Hey! I really like your posts.(Sorry for my bad Englishđđđ) And I feel so awkward asking you something..đ Well, in general I was interested. Thomas is a very closed person and I was interested if it is AT ALL possible to get closer to him. Like, is this even possible? What would he value in a person? Or maybe there would be some rules when communicating with him and his family? Sorry if my question sounds stupidđ
Hi! Don't worry, your English is very good! This question isn't stupid at all - I think it's wonderful! Plus, it gives me more to work with which I always appreciate. I took this as an opportunity to introduce what life would be like as a Hewitt "guest" - Which I will expand on in future posts đ«
Yay! Youâve survived the Hewitts - A real accomplishment if you ask me. Sure, youâre scratched up, bleeding, and traumatized but youâre alive, arenât you? {Wouldâve been better to die, but..canât do much about that now.}
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Communicating with the family? That's not gonna be as hard. Submission and respect is what they accept - Nothing but.Â
First of all, youâre not automatically âfamilyâ just because you survived - Youâre a âguestâ captive. Youâll join them for dinner, you will NOT interrupt prayer; Youâll do chores, specifically the tedious or strenuous ones: Cleaning bathrooms, helping with laundry, dusting {the house definitely needs it}, getting Thomas for dinner, tending to the animals, dishes, ironing clothes - Anything to help the family. You will do as youâre told. If you donât, they wonât hesitate to penalize you.Â
Be prepared to give up all your belongings and morals. Everything they want, theyâll get. Books, clothing, food, MONEY, itâs theirs. If you have weapons, Hoyt is taking those IMMEDIATELY - Theyâre his now. Â
You will eat. Do not waste food, time, money, anything. The Hewitts have little as is, donât decrease their chances of survival.Â
If youâre fem-presenting, watch for Hoyt and Monty. Both are sexual deviants with no respect for women outside the family. From what Iâve seen in the films, Hoyt tends to prefer blondes - I donât see Monty as caring too much. Just like he did with Erin, Monty will ask for âhelpâ when you two are alone.Â
âCan you help me grab that?â - âCould you help me get up?â - âCould you pick this up for me?âÂ
Anything that gives him room to grope. Heâll try to trip you and lift your clothes with his cane, too.Â
Back to Hoyt,
Hoytâs a piece of shit, but heâs not as bad once youâre âfamily.â Itâll start off very rocky - Calling you slurs, being physically, verbally, mentally, emotionally abusive, trying to grope and rub-up you {if youâre fem-presenting}, VERY little trust, and lots of belittling remarks.Â
âI donât know what {whoever spared you} saw in youâ - âOne word, and Iâll get Tommy to chop your pretty ass up nâ serve you on this very dining tableâ - âWhat the hell are you doing? You ainât doing it right..assholeâ - Lots of comparisons to livestock and hookers, and lots of âyou fucking idiot!â
Once he's gotten used to you, he'll respect you a bit more. {If you've gotten close to Luda Mae or Thomas, he'll calm down}. If you're not a straight white woman, he'll call you a slur and frame it as a joke - It's not. He respects those who're part of the family, but that doesn't mean he wont ridicule you when you {or a victim} pisses him off. The easiest way to gain his respect is work. When he sees you working your ass off for the family, he'll slowly but surely gain respect for you. It may not seem like it, but Hoyt Charlie does care. He'll protect you from whatever once you're part of the family..but he'll still be 'tough love'.
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Youâll have the best luck with Henrietta - Sheâs the least likely to get violent or judgy if you arenât judgemental to her. You wonât see her too often - But when you do, donât get confrontational {this goes for every family member}. The Tea Lady {Kathryn} Wonât do much harm either. Sheâs not too confrontational, only minor teasing with other family members. When she comes over for tea with Luda Mae, donât interrupt unless youâre spoken to.
