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OMG I also as well think five as apples because I been like kinda associating them to colour and sorry about the s4 flashbacks imao but the reason I think Ben is blueberries is that associate him with the colour blue and specifically the jade of blueberries but then again but also associate five and Viktor with blue due they're powers but Viktor is more a white, purple and a light blue where as five is red and but a Navy blue and I associate Allison with yellow like sunshine yellow, orange, black,white and red and Diego with red but idk what kind because I keep on seeing fire truck red in my head(I don't think that's right idfk)but I associate Klaus with like sea foam green ,grey and light pink
I'm not actually sure on Luther (poor him) but I honestly don't know what colour or shade of colour to associate with him maybe mourning grey.. Idk
For some reason now I associate five with strawberries but idk what the others with, maybe Ben with blueberries ... That's all I can think of right now.
(I can literally picture it in my head that both Ben and five hair clips in their hair and it a blueberry and strawberry)
I have sooo many drafts right now , most of it was stuff I was not comfortable posting because I thought people would hate it and one I forgot to finish of it is umbrella Academy and I have two vents about season 4 and one thing about what I think what the hargreeves would wear if I try drawing them all ( I suffer from same clothing syndrome) but I wanted to see what I could picture them in and other stuff I don't exactly remember but I do remember that I have poll about five if he was radioactive or not
At the moment trying to do a family portrait with the Hargreeves after finally getting the happy ending they want (this is an alternate universe that turned into the main universe as it is finally completed) and I thought that they do family portrait to show how much they improved and how much they healed (I Don't want to add the spouses just because I just want it about the siblings)
You know , it would've been easier to write a happy ending rather having them commit suicide
Just show them having what they want, be able to be happy together and being able to live their lives without struggles like Reginald, commission, war and the apocalypse
Yes that would be a bit boring but it finally shows all of them getting their lives on the right track and being able to have a normal life
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Does anyone have good tua fics that are five centric and complete? I've been looking for a bit and I'm just not sure about the titles and due to skepticism really and some of them not being complete and I want an opinion to see what is good or not? :l
But please either comment or reblog with a fanfic recommendation
Does anyone think that Reginald did log tests on the children , like voice logs so he keeps track of how far they are training their powers and that. How do you think he would start the voice log , also who would have the most like training tests on them??
Like would also talk about the side effects of each power and how he would "tackle" them
I think he would ,especially with Christopher , man is literally a cube
Please comment your thoughts on this, cause I'm curious about if anyone else thought this (probably not)
The Umbrella Academy Season 4 (Deleted Scene)
I totally agree! I don't want them to treat it as if it's something that's done overnight and I think showing him spiral even farther than he already is would be helpful in also making it more obvious that addiction isn't something that just goes away, it takes a lot of work and sometimes it's a life time commitment to getting better and that it's okay too.
I'd also love to see the use of therapy being beneficial for ones wellbeing because though there are instances where it can cause more harm (I've experienced quite a few personally), not all of it is bad. We have so much media that portrays it as something bad (we even see that Diego and Lila in S2 when one of the staff threatens and even hurts Diego), so showing the good that can come from it would be great. There's actually a fic I've been reading where the writer talks about Klaus going to therapy and sharing some of his therapy sessions with his siblings and I really love that!
Of course, with the episode limit there's no way to fit all of this on top of everyone else's storylines and I don't want a spinoff focusing on just Klaus like some in the fandom want because damn do I love him, but I would have loved for this all to be a part of the major storyline.
I saw your post talking about Klaus' addiction and how his family plays into the role of how society tends to treat addicts, which I totally agree on and I'm so thankful to see others speak up on it, but I also wanted to bring up that there's even more issues with how some people in the fandom, and society as well, treat addiction.
A lot of society only treats addicts horribly if their drug(s) of choice are "hard drugs". Nobody sees Allison's smoking cigarettes in S3 or all the drinking done in all seasons as an addiction because they've been so normalized. They're so normalized that there are hundreds of shows that show a lot of drinking and/or smoking cigarettes/cigars and hardly anyone considers any of those characters as addicts.
And I think that also plays into the way Klaus' siblings treated him while struggling with addiction because they participate in it too, but they never get called an addict because their addictions are "normal". "Why can't Klaus just drink like everyone else and not do 'hard drugs'"?
Oh absolutely, I did actually get into this a bit in a follow-up post (here)
And like, addictive behaviours can latch onto anything. Gambling, exercise, food, shopping, music, sex, gaming... if it gives a moment of happiness and dopamine it can become maladaptive as an outlet and an escape...
