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*stepping out of the closet*
Izutogachako!
*hiding back into the closet*
People: arguing if the izch handhold was romantic or platonic in 431
Me: fools
@lily-claw do you remember our joke now
LOL it was the idea I expressed in this post when I was coping with 431 sooo hard, so my opinion is clear lmao
But I also think Himiko as izuocha daughter can be either very fluff or very realistic study of hero families in the mha world
Because fluff can only work if izuocha take therapy and work on their traumas
Cuz if not it would be basically a family of two highly traumatized young people (a family of two traumatized workaholics I mean)
Just imagine Ochako with her constant sense of guilt telling her toddler daughter about how she let a villain girl sacrifice all her blood, and berating herself for not being able to save "auntie Himiko" and there the said toddler Himiko is sitting with a deadpan expression and is like: "okay if I was a literal child I'd be traumatized for life"
Himiko listening to her mother telling her about her gay awakening for the 5th time:
And also lmao imagine Ochako pregnant, and it's time to choose names and it's basically:
– okay ochako you know what I think
– I know what you think izuku
– if we have a son we call him tenko
– if we have a daughter we call her himiko
*they shake hands with an air of mutual understanding* (who knows how many hours it took ochako to convince deku they CAN'T call their son All Might)
What would be Himiko Toga's life be like if her ghost reincarnated into the birthed daughter of Ochako Uraraka and Izuku Midoriya?
HmmMMmmm *thinking hard bc this might be kinda cursed but at the same time, might be good thing too bc you know... She liked both of them romantically...*
I think she would be still the cutest girl in the world, also she would be able to live more happily. And if ochako notices that, she would hug her and cry like there would be no tomorrow 🤧🤧 (like their voice actors lmao)
Okay, now i wanna hear other people's thoughts about this too-
Now having gotten somewhat used to the void in my chest I can finally drag all my thoughts about the epilogue into one pile
I know it may be getting old for some of you guys already, but I haven't seen some things being discussed anywhere
My problem with the ending is actually with the audience, I literally have almost no issues with how the epilogue is written, all the minor ones I have don't come from the epilogue but the previous plot building which wasn't perfect by all means.
1. People forget that this chapter isn't the Epilogue but the Epilogue pt. 2
TWO PARTS YOU KNOW
Please reread 430. You did? Now let's compare.
a) Can you see what the chapter is focused on? 430 is a lot more shallow, it focuses on facts and tries to contain all the changes at once and looks VERY rushed. Hori didn't have much time with his schedule, so of course he tried to fit all at once and nothing at all. This chapter is more about the system and facts, trying to answer the more crucial questions fans may have.
Chapter 430 has ~20 pages
431 has almost 40 (!)
b) 431 finally has time to look at the characters up close. Why there is so much about Uraraka? Well, because in the pt. 1 she's got one panel and a couple of words. That's why half the chapter is about her now, because she and Izuku are the male and female leads of the manga.
c) Why didn't we have more of Katsuki? Well, this character isn't very known for huge inner monologues and all this sappy stuff. We can get enough from character interaction and subtle cues, as always. Despite being a big asshole and a major loudmouth (I say this with all my love and adoration guys), Katsuki is a really stoic character. And this kind of character doesn't need a whole 5 pages writing down their motivation and inner thought process. I like this. This man remains the most conscious person here and has the greatest development in the series (and Shoto, sure, these two are on the whole other level compared to others in terms of writing)
Izuku and Ochako are more open to us, and it shows in the chapter's way of storytelling
And Shoto is still the most relatable dude here, me too, Shoto, me too...
2. Izuku is NOT shutting Katsuki out of his life. He basically invited him to TEACH TOGETHER just like Katsuki invited him to BE HEROES TOGETHER.
To me it shows clearly that these two just found their two paths that don't align fully. Izuku has been teaching for years after his quirk was gone. Sure, he still adores hero job, but he already has stability and purpose and it's IMPORTANT to him. He's only been back to heroics for a month after all. Izuku has matured significantly, and I respect that about his character even if it's not perfectly written.
"Izuku wouldn't ever decline the offer". Do I need to remind you that it's whole 8 years after their school days?
Imagine yourself 16, dreaming to start a rock band with your best friend. You're both so passionate about it, you think music is the most beautiful thing in your life and you'll never be over it.
But you get your fingers injured severely, and you can't play your guitar anymore. You're devastated, but your knowledge is valuable and you get a whole teaching degree and go to work in a musical college. It feels very fulfilling to you. But your friend is very talented, he continues and pushes forward and actually becomes a worldwide known rock star! You're so glad for him!