OFFER AS MUCH AS YOU CAN !! If you see Luda doing housework, offer to help. At the scene around 1:12:00 in TCM: The Beginning, when Hoytâs in the kitchen with Luda Mae - At around 1:12:20 when she says âIâll go set the tableâ, it would be best if YOU offered to set the table. Preferably before she announces that she will. Recognize their routine, incorporate yourself by helping out when you can.Â
One of the biggest, most influential things you could do is warn the family when something happens. For example; in TCM:The Beginning, at around 1:16:55 {when Chrissie grabs the knife?} You should immediately either A.) Tell Hoyt; Or B.) Run after/Yell for Thomas. This will prove to them that you care about the family, their safety, and how they operate. That will automatically bring you closer to becoming a âmemberâ of the family.Â
Itâs easier to become part of the family if youâre: A woman {Luda wants a daughter}, a Christian, submissive, quiet, hardworking, or NICE TO THOMAS !!Â
This doesnât mean you have to compliment Thomas or be attracted to him - Just donât alienate him, stare excessively, or give him judgmental looks / remarks.Â
{if youâve gotten close to Luda Mae}Â
When she starts talking about Tommy, thatâs a good sign. ESPECIALLY in relation to you.
âY'know, Tommyâs really starting to take a liking to you.â = Heâs stayed up thinking about you.Â
If she ever sends you to get Thomas, sheâs trying to set you two up / get you two closer. If she likes you, sheâll connect you with Thomas.Â
Sheâs pretty kind to you - But sheâs still strict. No wasting food, no defiance, no secrets, no shaming of the family {especially Thomas}, do as youâre told. If youâre not busy, sheâll invite you to join her and Kathryn for tea sometimes. {Especially if youâre in a relationship with Thomas, they wanna know everything most things}.Â
Jedidiah just wants a friend. He's a lonely boy who will happily draw you {please praise it, he needs some.} He gets hurt often {cuts, bruises, scabs}, he's outside a lot. You might be asked to babysit, which if you do, be prepared. He's a bit of a chatterbox if he likes you. Draw together, pose for his portraits, and let him ramble about whatever's on his mind. {You could try to get family information out of him, but butter him up first.} This will also help you get closer to Luda Mae and Thomas - Showing care for Jedidiah is a good sign that you're not a total asshole.
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Thomas is closed off for a few reasons: Previous trauma, anxiety, insecurity, and "fear" of outsiders. One of the easiest ways to get closer to him is by showing respect to the family. If you don't cause chaos, heâll be less antsy around you. Especially if you get close to his mother. Be patient with him, please. Heâs trying his best. Leave him alone when heâs stressed or really upset - Heâll usually storm off to his room or the basement. He needs time to himself, be mindful of that. Thomas, in his nature, is introverted. This doesnât mean he hates people - Heâs just very cautious.Â
You donât necessarily have to compliment Thomas, but itâll definitely help him weaken his guard. I.E; âI like your mask{s}â is a wonderful place to start. Even if you donât like his masks, complimenting his work is the easiest way for him to reconsider how he views you.Â
He LIVES for praise. {This connects to the compliments} - Compliment his strength, his stature, his craft, how he provides for the family. STAND UP FOR HIM !!! Oh my god, and PLEASE thank him for things. For example, if he gets something for you, please say âThank youâ, itâll mean so much to him. He just needs lots of praise and appreciation.Â
If youâre ever serving dinner, give him a bigger portion. Heâll appreciate it.Â
If you ever find things he might like {CDâs, Jewelry, BONES, Needles, Thread} anything he can craft with, give it. Itâll further weaken his protective walls and show that youâre one of the very few people whoâs genuinely interested in Thomas.
When attempting to have a conversation with Thomas, do it when heâs not busy - And when heâs not too tired. At the dinner table? Not the greatest option; Hoyt will be eavesdropping and Thomas is focused on eating. Maybe after dinner - If no âguestsâ are around. If youâre gonna ask him questions, itâs preferred if theyâre âyes/noâ questions. Something easy and quick for him to answer.Â
As soon as he starts loosening his guard, softening his gaze, staring at you / acknowledging you more, and doing things for you; Youâre in. Heâs semi-comfortable with you. When heâs really comfortable around you, heâll treat you as if youâve always been here. More touchy {depending on what type of relationship you two have}, open to conversation, less likely to guard his things; Just generally calmer around you. Oh, and heâll be very protective :) {Hoyt and Monty will be deterred}.
