That's Because A Certain Contingent Of These Folks Think That Tranny Is A Term Only Trans Women Get To

Please stop forgetting nonbinary people!

Theyfab isn't a transmasc-specific slur. It's always been used against any nonbinary person assumed to be AFAB.

Though the AGAB of nonbinary people is nobody's business in the first place, it bears repeating that not every AFAB nonbinary person is transmasculine, just as not every AMAB nonbinary person is transfeminine.

These bigots aren't just transphobic towards trans men/mascs, they're exorsexist as well. We'll be stronger if we stick up for each other and push back against them together!

the fact a lot of trfs are MLs is further proof Marxist-Leninists are just fascists trying to redirect socialist efforts away from destroying the bourgeoisie

Me: *sees a good anti-jkr post pointing out that its still fucked up to interact with the fandom*

Me: yeah I agree it's not great and it signals to--

Post: Also I noticed it's mostly transmascs ://// I don't think there's even a single trans woman in the fandom :///// that says a lot ://////

Me:

Me: ah, you're not actually here for the discussion about jkr's hate and how it harms the community. You're just here to shit on trans guys. Damnit.

The way some of you people treat trans men and transmascs is reprehensible.

Fascists won't spare you for kissing the boots that they're putting on your trans sibling's necks.

No guys you don't get it I was joking when I said all men especially trans mascs should die I wasn't actually targeting a minority with hate, it was satire when I said specifically what awful things should happen to them for being men I was doing it for the theatrics when I used transphobic talking points and called them future terfs and Nazis it was literally just for the bit guys cmon nobody can take a joke any more how is it not the same as this joke about hurting an oppressor when I come up with funny statements suggesting I want to violently hurt and/or kill an entire minority for being trans masc?

So much pointless LGBT+ discourse could be avoided if people just stopped assuming they knew everything about the oppression OTHER identities face.

For example, if you’re nonbinary, you can absolutely talk about the struggles you’ve dealt with as a nonbinary person, and speak of the issues your community is dealing with. But if you’re not transfem, it’s not your place to comment on how transfem issues compare to your own.

And if you’re a trans woman, you should absolutely not be talking about how trans men “have it easier” or what transitioning is like for them, because you fundamentally don’t know! You’re not a trans man!

And it goes both ways- trans men shouldn’t speak on trans women’s issues! Binary trans people shouldn’t claim to know what it’s like to be nonbinary!

It even hearkens back to older varieties of discourse, like ace discourse. You saw non-ace people talking about what THEY thought being ace was like, because they believed that being LGBT+ themselves made them the arbiters of oppression.

Or hell, gay men claiming that lesbians had it sooo easy compared to what they went through! Like, man, how the hell would you know, you're not a lesbian!

Just. Stop! Stop talking about the assumed experiences of other people! Being one flavor of queer doesn’t mean you’re the expert on ALL queer oppression! LISTEN to other people, stop talking over them!

I think if people accepted this, 90% of stupid online identity discourse would vanish overnight.

Hello, here to remind people that this discourse is hurting nonbinary people as well, especially nonbinary transmascs.

Please include your nonbinary siblings in your advocacy, and don’t forget to uplift their voices as well. The assholes calling people “theyfabs” and denying the existence of transandrophobia aren’t just out to get trans men.

Half the posts I see are about "theyfab trender tme they/hes", they hate nonbinary people too.

Trans men are left out of the conversation far too often; please don't repeat the same mistake with a different group.

"Transmascs are 3 months away from becoming detrans terfs" and then all the posts about transmascs are "kill yourselves" and "transmascs are disgusting evil wannabe privileged males and they should all die" and "masculinity is disgusting and anyone who isn't a feminine person is not welcome in the community". I wonder why transmascs detransition btw. I wonder why it's so easy to radicalize a group of people who gets shit from their own community and also has to deal with transphobia from the real life world along with SAAB based oppression. One can only wonder.

being a trans man means you grow up being belittled and mocked for the way you were born and being told that the way you were born means you're stupid and and less artistic and less funny and your interests are cringe and you're not as capable as other people

and in if you say 'hey it's actually fucked up to treat me like that' then they say 'sit down and shut up and listen to the men. we know better'

and then you come out

and you get belittled and mocked for the way you were born and being told that the way you were born means you're stupid and and less artistic and less funny and your interests are cringe and you're not as capable as other people but this time it's because 'haha men are so lame and cringe and dumb'

and in if you say 'hey it's actually fucked up to treat me like that' then they say 'sit down and shut up and listen to the women. we know better'

and you are not allowed to point this out because then a significant number of people will lose their convenient punching bag

women (including trans and/or queer women) have the capacity to be misogynistic towards trans men. we are being treated as if we are little girls on this app. the word "transmisogyny" is something i see a lot more than the word "transphobia" recently. while it's okay and encouraged to talk about transmisogyny, i feel like trans men are being excluded for no reason on many posts. experiences that are actually had by all/most trans people are said to be exclusive to trans women. so then we try for transandrophobia and get shut down because trans men can't be oppressed, apparently. usually, i try to educate myself and listen as much as possible, but it's been monthssssss of this on tumblr. i feel like i'm being spoon-fed lessons on my own oppression, and i can't get down from the high chair...