Alcohol causes much more social and physical harm than many "hard" drugs, and in much smaller quantities, despite being much more socially acceptable. And it isn't criminalized in the same ways (which is good, because criminalizing a health issue is wrong and doesn't work, because social rejection and judgment force people deeper into addiction, and by making things illegal you create black markets and fund organised crime and really do everything to increase the problem at hand).
And you're right in that the siblings (and society) treat drinking (and smoking) as different, even with Klaus who is very much an alcoholic...
Because many people do turn to bad habits and alcohol during bad times.
But it is interesting to note that while a large number of the siblings are self-medicating during that time due to their level of alcohol use, and in a very unhealthy way, it doesn't necessarily mean they're addicts as well. Or rather, not addicts in the same way as Klaus.
I'm reminded of a study done about drug use, particularly heroin usage, by soldiers in the Vietnam War. Where drug use was ubiquitous and at incredibly high levels. And yet when most of these soldiers returned home they stopped using it entirely (and this is a physical dependency causing substance, so unsupervised withdrawal can easily kill a person).
Because they were no longer in the situation they wanted to escape.
Of course not every soldier stopped using, and the homeless, addicted veteran is a well-known figure in the popular consciousness for a very real reason. But often those soldiers who kept using weren't coming back to any sort of support system or a good situation at all. And there was, and still is, a huge lack of support for the trauma inflicted by war on those forced into it ( I say as someone who had half their family conscripted into a Cold War related war, even if it wasn't the Vietnam War specifically).
It was something of a real-life example of the Rat Park experiment, which has trended on Tumblr before, and also illustrated how connected addicted behaviours are to the environment that people are in...
But this is to me part of why they treat their behaviour as "different" and why they also don't bother Klaus about his drinking in s2 and 3, even as he consumes much more than any of them and started carrying a flask again that he's seen drinking from constantly, even in the less stressful situations he's in since he first relapsed s2...
Because he can't stop once he started again.
The others can't comment on his drinking, if they even notice it with everyone being so wrapped up in their own things, because they're all also drinking at unhealthy levels, particularly in s3, and it's the end of the world so from their perspective, "fuck it!". But even though their own dependency at that point is unhealthy, it's still not at the same level as Klaus's...
Because there is nuance when it comes to addiction and dependence and situational dependency and so much else...
But it is also cause for them to finally sympathise and recognise that "there goes them but for the grace of god", because they really aren't as different as they would like to think... (which tbh, it seems like Luther got after s1, given how he's treated Klaus since)
This is another reason why I'm also so sad about the 6 episode announcement. Because these things being addressed would be best without the apocalypse hanging over them all and giving them the excuse to ignore stuff
But yeah, I think they're gonna be stretched to try and wrap up the plot, and character development and moments are gonna be sacrificed...
Anyway, I have so many thoughts about these topics, and I am so thankful for every ask that allows me to indulge in me thinking my thoughts!
I kinda keep forgetting their situation as something that's tremendously traumatic, which is probably due to how often it happens. đ With that, yeah, I should have also considered "why" they're doing it and if it would be something they'd stop doing once the traumatic situation ended, which we can see some of them not drink until they find out the world is ending again (or in Allison's case in S3 she starts drinking when she realized Claire isn't in the current timeline and later on drinking and smoking).
I agree that I wish there were more episodes because not only do I want to get an answer to some of the questions we all have, like Allison's current situation, but I also want to see Klaus at least managing his addictions and maybe even having help from everyone. By then, not only would he be in a different environment that isn't as similar as his environment in S1 (and hopefully no impending doom like S2 and S3), but he'd also have a support system that he needs and wants. I want to see him get sober and not just because it's nice to see character development that's good for them and their wellbeing, but also because I'd love to see more media portray that if you're suffering from addictions it doesn't mean your life is completely ruined. I don't want his addictions in S1 to be seen as "some quirky thing we can added to him that we'll never talk about again". I'd also love to see him turn down an alcoholic drink because he knows it'll affect him negatively or his siblings always make him mocktails and such with everyone else so he doesn't feel so alone. I'd be surprised if we get any of that in S4, but a man can dream.
I saw your post talking about Klaus' addiction and how his family plays into the role of how society tends to treat addicts, which I totally agree on and I'm so thankful to see others speak up on it, but I also wanted to bring up that there's even more issues with how some people in the fandom, and society as well, treat addiction.