But the time passes, and your friend, now famous and loaded, states – you're getting most expensive treatment and surgery, and we – I and our old band bros – pay for this.
And your fingers, they work properly again. You had a whole life of 8 years, and now there are so many possibilities open. You know your friend wants you to join his band and travel and rock the stage together, he offers it to you without expecting much, because he knows you have your life settled already, you can't change that with a flick of a wrist. He's an understanding friend, even if his passion for your old shared dream burns brighter still. You can join his band for a concert or two once in a while, it's a good reprieve from your everyday life. But as much as you love music, your priorities shifted significantly since your youth – and now teaching is as important and precious to you.
You even invite your friend to give a lesson of two in the college where you work. It's a way for you two still remain in each other's lives even if your paths are a bit different now. Your connection is built on compromise and genuine support from both sides, and it's fantastic!
I know the analogy isn't perfect, but it works I suppose.
3. About Himiko and Ochako. It's a painful one, but
No, Himiko wasn't haunting Ochako for the whole 8 years, it's probably a time to time occasion. It's not because Ochako is tired, it's because she can't let go of her guilt and at particularly taxing times it manifests in these visions.
Dreams are still a big mystery for science, but what we know is that they're almost always NOT about what you see, but about the hidden layers of meaning.
And of course we know this is not REAL Himiko, it's just Ochako's mind.
So I don't understand all the weeping around Himiko now being DEAD FOR REAL OH. This is Ochako's mind, not a literal Toga's spirit no matter how much Horikoshi wants his symbolisms to be literal in this story. It's still open to interpretation if Toga is dead or notnot (she's coping).
Tsuyu is so Tsuyu 😭😭😭
Right, my girl, this dummy really thought there's something wrong with her health while she just needed to see a psychologist...
I remind you that psychotherapy is severely underdeveloped in Japan. There's still a lot of stigma around mental health there, so please keep this mentality in your mind while reading manga. "They could just go and see a therapist." No, they couldn't. Their culture doesn't work like this, and societal norms aren't a joke in Japan, they're literally overwhelming.
And about how this chapter "ruined" Himiko. To me, it didn't.
"Himiko was written for Ochako". Exactly. Ochako's main negative character trait was inability to open up about her true feelings, putting up a cheerful front and all that.
Himiko was created to get her to understand what suppressing emotions does to people. Unfortunately, it seems she didn't catch this message fully until Himiko told her with plain words and freaking pushed her forward.
And isn't it a torture for Himiko seeing Ochako beating herself over her death, putting up a brave front to avoid her inner struggle which is COMPLETELY OPPOSITE to what Himiko tried to convey?
And Himiko loved both Izuku and Ochako, so of course she wants them to be special for each other and open up to each other too.
Because Himiko LOVES love in any form (pun intended), and wishes happiness for her special people, and sees how they have been holding back from living how they wanted.
Do you really think Himiko would prefer a depressed Ochako having hallucinations of her over an Ochako who's opening up and rebuilding connections with the man she yearned to reach out to for so long?
And of course I'm not about the ship. This manga was never about the ships. We've got a clue that Izuku barely had any contact with his former classmates since graduation in 430. This chapter is created to gives us hope that it'll change, starting with Uraraka because Uraraka was the one to reach out to him first in the beginning, and now it's his turn.
I imagine that it's just a start of the reconnection arc. Izuku can do this with the rest of his classmates too later, and knowing his tendency to butt into others' business he certainly will.
(Yeah, it's an actually good idea for a new tome for you Hori, not Boruto 2.0, never Boruto 2.0 please...)
4(?). This one has gotten me confused...
They studied 3 years... so they must have become class 2-A, then 3-A.... I hope it's a bad translation.
Do you trust Jirou? She certainly did put a whole ton of wasabi in his food, look at her face
Katsuki not toasting because he's the sober friend for his whole bunch of idiots>>>>
(he really has come here for the food)
Katsuki, when did you undergo your Syndrome arc?
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger guys
So working with what Hori gives us
No tgck? Okay, I'll play with the reincarnation idea instead
1. Ochako starts her quirk counseling program. She's so nervous but determined at the same time. She actually tries to do some work herself despite not having the qualification, and difficult children do open up to her somewhat. A young, bright heroine, and she's so understanding too! She doesn't see them as monsters, and her smile is so pretty...
A few cases go well, not without issues, but it's still good for a start.
She can't participate in every single case, but having a free day has her wandering the streets to clear her thoughts a bit.
And there she stands.
