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@thatsthat24 Thomas has it, it's called ‘SHARING’

PM Seymour is like Thomas Sanders back in the day if you say their name they’ll just APPEAR with half a burrito in hand like, “Wassup.”

When I saw the crystal thing, my eyes bulged out of my head like a cartoon wolf looking at a pretty lady, I was in shock! But yeah, thought it was interesting so I decided to post about it :)

The Pixar Youtube theory, Part 1: Escape with Markiplier

Hello! The first two I would like to tackle are the With Markiplier series and Escape the Night, and hopefully, next, I can tackle Iris and Sander's sides, talk about Dad Feels and Genloss, try and cross the talking points between them, and at the end I’ll make a post on how they’re all connected and what I think the timeline would be.

Note: I don’t know everything, this is just a theory, tell me if I’m wrong or if you like it!

Let's start with something big;

The houses. In Escape the Night season One, Two, and (arguably) Four are set in houses. In the first season, they contained the evil, trapped in the 1920s, but it sunk its way into Joey. In the second season, they broke a seal to allow them to leave the house, stuck in the Victorian era, and Joey dies and is revived by the crown of oblivion. And the fourth season is the afterlife. Or, I guess, an afterlife, set in a museum, where Joey decides to open Pandora’s box and gets trapped inside.

Now let's look at Markiplier Manor. It is Mark’s estate that he grew up in that has spirits and evil living in the house. Every time he dies, he comes back and gets closer to the entity. The entity then helps him come up with a plan to kill all his friends because the entity wants to leave the house.

Right off the bat, just looking at these two series, we see some obvious similarities. House is evil, has weird spirits roaming inside of it, and makes the people who own it murder their friends. And nobody leaves the house the same. They are still affected by this magic when they leave whether they’d like to admit it or not. Remember this, I’ll come back to it.

Every single time someone new is invited to the chaos, it always comes in a little invitation. Whether written by him or by someone pretending to be him, it always comes in a letter. And what do we get before ‘Who Killed Markiplier’ came out?

Exactly.

Evil house, invitation, good people turning into bad people, and death. In Joey's, there is a lot more beating around the bush, but it gives us a lot of information on how the world works. This leads me to my next point.

The idea of time not being linear, hoping through universes, and getting stuck in loops over and over again. Their dimension-hopping and teleporting back and forth between time all comes... from stones. In Mark’s Space series, you, as the player, replay events, restart over and over again, teleport to different times, and teleport to different universes. And it's all thanks to the warp crystal, this little, blue, glowing crystal tower. It was also used to power the warp core, which caused time loops and paradoxes, and the warp device, which allowed teleportation to different universes.

And now let's look at Escape the Night. Specifically, at the very end of season four, where Bretman and Colleen used ‘The cosmic sphere’ to open a portal and escape purgatory. And what is in the center of this device?

A little blue crystal tower.

This. This one little detail is huge! They look the exact same, they do the exact same things, and they both need to be attached to something to be used properly. And, when attached to something different, it does something different. When attached to the box in Heist, it gives you whatever item you want or need, assuming it takes it from a different time or universe. When attached to the warp core, it's supposed to cause the ship to warp to where it needs to go but caused a time loop in the process. When attached to the warp device, it teleports you to random points across the multiverse. All of the devices work, but it acts erratically and unreliably. But when attached to the cosmic sphere, it projects a portal that you can then walk through. No weirdness, no unpredictability, just exactly where they needed to go.

(My working theory is that the warp crystal needs to be in the cosmic sphere to work properly. If it isn’t, it will be unpredictable.)

The crystal was taken from the afterlife, purgatory. A place completely identical to this one, but slightly different. Darker, scarier, a place filled with spirits and evil, Dark entities.

Kinda sounds like Mark’s upside-down, don’t you think?

But the real question is which one comes first? Well, let's look at what time period each ETN season came from. The events of what happened in the show are linear to how they come out, but the dates of what happens change the timeline completely. Season 2 was the Victorian era, which was between 1837 to 1901. Season 1 was in the 1920s, very cut and dry. And season four was mainly set in the 1940s, but can go completely across time. We know this from the things collected from the different time periods. (Irrelevant for this post, but season three is set in the 1970s.)

