They did this during ace discourse as well. There was always a mythical "aromantic heterosexual cis white frat boy" who was out to invade LGBT+ spaces. They can't find any real world examples of someone who's exempt from oppression, so they invent a strawman to suit their arguments.
Same tactics, same bullshit, same bloggers, new target. They've truly learned nothing.
When I say that transmasculine people, including, obviously, binary trans men, don't hold power over women, there's always ONE fucker who's like "oh yeah ? But what if it's a whit, able-bodied perisex transhet man who's papers are all changed, who cispasses and is totally stealth AND is a manager ??? What then ???"
And I'm like, you CAN'T be in good faith rn. I'm not saying this particular case doesn't exist but be for real, it must be one in a fucking million. And even in this case, the dude is one outing away from having all his privileges taken away from him, which isn't the case for cis white men.
Stop nitpicking. Transmasculine people don't hold power other women. Period. If you want a punching bag, aim at the people who are truly after your ass.
I know people have come up with other words for transandrophobia, but iâm digging in my heels on that term. Yall wonât ever be happy with whatever other word we try to use, because the point is you want us to shut up and not talk about our oppression. Iâm not going to waste my time hopping from term to term in an attempt to please yall and get you to take me seriously.
So much pointless LGBT+ discourse could be avoided if people just stopped assuming they knew everything about the oppression OTHER identities face.
For example, if youâre nonbinary, you can absolutely talk about the struggles youâve dealt with as a nonbinary person, and speak of the issues your community is dealing with. But if youâre not transfem, itâs not your place to comment on how transfem issues compare to your own.
And if youâre a trans woman, you should absolutely not be talking about how trans men âhave it easierâ or what transitioning is like for them, because you fundamentally donât know! Youâre not a trans man!
And it goes both ways- trans men shouldnât speak on trans womenâs issues! Binary trans people shouldnât claim to know what itâs like to be nonbinary!
It even hearkens back to older varieties of discourse, like ace discourse. You saw non-ace people talking about what THEY thought being ace was like, because they believed that being LGBT+ themselves made them the arbiters of oppression.
Or hell, gay men claiming that lesbians had it sooo easy compared to what they went through! Like, man, how the hell would you know, you're not a lesbian!
Just. Stop! Stop talking about the assumed experiences of other people! Being one flavor of queer doesnât mean youâre the expert on ALL queer oppression! LISTEN to other people, stop talking over them!
I think if people accepted this, 90% of stupid online identity discourse would vanish overnight.
Good lord. If you say a trans woman is secretly a man, you are misgendering her, which means you are being transmisogynistic.
It's not that complicated.
it's such a timeline we live in
It definitely shouldnât escape anyoneâs notice that the majority of âtransandrophobia isnât real and tme/tma language is good actuallyâ people are white. Like there is very much something to be said about a complete lack of awareness of non-white queer people existing, whether they acknowledge it or not. I know full well that everyone posting âtrans men are just whiny little uwu soft babies complaining about nothingâ are imagining a monolith of trans men/mascs who are all white and will not acknowledge the intersections of oppression that trans moc face. âAll trans men have power over cis and trans womenâ even when the women in question are white. When asked about transphobia facing trans poc, they will mention maybe one or two black trans women theyâre able to name to make themselves look like they care about black issues and never mention a single other trans person of colour. Quick, average white tumblr user, name a single black trans man. Name a single black trans male or non-binary artist right now.
there are people on bluesky who proudly put on their profiles being "baeddel" like, that shit didn't work here in the 2010s tumblr (where it originated), so why the fuck are you trying to make it come back, lmao
actually i wouldn't be surprised if this-certain-group of trans ppl on bluesky are actually all baeddels but just not saying it out loud.
seeing them all still talking about "cissexual" privilege when refering to other TRANS ppl, the classic "you are trans but NOT REALLY trans like me", im just gonna say, be careful with this kind of thinking.
for context:
no, being "baeddel" is not good AT ALL. please, don't let anyone tell you otherwise bc, holy fuck, just read the whole thing and be wary. it's pretty much TERF rethoric, only trans version (also known as TIRF), lmao
i found out about this whole "baeddel" around the end of last year, and it was like "woah what the fuck??????" i had no idea this kind of shit happened. please, read it in full đŠđŠ
(edit: an updated version of this article is also here on tumblr!!)
the thing that pisses me off the most about this whole "haha trans men in womens bathrooms will make them reconsider" spin going around is that it basically pretends trans men and mascs of color dont exist and arent in very real danger
like, think about for even one second how, historically, white women have weaponized the perception of moc as inherently masculinely savage to get them killed for being threats to fragile helpless white girls
do you think the lady who calls 911 on black men birdwatching in the park is going to see a trans man of color in the womans bathroom and go "gosh! i never thought about it that way. you've really exposed the flaw in my arguement"? no. shes going to call security and that man will be brutalized or killed
(and dont even for a second think that woc will be safe either. i was getting side eyes and pointed questions long before i ever came out because my skin was brown and i had short hair. tmoc and our sisters arent fucking safe and we deserve better than being used as some white posters pithy "gotchya")
I love you trans men, if you're a man and you're trans you are automatically cool actually, I love transmascs
Oh! Apparently transandrophobes are now being very mask off with the fact that they are the same community as truscum/transmeds, 2019 exclus, and every other "grrr other queer people" group!
If you call someone a "transandrobro" for calling out bigotry, I'm going to turn your kneecaps into dust.
Nix, They/Them, Queer, 20s Sporadically active.Do not gender me.
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