This Is A Really Common Argument, But It’s Also Kind Of Shallow When You Actually Think About It. Horikoshi

This is a really common argument, but it’s also kind of shallow when you actually think about it. Horikoshi making queerness “obvious” with characters like Magne or Tiger doesn’t mean that every queer character has to be labeled or confirmed in the same way—especially in a shounen series that’s always walked a careful line around anything not explicitly straight. Queer coding, subtext, and emotional dynamics do exist, and they’ve always been part of how queer fans engage with media that doesn’t make it easy to see themselves in canon.

And like—saying Izuku is “clearly” into women because he blushes around Uraraka is kind of proving the point. That’s literally the bare minimum for a straight ship to be valid: one or two awkward blushes and boom, no questions asked. But when a queer-coded bond like bkdk is built over years of growth, rivalry, trauma, mutual respect, emotional vulnerability, and physical sacrifice… people say “they’re just friends” and act like it’s crazy to interpret it any other way. That’s the double standard folks are tired of.

Also, blaming “insufferable fans” for the hate doesn’t hold much weight when every popular ship has a loud side of the fandom—including Izuocha, Tododeku, and Kacchako.

As for the “never said I hated them” line—you don’t have to. The way you dismiss valid queer readings, brush off the ship as having no basis because it’s not on a character sheet, and reduce fan excitement to “insufferable behavior” kinda speaks for itself.

Let people have fun. Let people ship. And if you really believe their friendship is “superior,” maybe stop trying so hard to convince others that any deeper interpretation is invalid or laughable.

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No but seriously those of you who have been liking and reposting know EXACTLY what I’m talking about

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Lil vent

Something people never want to talk about is how bad the hate for bkdk gets to the point where shippers feel like they have to pretend they support other ships—especially Izuocha—just to avoid harassment. Like, do you realize how messed up that is? Imagine not being able to openly talk about your favorite ship without getting dogpiled, blocked, or called slurs, unless you throw in a “btw I also support Izuocha!” as a shield. That’s not normal fandom behavior, and it doesn’t happen at this scale with almost any other ship.

Bkdk shippers are constantly told they’re delusional, toxic, fetishizing, or “forcing a queer narrative,” and then when someone claps back with “if you’re homophobic just say so,” everyone loses their mind like that’s the worst thing that’s been said. Meanwhile, people have literally had to delete accounts, private their art, or stop talking about the ship at all just to feel safe online.

So no—it’s not that bkdk shippers “can’t handle disagreement.” It’s that they’ve had to build walls and disclaimers around themselves because the level of hate isn’t just “I don’t like this ship,” it’s targeted. And if you’re ignoring that reality and only focusing on one sentence in a post that calls out toxic fandom behavior, maybe take a step back and think about who’s really ruining the fun here.

Putting this out there bc ppl are being a bunch of asshats (specifically the ‘Fandom Problems’ community) toward one of my posts that they are choosing to repost abt

It’s kinda telling that out of that whole post about fandom etiquette and letting people enjoy things, the only part you chose to respond to was “if you’re homophobic just say so,” like that was the biggest issue—while completely ignoring the part about how people ruin others’ fun by pushing their standards or negativity into spaces where folks are just vibing.

Nobody said “you have to like bkdk or you’re homophobic.” The point was: if your dislike is rooted in double standards or discomfort with queerness, just own it. There’s a difference between “not vibing with a ship” and making snide comments, overanalyzing it to death, or dismissing queer dynamics as “toxic” while letting the same thing slide in straight ships.

It’s wild to pretend bkdk shippers “only say ur homophobic” when most are just exhausted from defending their enjoyment of a ship that constantly gets singled out because it’s two guys with a complex dynamic. You can dislike yaoi or yuri tropes, sure, but if that dislike only comes up when it’s queer ships and you give every straight trope a pass, maybe there is something deeper going on.

Also… weird how the whole message about letting people have fun and not pushing standards didn’t get a peep from you. Makes it feel like the real goal was just to stir something instead of making a valid counterpoint.

It’s honestly exhausting how much hate this ship gets. Like—bkdk isn’t even canon, and yet people act like it’s a threat to their entire worldview. The amount of discourse, nitpicking, and obsession some folks have with discrediting or tearing it down is wild. And when someone finally says, “hey, if your dislike is rooted in homophobia, just say that,” suddenly that’s the issue? Not the constant passive-aggressive comments, not the double standards, not the targeted hate—just that one sentence? Yeah, okay.

The original post wasn’t even aggressive. It was literally just: “stop ruining people’s fun by forcing your standards onto them.” And instead of engaging with that very valid point about fandom behavior, you laser-focused on one line and made a generalized statement about all bkdk shippers like that proves something.

It’s not about whether someone likes the ship or not—it’s about how people treat others for liking it. The hate isn’t just “I don’t like this ship,” it’s full-on essays, weird psychoanalysis, constant accusations of fetishizing, toxicity, or being delusional. And the fact that this only happens with queer ships like bkdk (and not, say, ships with the exact same rival dynamic but straight) says a lot.

Disliking yaoi/yuri tropes is fine. Preferring different ships is fine. But if your “criticism” is indistinguishable from what queerphobic people say, maybe that’s something worth sitting with instead of trying to make it a bkdk shipper problem.

Edit: I could also add so many ships that have been discriminated just because they are two dudes