And Who Killed Markiplier, according to Google, is set somewhere between the 1920s and the 1950s, meaning the order of events would’ve been S2, S1, WKM, S4, S3. God damn time fuckery, making my job hard.

In season one, the original manor, they ‘contained’ the evil, meaning it couldn’t leave the house. Or we thought it couldn’t leave the house until we see Joey leave the house being corrupted by this evil. Meaning that the evil needs to inhabit someone so it can bring others in. The longer in the house, the worse the effects get. The same thing with Mark’s manor. Two, unnamed, evil entities leave the house through both Celine’s body and your body.

What I’m trying to imply is that, maybe, Mark’s manor is the same house in ETN season 1. “But Devon,” I hear you asking, “How does that make sense? Mark would have to have owned the house at the same time as Joey for that to make sense, considering Mark grew up in the house and Joey ‘inherits’ it at the very beginning.” And to that, I say, “Consider the pockets of time.”

If Joey exists in this pocket of time and then leaves to go back to the modern world, that means the person that owns the house no longer exists. At least, not at that time. Mark was 28 when he made ‘Who Killed Markiplier,’ Meaning he lived in his own place for a while. Since Mark grew up in that time and that house, and since Joey abandoned that house in the 1920s, that means the exact events that happened in that house happened around 1948 at least, which puts us squarely in our timeline.

If Mark’s Manor and Joey’s estate are the same, then that means that the evil and the entities are the same beings. Just like how the warp crystal and the cosmic sphere are the same stone. However, I would like to add one last thing.

Cc! Mark has said that the entities not only trick C! Mark into doing their bidding but also convince Mark that it was his idea the whole time. That idea was to have Wilford kill him in a game of Russian Roulette, have everyone turn on him and kill him as well, and then him and the entity could take his body and get out of there. And I’ve noticed that death description fits two deaths in escape the night season one.

The death of Timmothy DeLaGetto, also known as ‘The Mobster.’

And the death of Arthur.

For those who don’t know, Arthur’s entire role was to manipulate the evil to do what he wants. He was ‘The butler’ of the house, convincing all of the other past owners to feed into the evil so he can do what he wants. It feels like he’s not just working as a butler for the owner, but a butler for the evil. He gets found out, the remaining guests free his brother, the brother then shoots the other two residents of the house along with Arthur.

If I were to guess, Arthur doesn’t like being dead. So after Joey leaves, the bodies get cleaned up, Mark and his family move in, and Arthur is forced to watch Mark, Damien, and William grow up in front of him. Arthur gets replaced with Benjamin, Mark falls in love with Celine, Celine after realizing the house is evil (Because she’s a seer) leaves the house and runs away with William, Damien becomes Mayor, Mark feels worthless and alone and kills himself.

Arthur talks to Mark, Arthur convinces the evil to bring him back, Mark comes back, Mark kills himself, so on and so forth. The entity that works with Mark being Arthur makes sense. He would know that killing Wilford like that would work because he’s seen it work. Once with the mobster and once with him. All he did was combine the two and convince Mark he came up with it.

When Celine comes into the picture, he’s ecstatic because he gets the chance to not just get his own body, but a more powerful body. A body that could do what his and Wilford’s couldn’t. Talk to the beyond and commune with other entities. So he changed the plan and had Mark kick out Celine and Damien from their bodies, forcing them to take yours when they die. But not without taking some evil on their way out.

But, of course, this is just the beginning. This isn’t the last time we see the evil. The evil spreads, and my god does it spread.

(Author’s Note: Joey needs better friends both in and out of canon.)

Good points! Great points, even!

Okay, I know Logan can’t duck out. That’s canon. There’s nothing that can change that. But you probably wanna know the closest we could probably get to Logan ducking out?

Hypnotism.

Hypnotism can be used for a lot of self-help things, but for this I’m only going to mention those hypnotism performer type dudes.

So, I’m going to imagine what happens is when Thomas (Willingly) goes under hypnosis, Logan just kinda falls asleep? Like, worse-case scenario he can be woken up, but while under hypnosis? He’s just taking a little nap. But who takes Logical control while Logan is out?

Roman does!

That’s why people can eat onions and fully believe they’re eating apples. Or fully believe they’re meeting their celebrity crush when really it’s just Some Guy (tm). Because there isn’t any actual logic behind it, but believable thanks to a little imagination.

