So Much Pointless LGBT+ Discourse Could Be Avoided If People Just Stopped Assuming They Knew Everything

"Trans men don't suffer as much because they're always forgotten and erased. So they don't have it as bad" I mean can you really argue that we are forgotten when you actively push us out of conversations and tell us we don't matter? Do we really not have it as bad, or do you just turn the other way when we are raped, beaten, brutalized, and murdered? Why is it always framed in a passive way, that we are just erased as if by accident, when we are scrubbed from history? Buried entirely or otherwise portrayed as women?

Why is our erasure discussed like there's nothing to be done about it, when all it takes to change that is to start listening to us?

That's because a certain contingent of these folks think that tranny is a term only trans women get to claim since, apparently, trans mascs are never the victim of this word (they say, while calling us shit like trannyboy as if adding the word boy to it makes it not the same word)

just straight up mask off transandrophobia. this post was made by a cisgender woman

Hello! Local fascism expert here, and I'm gonna be talking about a common transandrophobic theme that I see a lot, and how it's actually a sign of fascism!

I'd like to introduce you to the philosopher/medievalist/social commentator Umberto Eco. He grew up in Fascist Italy under Mussolini, the OG Fascist (he literally invented the term).

Eco wrote an essay titled "Ur-Fascism" which has a list of 14 "criteria" or "features" that you'll see in fascist regimes

You can find a translated copy of this book here (as the original was in Italian)

I'd like to point you to point 8, pasted here for your ease of reading:

The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.

An element of fascism is painting those you see as the "enemy" or "inferiors" (here, Jewish people) as both "ultra powerful", and "weak" at the same time. Another modern example is what Americans saw with Trump painting Biden as this ultra powerful, scheming mastermind who rigged elections in his favor, as well as a senile old fart who can't tell his hands from his feet. Strong... but weak.

Now, what other group of people are painted as both these ultra powerful monsters who hold power, privilege, and are sexual and violent predators, while also being weak, pathetic, little softbois who contribute nothing to the world?

Time and time again, you see trans men and transmascs painted as evil predators who are a threat, while also being "weak, frail, ex-women". This is legitimate fascist rhetoric, and I'm surprised that nobody else has picked up on the direct link between this contradiction and the emerging threat (or existing threat) of fascism that we see every single day.

Hell, there's a few other traits in that essay that fit their rhetoric as well, but I wanted to keep this post focused on the most commonly seen one.

So, yeah, TMA/TME users really are only one step away from being fascists (if anything, they're fascism enablers), and they need to realize this before it's too late.

"Transmascs are 3 months away from becoming detrans terfs" and then all the posts about transmascs are "kill yourselves" and "transmascs are disgusting evil wannabe privileged males and they should all die" and "masculinity is disgusting and anyone who isn't a feminine person is not welcome in the community". I wonder why transmascs detransition btw. I wonder why it's so easy to radicalize a group of people who gets shit from their own community and also has to deal with transphobia from the real life world along with SAAB based oppression. One can only wonder.

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If your argument is that transmascs had no place in trans culture in its beginning stages...

you should be WAY more concerned about what was happening to your transmasc siblings during those stages, than any kind of 'gotcha'

(Credit to @zaebeecee)

The "read another book" crowd when you suggest that maaaaybe whipping girl doesn't hold up all that well in light of the author's endorsement of trans radical feminism:

Genuinely, there is nothing wrong with a trans guy headcanoning a female character as a trans man. We’re allowed to have our headcanons and see ourselves in our favourite characters. It is not misogynistic and it is not erasing women. That is the exact argument that TERFs use about real life trans men taking away real life women or lesbians or whatever it is they’ve been fearmongering about, so don’t start spreading that shit around fandom spaces like it’s progressive.

This doesn’t just happen in fandoms either, we literally never get to claim anyone as a trans man. Every time there’s historical evidence of trans men existing, we have to always assume that maybe they were actually a woman who was just “escaping” the patriarchy because god forbid we ever point out that they were most likely a trans man. If we do, then we get pushback over “erasing their womanhood” but what about their transness? Why are you allowed to erase their transness in the name of feminism? I agree that female historical figures deserve more recognition, but not at the expense of taking historical figures away from us. We can have both. We should have both, because both are marginalised people who deserve representation. We’re not taking anything away from you, so why the fuck should you be able to take representation away from us.

Trans male headcanons are not anti-feminist. They’re not erasing a woman to make way for a man. They’re representation that a marginalised group of people deserve to have, because we already have so little in the first place. Why are you physically incapable of viewing trans men as different to cis men when it comes to our experiences with oppression.

No one is ever actually in trans men's corner. We're freaks and stupid little girls to the right. We're gender traitors to the left. If we say anything, we're sexist, misogynistic liars, at best. White trans men eventually die from su*cide. Trans men of color die from worse. And then we're erased from history - any impact on the world rewritten as having been done by cis women. The feminist movement seems to have moved backwards and trans men are now excluded except for being the safe punching bag. We'll eventually disappear and shut up though, not because we're were told to our entire youth or after we transition to the wrong kind of man, but because we're tired.

I'm tired.

I'm just gonna say it: people using the term "transandrobros" gives me the exact same vibe as people saying "feminazis".

Please stop forgetting nonbinary people!

Theyfab isn't a transmasc-specific slur. It's always been used against any nonbinary person assumed to be AFAB.

Though the AGAB of nonbinary people is nobody's business in the first place, it bears repeating that not every AFAB nonbinary person is transmasculine, just as not every AMAB nonbinary person is transfeminine.

These bigots aren't just transphobic towards trans men/mascs, they're exorsexist as well. We'll be stronger if we stick up for each other and push back against them together!