This girl, she doesn't look older than 5 years, a pair of uncanny yellow eyes peering up with a smile of blood-stained teeth. Her fingers are so small, stained with mud and blood too.
"Ne, ne, oneechan, do I look cute?~"
2. Or we can just accept izuocha and give our girl the best fucking parents ever. It's not about ships, it's about Himiko having two people she loves giving her pure, unconditional love she hasn't got in her previous life.
I wish I could have izuocha as my parents too okay???
3. Ochako often takes unfamiliar routes when returning home from work. It's actually fun, and also gives her an opportunity to survey the city for future patrols.
She notices a black cat starts following her one day.
Each day it seems to magically know where she'll be.
It looks so tired and weak, Ochako's heart clenches. She stops and tries to pet it once. It's fur is a bit coarse from the filth and dust of the streets, but it accepts her pets ao eagerly. But then it bites her, and runs away, clearly freaked out. Ochako isn't mad, but...
... can cats actually feel guilty?
The cat comes to seat near her house sometimes, leaves some birds it hunts as trophies. Ochako nearly gags the first time, but praises her furry friend anyway. It's just instincts, how can she blame it?
The kitty only lets Ochako feed her if her human lets her gnaw on her fingers and lap up the welling blood afterwards.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger guys
So working with what Hori gives us
No tgck? Okay, I'll play with the reincarnation idea instead
1. Ochako starts her quirk counseling program. She's so nervous but determined at the same time. She actually tries to do some work herself despite not having the qualification, and difficult children do open up to her somewhat. A young, bright heroine, and she's so understanding too! She doesn't see them as monsters, and her smile is so pretty...
A few cases go well, not without issues, but it's still good for a start.
She can't participate in every single case, but having a free day has her wandering the streets to clear her thoughts a bit.
And there she stands.
This girl, she doesn't look older than 5 years, a pair of uncanny yellow eyes peering up with a smile of blood-stained teeth. Her fingers are so small, stained with mud and blood too.
"Ne, ne, oneechan, do I look cute?~"
2. Or we can just accept izuocha and give our girl the best fucking parents ever. It's not about ships, it's about Himiko having two people she loves giving her pure, unconditional love she hasn't got in her previous life.
I wish I could have izuocha as my parents too okay???
3. Ochako often takes unfamiliar routes when returning home from work. It's actually fun, and also gives her an opportunity to survey the city for future patrols.
She notices a black cat starts following her one day.
Each day it seems to magically know where she'll be.
It looks so tired and weak, Ochako's heart clenches. She stops and tries to pet it once. It's fur is a bit coarse from the filth and dust of the streets, but it accepts her pets ao eagerly. But then it bites her, and runs away, clearly freaked out. Ochako isn't mad, but...
... can cats actually feel guilty?
The cat comes to seat near her house sometimes, leaves some birds it hunts as trophies. Ochako nearly gags the first time, but praises her furry friend anyway. It's just instincts, how can she blame it?
The kitty only lets Ochako feed her if her human lets her gnaw on her fingers and lap up the welling blood afterwards.
i love shipping everything i don’t believe in fandom wars everything is canon because i said so. “bkdk” hell yeah “izuocha” sick “togachako” fucking awesome “kamijiro” oh absolutely “momojiro” can we kiss??? “todomomo” i love you!! “tododeku” FIRE!!!!!!!!!
gulps i.. I SHIP BKDK AND IZUOCHA!!!!!!! *GUNSHOT* NOOOO NOOO!!!! SPARE ME SPARE ME!!!!!
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⟅28.03.2024 — quem olha pode pensar fazer capa é fácil e isso e tal MAS GENTE, eu juro, eu tive mais de CENTO E VINTE CAMADAS com essa capa! Não tenho terapia pra isso não, eu quase fui de arrasta. Eu tive dificuldades como em qualquer capa mas a finalização, bendita finalização! Ela que me empacou mas vamos falar sobre a capa. Eu tive o prazer de ler a história antes de fazer a capa e eu pude ter uma ideia do que colocar graças a ela. Infelizmente, muitos dos detalhes ficaram apagados por eu ser um lezo com as cores escolhidas :) alguém me abrace pq eu vou m, desse ano eu não passo :D brinks gente, mas enfim, eu amei essa experiência, garantir muitos cabelos brancos com essa capa e ta tudo ok.
Vigilante Deku who works at his mom’s corner store and pro hero Uraraka
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Hihi! This is just a little about me incase anyone wants to be my moot!