Been working hard and, simultaneously, hardly working. But I have a question for all of you;

If it's posted all at once, it may be more confusing, but all of the info will be there. It also may take longer

If it's posted in parts, it will be easier to digest but harder to understand overall in the long run. It time will be shorter, but will come out in parts with time in between

I’ve had a horrible vision

Teacher, showing the inside of a human: these right here, are your organs.

Charlie:

Okay, big hear me out: Punk Roman. He might’ve had his casual emo days, but his mindset was most likely “Shit sucks, and I will scream and shout until it gets better!” And, like, that's punk behavior

Not be casually remembering that Thomas went through an emo phase meaning that ALL the sides were emo at once and Virgil just stayed like that for shits and giggles💀

(Side note: someone draw an emo Roman I need to see this now)

What if in space with Markiplier and Sanders Sides combined??

Chaos would ensue. This almost feels like a fanfiction prompt. I’m also going to interpret this as Thomas is apart of the crew and his sides are the different universes, but if this isn’t what you meant you can ask again and I’ll redo it. (Also, thanks to Markiplier lore, this is Canon adjacent!):

Patton would be in Stan’s universe. You, as the player, may never meet him, but to him you’ve known him for all your life. He’s downstairs cleaning up after dinner while stan puts you to bed with a story. Patton and Stan aren’t dating (At least not on paper) they just live together while they sort out marriage issues and this was the best solution they could come up with.

This is my first “hear me out” one, but I feel like Logan would be in camp counselor Mark’s universe. Not as someone that works there, but as someone who monitors the field trips for other students. Bro’s just doing his job.

There's only one place I feel like Roman would fit, and that's with The Sexbang crew? But like, that very specific rendition where they’re all midlevel boys from, like, Skyrim or something? That's the only place that makes sense to me. Jammin and living like royalty.

Another big ‘hear me out,’ but... Janus would be in the noir universe 100% That boy would fit in completely. A universe that's centered around those black-and-white mystery tv shows from the fifties where everything is shrouded in uncertainty? My boy would fit right in.

Virgil is in that emo-boy universe. I’ve completely forgotten what its called. It's the one where mark is crying on the bed listening to his Markiplier tribute video? It's that one. They’re friends.

I’m gonna be 100%, I have no idea where the fuck Remus would go. But hopefully, these ideas will be satisfying (or funny) enough for you: Remus is in the Heehoo universe, they are not friends and both are very territorial. Remus is the bomb in the bomb universe. Remus is in the same universe as Roman. Remus works under chef in that old man Mark universe. Most of what he makes is poisonous for human consumption, luckily most of his customers are aliens.

And that's all I got! Hope you like it, and I’m sorry it took so long to get to ❤️

Now someone needs to make a story about a non-binary mermaid.

We are all FOOLS.

All this nonsense with mermaid and merman and what to call them when

MERSON.

MERSON was staring us in the face the WHOLE. DAMN. TIME.

If I learned anything from this chart, it's that A) Prinxiety is still the most popular ship, and B) People love shipping Logan with the others.

Also if this was used as a building block for a fanfic, it would be a mess 😂

best [character] ship masterpost

Best Logan Ship

Best Patton Ship

Best Virgil Ship

Best Roman Ship

Best Janus Ship

Best Remus Ship

Best Emile Ship

Best C!Thomas Ship

Best Remy Ship

GO VOTE 🗳️

YES YES A BLOG FOR THESE THREE- I haven’t gotten as deep into Markiplier’s lore vids, but love Jacksepticeye’s egos and the sides (these three also kind of got me into watching others like Kallmekris and Cameron Geller, although they just play multiple characters they aren’t really regarded as egos?) I’m taking that post I saw abt in what order to best watch Mark’s lore stuff because I’ve been confused for a while on how to get into it/try to make sense of the story

I don’t really have anything smart to say or ask…yet. Just. Really happy I found this blog

KALLMEKRIS

God, yes, I love her stuff. I know she doesn’t technically give us a ‘lore’ explanation on why they look the same or anything, BUT GOD I LOVE HER STUFF!

You could watch Mark’s stuff in any order, but I just watched it in the order the stuff came out. Anyways, thank you for liking my blog ❤️