Are we sure that eric bogosian isn't actually daniel "only went to gay bars for drugs totally not looking to get pounded in the ass" molloy?
(this is part of a larger more serious discussion about the AIDS crisis but the way he just?? casually mentions this?? in an interview??? is insane to me)
Armand is not an iPad Baby, he is an iPad Grandpa and I will stand this mistaken understanding no longer.
i didn't get a minor in art history for no reason, so let's talk about
The Adoration of the Shepherds with a Donor by Palma Vecchio, c. 1520-1525 (held at the Louvre under the French name L'Adoration des bergers avec une donatrice, here's its collection details)
What's fascinating about this painting (done in the very very late High Renaissance to early Mannerism) is that the identity of the commissioner of the painting is the one kneeling to the far right, who Armand in the episode says is modeled by him, is actually unknown. (So that makes it very handy for the show to claim it's Armand without actually being inaccurate or anachronistic)
What this depicts is the Christmas story (though yes, I know, it doesn't look like Christmastime in the painting) where the shepherds pay Jesus a visit after he's born. There's a lark sitting in the window on the left, which often symbolizes rebirth, and there's a dog all the way to the very right, which usually symbolizes loyalty.
Of course, within the IWTV verse, the choice of using this painting (which doesn't have much, if any literature on it by itself--maybe because for a long time it was attributed to the painter Titian by mistake instead of Vecchio) is extremely fascinating to me. There's a lot of dimensions here: most notably, as another user I saw pointed out, Armand was the model for this, and the painter (Marius de Romanus in the show, Armand's maker) whitewashes Armand. Now, Armand is immortalized in room 711 in the Louvre forever as a 20 year old, looking nothing like himself, his identity effectively completely erased, while thousands of people pass and see this painting every year.
It raises a lot of poignant questions, also: since the commissioner of real life (who is the real life model) doesn't exist in IWTV, what is the motivation for Marius to paint Armand in a Christ scene? Because obviously, Armand would not have commissioned this painting. What spurs him to do that? Since the real life artist, Vecchio, was very influenced by Titian at the point when this painting was made, was Marius also? I really do want to know the team's thought process behind choosing this painting, because it's endlessly interesting to me. It's definitely one of the lesser known works in the Louvre, even just a cursory glance over JSTOR barely has any information. I might literally email my art history professors and ask if they have any material on this or Vecchio because I'm so intrigued... anyone else wanna discuss <3?
"Arthur Morgan would shoot you just for breathing around him"
Arthur in the game:
[made this compilation for myself as a bday gift but y'all can have it too]
Daniel is a needy bastard who needs to have Armand in every single way possible.
they did not need to be making all those sounds in front of daniel at the dinner table
the term daniel uses to refer to himself, "minion," having a different modern & archaic definition reflects their relationship so well
daniel who believes himself to have been nothing but a plaything who followed armand about for a decade and can be discarded easily, vs armand who loves daniel so much he doesn't want to keep living if he dies
He/him tired girl 🌟 Obsessed with IWTV (especially when it comes to Devil's Minion) 🌟 English isn't my first language
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