope well, but i do think, narratively and thematically, it would be smarter to move away from a movie plot that literally has been done.

i genuinely wouldn’t want the movie to end with another “i shouldn’t do things out of revenge!” since we literally Saw that. moreover, i think we need to give more merit to stone and robotnik’s relationship that stone would understand the nuance and meaning to robotnik’s final sacrifice. of course that is a tall order, especially considering the sudden grief, but i think we forget also how dedicated stone is to robotnik. he WOULD respect and do what he thinks robotnik was trying to impart in the last scenes. not to mention as well, stone has no reason to target the main team in particular when he explicitly mentions in the movie that this plan was dangerous because of gerald, NOT sonic.

but. i DO think there could be a way we can have villain!stone in the next movie, because i do think he could play a narratively antagonistic role. i’ve been arguing that the next movie’s central theme could potentially be related to identity, especially since we got metal sonic and amy being introduced. if stone assumes a villainous role (and possibly created or activated metal sonic), i think he should be doing it not because of grief, but rather he wants to assume the legacy the doctor left behind. because, well, who is he if not robotnik’s henchman?

if he gets “revenge” or attacks sonic again, i don’t think it should be out of revenge. there should be something logical to it, possibly some conflict i can’t foresee, but it should have something to do with stone going, “well i think the doctor would do this, so i’m gonna try my best emulating such”. i know it sounds very similar to the “think about maria” plotline, but my take is that stone, again, isn’t doing this for vengeance, but moreso objectively tries picking up what robotnik left behind. (which, he would. of course he knows what the doctor would want.)

this especially can distinguish itself from sonic 3 IF the end of his arc would tie into identity, about stone figuring out what he himself would want independent of robotnik. this also ties in well with metal sonic and amy’s presence in sonic 4, because on one hand, we have metal sonic, which is self-explanatorily a “better” version of sonic. not only does sonic have to examine his own identity, but imagine if metal was made in service of either stone or GUN, and gains sentience and wants to be their own person. isn't that just a neat parallel to stone? then, on the other, we have amy, who is written originally to be whatever the opposite to a bechdel test is. of course, amy’s developed to be so much more, but i think it would be interesting for them to tackle it explicitly in the movies, whether it is through amy undergoing her own conflict or amy being the person who helps the others realize what it means to be their own person.

all to say, villain!stone shouldn’t be a grief allegory but an identity one. the line is very thin, but i think it’s okay as long as the underlying question is “who am i without robotnik?” and not “what should i do to avenge his death?”.

(also, had the idea that if stone build or helped build metal sonic, imagine if he also tried making a robot!robotnik haha as if haha)

another consideration i had is that, if stone only plays an antagonistic role, meaning he isn’t an active villain but merely an opposing force against the team next movie, i think it should come from some sort of misunderstanding. this definitely has to include GUN in some way, because i feel like rockwell was underutilized, and the weapon in the sky thing was definitely not addressed. perhaps stone’s evil plan ISN’T to hurt the main team but rather abolish GUN, but GUN employs and tricks the main team to think stone is doing something villainous against them.

if this is the case, i do think another central theme to consider is the entire megamind nature vs nurture debacle, what does it mean to be a good or bad person? one way i can see them going about this is the team questioning why stone is so down bad for robotnik, only to reveal that robotnik’s more nuanced that he is, which only stone understands because he identifies himself in robotnik (thanks lee majdoub). this also ties in well with metal sonic defying his original purpose, but i am not quite sure how amy ties into it but it’s not impossible to connect her to this plotline anyway. shadow could potentially have a role in this too, of what it means to do good after all he did wrong.

also hoping this movie ends with an anti-military moral. like everything is nuanced except the military <3 the military is what caused both gerald and robotnik to go batshit so.

and oh god stobotnik, okay i’ve gone so far talking about stone without talking about stobotnik, but i have two suggestions, especially considering jim carrey’s possible return: he is dead (with emotional considerations), or he is alive (with domestic considerations). hold on let me explain.

i will. absolutely hate it if robotnik turns out to be alive if and only if it’s shown at the beginning of sonic 4, and he assumes the role of main villain again. we've had ENOUGH, we already got to finish the entire 360 for his arc and what a shame it would be if he returns with the importance of his sacrifice to be taken away. yes, i hate that robotnik died as a person who loved him, but also his death is is really good story and writing-wise.

i think. i think if he comes back to life, it needs to be done 1.) at the end of sonic 4, and 2.) to conclude the stobotnik storyline once and for all. considering the suggestions i previously made, if robotnik were alive, i think it would be a more powerful punch if stone meets robotnik AFTER his own character arcs, and they come back as two wholes. after, i don’t think we shouldn’t see stobotnik again for future installations, but considering there would be 6-10 sonic movies i think it’s important to at least lay off making stobotnik the main villains or at least side antagonists for a while. i think they could have little cameos at least, possibly helping the characters or trying their best to acclimate to domestic life. you choose!

but if robotnik were permanently dead, i do think his appearance in a future film would be a flashback or memory, of stone remembering a time where he and robotnik were doing something that made stone realize how much robotnik loved him. something more intimate, something with the expected goofiness but with underlying tenderness. perhaps he left a final video message, perhaps there’s a scene which is very steven universe rose’s scabbard-esque (if you know you know).

also, this isn’t even considering the possibility of a into the sonicverse or time travel type scenario where there is a possibility of bringing robotnik back from other dimensions, because that in on itself is such a big plot possibility with a lot of implications for other characters that i won’t entertain it for now in this post. but it is definitely possible!

i’ve also considered the possibility that… maybe stone and robotnik wouldn’t appear in the next movie too! which. i’m not against if they bring it up in the fifth movie instead, because i delusionally believe silver and blaze will get introduced and that opens a whole can of worms for what other stobotnik possibilities could exist. 

but anyways those are my main thoughts, feel free to add on if you’d like to. i just needed to rebut all the “stone should be a senseless villain against sonic and team next movie” ideas. but you’re free to explore that anyway in fanwork lol, i think it’s fun.