My names Cass, or you can call me Cece (a self given nickname👍). I’m fifteen! So please don’t DM me if you’re over nineteen or under fourteen!^.^
I play MHUR quite a bit.
Like I said, quite a bit (°▽°) I’m also a rapid Toga and Strike Dabi main, i for sure wanna main Ochako and Hawks more. That being said I’d also really love to make some friends who play MHUR, I’m not the greatest at it but I really wanna get some more friends on there >.<
I’ve got different mangas that I’m yet to read, but I keep wasting my money and buying more than I need(・Д・)
I enjoy a couple different anime’s— MHA, Kuroshitsuji, JJK, and Kotaro lives alone. I know it’s not a lot but it’s so hard for me to get into anime’s even if I wanna watch them, the second I start I just wanna do something else even if I wanna know whats gonna happen😭
Some characters I favour
MHA—
Dabi (Touya Todoroki)
Hawks (Keigo Takami)— I love him, he’s so babygirl coded
Mirko (Rumi Usagiyama)
Himiko toga
Ochako Ururaka
JJK-
Shoko Ieiri
Sukuna Ryomen
Utahime Iori
Choso Kamo
Yuji Itadori
Kuroshitsuji—
Vincent Phantomhive— sorry but he was SO fine.
Undertaker (Adrian Crevan)- I’ve always loved him, ever since I first watched.
Cheslock (from the Weston college arc)
Elizabeth Midford
Herman Greenhill (Weston college arc)
Some mangas I’ve got (none are full collections)—
Kuroshitsuji
Death Note
MHA
Kirby Mania
JJK
And some more<3
Im not really big on shipping but here’s some of the ships I think are cute—
Togachako
IzuOcha
MiruHawks
DabiHawks
Sukugo
Shoko X me.
Anyways, if you have any questions my inbox is open!<3 feel free to send in something there— or in dms<3
If you possibly want to try a much longer version of this BNHA ships poll...
I made one on quotev, and it has multiple choices! Please enjoy~ 💜💜💜
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I went back to my roots and rewatched season 1 and remembered why I love these two's relationship so much. Their friendship was born out of trust. He saved her, she saved him back and isn't that just beautiful. I would even dare to say she was his very first mutual friend
٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و ♡
And before you say "ummm actually Bakugo's the first person he trusted" no, Bakugo is the fist person he KNOWS in school, not trust
I feel like they wouldn't want to have a big celebration, they will invite just old classmates and other people they care about. (imagine that's where we meet Deku's dad) Bakugo is 100% going to be the best man, he will act like he don't wanna but he's actually happy for him. Deku would probably make a speech about allmight and his experience in UA. Then a villain would attack and Uraraka will fight in her wedding gown like the queen that she is (Amy Santiago style)
At least once a week I think about this panel I'm actually going insane no kidding.
In a world full of heroes, she is his ദ്ദി(ㅠᯅㅠ)
YK what I'm mad about with the izuocha situation? That as much I love Ochako she nor Deku made a move in the what 8 years Untill Deku could become a hero again.
This is what we are talking about when we say Ochako is attracted to the idea of Dekus heroism and not yk him. On the other hand, Bakugou literally helped him become that hero (and Ik that the whole class pitched in technically, but bfr he did most of the effort there)
Like izuocha is cute for sure, but with how Ochako approaches their relationship and how Deku just seems to go along with Ochako seems a little anticlimactic to me. Nothing has really changed in their relationship since high school, and sure, I get slow burn, but 8 years is ecsessive for something to just happen now.
So im hoping those leaks are fake bc b4 anything eles, I wish izuocha a better ending than that.
couldnt really find much izuocha fanart so i made it myself
first time drawing izuku so like if i missed details or anything erm ignore it!
I’m really sorry to say this but the MHA “fans” who’ve been losing their minds over izuku and ochako possibly being canon are incredibly embarrassing. I understand that you want queer representation and I personally believe that it’s very important but you won’t get it in every single show that’s popular. You guys are only embarrassing yourself and the fandom with your behavior.
Please watch this tiktok and come to your senses. It’s really not that deep 🩷
Queer Platonic TodoIzuOchako my beloved <33
Okay, Uraka giving deku a piggyback ride
Strong Uraraka and flustered Izuku my beloved <3 :D
I was about to upload a review for chapter 431, of which there must be many by now, when I found this…
I know it's too long and only the postscript matters…
I think what the damn coolest cretin in history wanted to say with that postscript is that chapter 431 is technically not canonical since it's not part of the original story that for him was until 430, everything in 431 was left to the free will of its characters so they could do and undo whatever they wanted…
Let's say that Horikoshi the damn genius bastard did it and technically created 2 endings, one for each facto bitches!… we have the BKDK ending in 430 which I'll call canonical and the Izuocha ending in 431 which I'll call the alternative ending and everyone can decide which ending they want… see? Both would be canon endings if you want them that way, except that one is the official one and the other is separate, it's like if Horikoshi had to prepare a single cake for two people with different tastes, let's say vanilla and strawberry, then what does he do? A two-tier cake with one layer of one flavor for one and the other for the other person, so everyone eats their favorite flavor! A fucking genius who wanted to avoid the hate of ship wars!