Ask him how he's doing - He may not always respond but it's a start. Bring him water, don't get in the way of his work, give him his space, compliment / praise / acknowledge him, and let Thomas grow at his own pace. The best things take time, especially relationships {of any kind}. Mutual respect is key đ«
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I hope this answers your question! If it doesn't {or you have more questions}, please let me know! Thank you for the ask <3
Reversed possession. Forgot about Thomas being possessive or have some yandere tendencies. What if a fem presenting Y/n was in love with Thomas. And would despise any non family women being close to him or try to manipulate him, hence why they're tend to get rid of the issue without permission. And if Hoyt or mama tried to tell him that Y/n is dangerous and not good for him, she'd convince him otherwise.
oooo this is fun!!đ«
I'm so sorry this took a while to finish up!!
Thomas would have the biggest trust issues EVER - Who does he trust: The person he's in love with, or his family? His family...right?
"I'm telling ya, she's good for nothin', Tommy."
"That woman'll eat you alive - and not in the good way."
"I don't like her. Not one bit, Thomas."
"I've been with a lot of chics in my life, Tommy-boy (lie). I'm telling ya, she ain't no good."
Hoyt is genuinely concerned for Thomas. He's seen how you look at the family, how you coo and 'seduce' Thomas into trusting you. He's seen just how manipulative people can be, he's a manipulative guy himself - And he knows just how desperate Thomas can get in terms of love.
Luda Mae/Mama is SO worried - And especially annoyed. She doesn't like you - "not one bit." She tries to convince Thomas that you're good for nothing, you're a "snake", artificial, whatever she can to get Thomas away from you. She's even pretended to have "run out of food" to convince Thomas "she may be the only 'food' we've got for a while.."
Of course, Thomas refused with a sharp shake of his head..though he was hesitant on both sides
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Or..does he choose you?
"Tommy, they're lying. Lying about everything."
"I need you, don't you need me?"
"No one's gonna love you like I can, baby. I can promise you that."
*Referring to a previous "conversation" with Charlie* "Don't you know how manipulative that sounds? They're trying to manipulate you, Tommy - Keep us apart. You don't want that, do you?"
One simple "I love you" paired with pleading eyes..He's done for. Thomas can't really resist that..at least not anymore.
As soon as Thomas puts his foot down with you, the act begins to falter.
I just keep imagining that one scene in Pearl when the projectionist tries to leave and Pearl goes batshit crazy:
"Did I do something wrong?" - "Why'd you just go cold on me?" - "What did I do wrong?"
"I don't understand, I thought you liked me.." - "Why did you change?" - "You're not leaving me here."
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Tommy is...well, he's Tommy. In the end, he's extremely family-oriented. And unfortunately for you..Charlie Hoyt's got him wrapped around his trigger finger.
Thomas loves you, he stays with you, but Hoyt makes sure to keep you in line. AKA, he never tolerates disrespect to the family. You're always being starred-down at dinner {by most of the family}. He gives you more chores, takes less precaution when dealing with "guests" around you {he'll happily get violent and gory around you, this is the life you signed up for, is it not?}, and still continues to talk with Thomas about your..behavior.
Mama still doesn't like you - That'll likely never change if you continue with such behaviors. But, you're family..as reluctant as she is to admit it.
Honestly - You fit right in with the family: Possessive, violent?, manipulative; You're the whole Hewitt package! It'll just give them time to realize that :)
btw I'm not hating on script writers at all - I apologize for my aggressive tone đ I love both those franchises either way
if a horror/slasher movie ends with the killer in the back seat {of the victim's escape car} when a victim "finally" escapes, it automatically pisses me off - Why is it acceptable as a writer to end a 'horror' movie with the lamest, easiest-to-write ending?? Cmon now, it's so boring and unrealistic.
"Oh, but Tae, slasher films are unrealistic in their nature!1!" no shit, dawg - but you cannot convince me that the "killer suddenly appears in the backseat and kills the protagonist to allow for another potential movie" isn't the worst ending you've ever seen.
How did they get in there? How did the victim not see their {usually} fat ass in the back seat? {I'm looking at you, Thomas Hewitt and Jacob Goodnight}. What the actual fuck. HOW DID THE KILLER NOT GET HURT AT ALL IN THE CAR CRASH? {if it crashes}
PLEASE stop using this as an acceptable ending. Put more thought and effort into your scripts, PLEASE
thank you for coming to my ted talk
Do you think the Hewitt family would be against natives? Or just feel indifferent towards them? It's really gotten stuck in me because religion is one thing, ethnicity anathor, but folks with indigenous backgrounds tend to get hate from all kinds of people by just existing.