A lot of society only treats addicts horribly if their drug(s) of choice are "hard drugs". Nobody sees Allison's smoking cigarettes in S3 or all the drinking done in all seasons as an addiction because they've been so normalized. They're so normalized that there are hundreds of shows that show a lot of drinking and/or smoking cigarettes/cigars and hardly anyone considers any of those characters as addicts.
And I think that also plays into the way Klaus' siblings treated him while struggling with addiction because they participate in it too, but they never get called an addict because their addictions are "normal". "Why can't Klaus just drink like everyone else and not do 'hard drugs'"?
Oh absolutely, I did actually get into this a bit in a follow-up post (here)
And like, addictive behaviours can latch onto anything. Gambling, exercise, food, shopping, music, sex, gaming... if it gives a moment of happiness and dopamine it can become maladaptive as an outlet and an escape...
Alcohol causes much more social and physical harm than many "hard" drugs, and in much smaller quantities, despite being much more socially acceptable. And it isn't criminalized in the same ways (which is good, because criminalizing a health issue is wrong and doesn't work, because social rejection and judgment force people deeper into addiction, and by making things illegal you create black markets and fund organised crime and really do everything to increase the problem at hand).
And you're right in that the siblings (and society) treat drinking (and smoking) as different, even with Klaus who is very much an alcoholic...
Because many people do turn to bad habits and alcohol during bad times.
But it is interesting to note that while a large number of the siblings are self-medicating during that time due to their level of alcohol use, and in a very unhealthy way, it doesn't necessarily mean they're addicts as well. Or rather, not addicts in the same way as Klaus.
I'm reminded of a study done about drug use, particularly heroin usage, by soldiers in the Vietnam War. Where drug use was ubiquitous and at incredibly high levels. And yet when most of these soldiers returned home they stopped using it entirely (and this is a physical dependency causing substance, so unsupervised withdrawal can easily kill a person).
Because they were no longer in the situation they wanted to escape.
Of course not every soldier stopped using, and the homeless, addicted veteran is a well-known figure in the popular consciousness for a very real reason. But often those soldiers who kept using weren't coming back to any sort of support system or a good situation at all. And there was, and still is, a huge lack of support for the trauma inflicted by war on those forced into it ( I say as someone who had half their family conscripted into a Cold War related war, even if it wasn't the Vietnam War specifically).
It was something of a real-life example of the Rat Park experiment, which has trended on Tumblr before, and also illustrated how connected addicted behaviours are to the environment that people are in...
But this is to me part of why they treat their behaviour as "different" and why they also don't bother Klaus about his drinking in s2 and 3, even as he consumes much more than any of them and started carrying a flask again that he's seen drinking from constantly, even in the less stressful situations he's in since he first relapsed s2...
Because he can't stop once he started again.
The others can't comment on his drinking, if they even notice it with everyone being so wrapped up in their own things, because they're all also drinking at unhealthy levels, particularly in s3, and it's the end of the world so from their perspective, "fuck it!". But even though their own dependency at that point is unhealthy, it's still not at the same level as Klaus's...
Because there is nuance when it comes to addiction and dependence and situational dependency and so much else...
But it is also cause for them to finally sympathise and recognise that "there goes them but for the grace of god", because they really aren't as different as they would like to think... (which tbh, it seems like Luther got after s1, given how he's treated Klaus since)
This is another reason why I'm also so sad about the 6 episode announcement. Because these things being addressed would be best without the apocalypse hanging over them all and giving them the excuse to ignore stuff
But yeah, I think they're gonna be stretched to try and wrap up the plot, and character development and moments are gonna be sacrificed...
Anyway, I have so many thoughts about these topics, and I am so thankful for every ask that allows me to indulge in me thinking my thoughts!
When Allison comes into the kitchen for her morning coffee, she notices a group of little paper bags lined up on the table. Each of them has a number written with black magic marker, reminding her of the way Grace used to pack their lunches.Â
These are about a third the size of a lunch bag and decorated with little ghosts and things. Allison suddenly remembers the date, October 31st.
Halloween treat bags. How adorable!Â
Halloween wasnât the same without Claire, of course, but maybe a little Halloween treat might help to dull the pain.
She opens bag number three. Itâs gummy bears. Her favorite. She crams a small handful into her mouth, then sits down to check the news and relax with some toast and coffee.
Diego comes in and gestures towards the bags. âThese from mom?âÂ
âI guess so.â
Diego looks into his bag and smiles.