For my part, I'm sticking with the canonical ending just because they held hands, and although we can't see it, to me, the way Katsuki offered it has all the weight placed on chivalry and romanticism…
and with that smile, Izuku obviously accepted.
As for the alternative ending, while it was seen that they held hands, I didn't see it as something romantic, we know that Izuku feels good holding hands like that (red flag, ladies and gentlemen, emotional codependent behavior)
besides it seemed to me like a kind of give me 5 or a way of saying "Hey, I'm here for whatever you need, 'little friend'",
so I took my advice.
Although in reality the only hands that I was interested in seeing were Izuku's AFO hands, instead of avoiding the ship wars, Horikoshi, should have explained to us why Izuku's hands shined like that...
and if he was AFO's son then why did he put it aside as an unsolved mystery and preferred the pairings! Where is my revelation of "Izuku… I am your father"? I just wanted him to confirm my Dad For One! (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ
Do you know? I'm getting tired of opening YouTube to watch summaries of the manga and finding like 20 or 30 videos of Izuochas obsessed with believing that what will come out of Izuku's mouth in the next chapter of the manga is a declaration of love… Izuochas should understand that just because Izuku said Uraraka's name he's not going to confess that he loves her and it's not because I'm BkDk-Shipper. But first of all none of them! Neither Izuku nor Uraraka are prepared for this, they are both suffering. Why don't you see it?! Izuku still can't get over not being able to save Tenko/Tomura and Uraraka is grieving for Toga to the point of crying and vomiting! And do you really think that just because Izuku said her name that he's going to propose to Uraraka?… Grow up!
And yes, I know the bkdk may not be canon but let's be honest, Izuocha doesn't have enough material either and I can count Izuocha's scenes on one hand throughout the manga and Horikoshi has been giving us more fuel for the bkdk in these last few weeks than he gave you guys in the entire manga and even if Kacchan and Izuku ended up being good friends, I'd be happy for them! BUT-but if Izuku and Uraraka ended up being just friends, I'm sure you Izuochas would end up declaring war and wanting Horikoshi's blood!... and that's what sets us apart that while we BkDks know that it may not be real, you Izuochas are obsessed with defending your ship to the point of harassing, insulting and annoying those who do not think like you.
Grow up and stop fighting, what will be will be and there is no need to insult us damn it! It's just like fanservice to me! You believe what you want and we will fucking do the same!
Timeskip comic where they try to align their schedules to have lunch together 💚🌸
Plz someone find this poor sad wet dog’s owner
Can’t a guy be emo in peace?🖤
“You’re MY hero”
To find that someone that sweeps you off your feet… literally. 🩷💚
After 10 years every story must find its conclusion!
Im really proud of this piece, its one of my best ones so far! I really like the colors and i think i did a pretty good job in capturing the moment
Alternate ones:
They’re gonna be happy with each other, kiss, get married, be heroes together and have a family! 💗
This is NOT an iidamei drawing finally
Uraraka and Midoriya instead, this is an redraw of a old drawing i did for last year’s valentines day. Whew that a while ago. Anyway enjoy
"do you like izuocha" yeah, yeah i like izuoch-
"but i thought you liked togachako" yeah, togachako's pretty cool, i me-
"and bakudeku" yeah i really their dynamic, becau-
"and kacchako?" i think they would be re-
"and kiribaku" umm, of course, that ship is wha-
"you like kirikami too, right" yeah, obviously they're li-
"and shinkami" ...ye-
"bakukami as well" omg i thi-
"kamijirou?" i love kamijirou espec-
"momojirou" they're adorable together, rig-
"todomomo, too" yeah, well you s-
"and tododeku" i gue-
"inkomight" that's a ten out of te-
"inkorei" love it, esp-
"enjirei" uhh i really like their dynamic and think it's interesting to expl-
"enjihawks" fuck yeah
"dabihawks" fuck yeah
"fuyuhawks" fuck yeah
"do you like, like every ship"
yeah man the fuck you want