Honestly, I think you're gonna get the most from Hoyt and Monty. Hoyt is ignorant as shit - He views Natives as "the original hippies" because of the spirituality associated with indigenous cultures {Including Polynesians}.
"Native? Oh, you mean Indians?" No, Hoyt - Indian refers to India.
"Aren't Natives the ones with the sage and shit? Y'know, all the feather hats and 'old wise ones'?" No, Hoyt..
Monty will be just as bad - He's wayyy more vocal about it. Very racist. Would refer to the Washington Commanders {Previously named 'Redskins'} as comparison.
"But you don't look like the ones on TV" Type of commentary.
Same as with every racist encounter within the family; You'll have to explain that no, none of these stereotypes are true. ESPECIALLY if you're white-passing. "You don't look like a Native to me" - Lots of explaining on racial ambiguity and 'The Eve Gene'.
Very similar to my previous post, honestly. Lots of explaining and bigotry; You'll need a drink or two to get through it.
Tommy wouldn't treat you any differently - He's focused on how you treat him and the family, not your ethnicity :)
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I'm so scared that I phrased this wrong oh god
Enjoy another TCM shitpost whilst I work on two Tommy-related analysesđ« Apparently you can only upload one video per post which sucks but here's a compilation of the four + jumpscare
sometimes I genuinely tweak because what y'all are lying to me and secretly think I'm annoying and need to stfu
Im just cool like that {Diagnosed with anxiety at the age of 12} So fun
TW: Self-mutilation, Hoyt mention {very very brief}, typical canon activities, self-harm?, skin conditions,
Very poor editing, my apologies -
Speech:
Iâve seen many people assume that Thomas either A.) Doesnât speak by choice; B.) Canât speak from vocal {cord} issues; Or C.) A combination of the two / his facial deformity. I agree with everyone else but Iâd also like to add a potential reason: Iâm pretty sure Thomas was diagnosed with âmetal deteriorationâ of some sort in the introduction scene {2006/The Beginning}, and considering this was the mid-late 1900âs, knowledge on mental health was very little compared to now, especially in such a small town. Thomas could possibly be neurodivergent, maybe high-function autism but even then, Thomas could simply have a condition called Speech Apraxia/Apraxia of Speech/AOS/CAS. âIn CAS, the brain has trouble planning for speech movement. The brain isn't able to properly direct the movements needed for speech. The speech muscles aren't weak, but the muscles don't form words the right way.â - Mayo Clinic. This couldâve been amplified by his facial deformity. I donât think itâs irrational to think Thomas can speak, or speaks scarcely, but itâs also not irrational to think Thomas just doesnât speak. I donât think itâs a vocal cord issue as Thomas can make sounds pretty well {Considering he screams/yells/yelps at times in the 2003 remake, and even âhowlsâ in the 2006 version after he gets stabbed by Chrissie.} This is just a thought though, I could be wrong.
Skin Condition:
In a behind-the-scenes video {which can be found on youtube}, one of the crew members said Thomas had an extreme form of skin cancer. Now, this could very well be true, but if it was a real-world condition, Thomas would either be bed-ridden, hooked to a machine constantly, or dead. This condition could be made up, but Iâve found two possible real-world conditions which Thomas may have.Â
Cutaneous Lupus {CLE}. âCutaneous lupus is one type of lupus â an autoimmune disease that causes inflammation in different body tissues. âCutaneous lupus,â which means skin lupus, affects your skin. Inflammation in your skin causes a variety of symptoms â most often a red, scaly rash. These symptoms are triggered by sunlight exposure.â - Cleveland Clinic. This, as most skin conditions, can be localized, meaning theyâre only in one area. In Thomasâ case, this is his face. This could also occur in his scalp, neck, and ears for all we know. CLE is also not contagious.
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What is CLE?Â
âCutaneous lupus, or skin lupus, is an autoimmune disease that affects your skin, causing skin rashes. Autoimmune diseases happen when your immune system mistakenly attacks your own body tissues. In cutaneous lupus, your immune system attacks your skin cells, causing chronic inflammation in your skin. This manifests as a recognizable rash, often with related symptoms like itching, irritation or swelling.â - Cleveland Clinic
2. Pustular Psoriasis. Now, this diagnosis doesnât make the most sense until you see the actual âphotoâ of Thomasâ face. A photo {Which is shown below} is from the 2006/The Beginning behind-the-scenesâ on youtube. This looks A LOT like Pustular Psoriasis to me; Though I could be very wrong. âSymptoms of pustular psoriasis include pustules (white or yellow, pus-filled, painful bumps) that may be surrounded by inflamed or reddened/discolored skin. The pus in pustules is caused by inflammation and is not contagious. People with plaque psoriasis or other types of psoriasis may also develop pustular psoriasisâ - The National Psoriasis Foundation. Common placement of Pustular Psoriasis includes the hands, feet, scalp, and face. It usually affects the hands and feet {Palmoplantar pustulosis}, but not in all patients.
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Whatâs the Difference?
âPustular psoriasis is a type of psoriasis that causes skin plaques with pustules or blisters anywhere on your body. Palmoplantar pustulosis, which is also known as palmoplantar pustular psoriasis, is pustular psoriasis that affects only your hands and feet.â - Cleveland Clinic
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What is Pustular Psoriasis?
Psoriasis is an auto-immune disease, as is CLE: âYour immune system keeps your body healthy by defending itself against foreign invaders like bacteria. These invaders can make you sick. If you have psoriasis, your skin immune system becomes overactive and releases inflammatory molecules that cause healthy skin cells to divide and replicate too quickly, which causes dead skin cells to form on the surface of your skin as scales or flakes. This state of immunologic over-activity also causes certain cells from the immune system called neutrophils to collect in the most superficial layers of the skin, which causes pustules.â - Cleveland Clinic
Photo for Reference:
Iâm not joking, this is an actual screenshot from the Behind-The-Scenes at around 32:17. Now, I donât think Thomasâ condition AS SEEN IN THE FILMS is as extreme, but this might be what a flare-up looks like for him. That being said, thereâs a significant feature Thomas has that we havenât addressed yet,
How Did Thomas Lose His Nose?
In The Beginning {2006}, we can see Thomasâ nose cartilage rotting off from multiple open wounds. Just based on this information, itâs safe to assume it just rotten off, right? Not necessarily. Looking at Thomasâ face reveal in the 2003 remake, we notice the nose is cleanly cut off right where the ârotâ/wound was in the 2006 version. Combine this with his tendency of self-mutilation, this leads me to assume he {or someone in the family} cut it off. Now, Iâve researched this a bit {hyperfixation running rampant rn} and cutting off your nose doesnât hit any major arteries and isnât life-threatening on its own. However, your nose is part of whatâs called the âTriangle of Death.â The Triangle of Death is a part of the face featuring the nose all the way down to the corners of the mouth. Because this area is so close to your brain as well as openings in your face, infections can be deadly. So cutting off your own nose could kill you from infection, not the act itself. Obviously, Thomas didnât die from this as heâs in the damn movies with a fully-healed 'nose'. Anyway, going back to observing his face, we can also see the nasal bone. Finally answering the question: Itâs safe to assume Thomas picks at his skin alot. Combine this with poor hygiene and wearing his {very dirty} mask all the time, his wounds most likely got infected. This caused him to literally rot from the inside out, which caused necrosis. Thomas most likely cut his nose off because of an infection that had the potential to be fatal. Lord knows Luda Mae was probably horrified and Iâm sure Hoyt wasnât too thrilled either..{Montyâs snoozinâ 100%}
Anyway, apologies for the poorly-edited and non-coherent rant. I see so many theories and get a bit intimidated to comment under most of them so I decided to post this instead. :)
I need to draw Thomas kneeling crying throwing up in despondency and desperation
Had no idea this was his room until I checked bts and props websites
need him like this or somethibg
tis is so ass blud đ
Source: Austin Chandelier Service
Photographed by {I believe to be} Jake McCoy
Source: Reddit.com
The Kitchen {also} Photographed by Jake McCoy