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Klaus: If your grave doesnt say "rest in peace" on it you are automatically drafted into the skeleton war
Diego: I'm gonna be cremated so imagine a cloud of bones flying over the battlefield
Klaus: Oo metal
Viktor: Synonyms are weird because if you invite someone to your cottage in the forest, that sounds nice and cozy, but if you invite someone to your cabin in the woods, they're going to die.
Five: Yes, it's called "connotation".
Allison: My personal favorite is butt dial vs booty call.
Klaus: Mine is "forgive me, Father, for I have sinned" vs "sorry, Daddy, I've been naughty".
Luther: Great news! Language is now cancelled!
Klaus: Do you ever feel like thereâs bugs crawling all over you when thereâs nothing there?
Viktor: Thatâs the ghosts of all the bugs youâve killed.
Klaus: ...
Five: Viktor, quit traumatizing Klaus.
Klaus: I wasnât that drunk.
Viktor: You colored my face with a highlighter because you said I was important.
Klaus: BECAUSE YOU ARE!
Klaus : In my defense, I simply donât vibe with the law.
Klaus: Be gay, do crimes is all well and good, but one can also be queer, instill fear
Viktor: you forgot be trans, throw hands
Diego: be bi, go for the eye
Five: Be ace, punch face
Luther, the struggling token straightâ˘ď¸:âŚIâm scared of you all
Klaus: Hate crimes? Hmmm no I love them
The chaotic energy behind Klaus's "we played catch!" is giving me new life. Klaus, you died.
So apparently there's this script for a tua season 1 episode that never got made. It's about their 23th birthday.
You guys.
A couple of things that stand out:
- That cross stitch Diego had in the boiler room that was so obviously a gift from Grace was a gift for his 23th birthday.
- Also, Diego went every week to visit his mom. I'm crying
- Klaus was in jail at this time, and he accidentally killed a guy in self defense.
- Allison is there but we just see her struggling not to use her powers on every day issues.
- Also apparently Patrick was her acting coach.
- She needed it.
- Luther was pathetic and I want to cry for him bc I love him so much but God was he dumb. Also the Accident happened the day after his birthday.
- Viktor had a girlfriend, who looked so sweet at first but then he found out she was cheating on him. On his birthday. Ouch.
- Five flirted with a woman named Delores in a 1940s (I think) bar, and it was so sweet and heartbreaking. He got a little kiss for dancing with her. It was great. Get it, old man.
- Five traveled to 2012 for the commission, saw Diego leave the academy, and couldn't stop himself from shouting his brother's name. I am HEARTBROKEN
- The Handler stopped him before Diego could see him, and also we have confirmation that the Handler was fucking creepy. She kissed Five after proclaiming he was hers. Five stands still and closes his eyes. I'm... feeling things. Mostly homicidal rage.
- Viktor visits Klaus in jail, which develops into the best conversation I've ever read.
- They talk about Viktor's book. Klaus is very supportive. Reading the whole script is worth it just to read that conversation JESUS CHRIST:
- Apparently, Grace announced one day at the dinner table that Diego had had his first wet dream.
- Klaus asks Viktor if he had added that lovely little anecdote into the book.
- Viktor responded with an: yeah, I did.
- Christ almighty I know understand why Diego was so fucking angry VIKTOR HARGREEVES YOU HAVE ZERO CHILL.
- Okay seriously overall that conversation is very sweet. Best klaus-viktor interaction. 10/10
- Also I find hilarious that Regginald tried to call them all separately but obviously no one picked up, so his next thought was: "well. Better start planning my own funeral".
- The quip Klaus made in the Void when he asked Reginald "couldn't you just have called?" Is a thousand times funnier knowing that the bastard DID call, but Klaus missed it bc he was in jail.
That is all for tonight lovelies, this was heartbreaking to read but overall amazing, I recommend you read it, here is the link
Five: No drinking, no gambling, no premarital sex. Klaus, they basically just outlawed 90% of your personality
Klaus: We need to leave
reginald lied to klaus about his death in 3x07. in 3x06, when klaus comes to visit him, itâs a day; itâs still a day when reginald electrocutes him to death:
itâs night, when allison comes to the academy with harlanâs body in the trunk (and thereâs also klausâ body somewhere in the academy):
and it seems only the NEXT DAY reginald takes klaus out for training. in 3x07, reginald tells klaus he remained dead for 22 minutes. so, klaus probably thinks itâs still the day when he told reginald about the white buffalo suite; the last thing he remembers is being electrocuted. reginald also adds that klaus was totally vulnerable, and he couldâve taken any of his organs. klaus is shocked, because why good olâ reggie would do that, right?
the training starts at 1:15 p.m., reginald writes it down. logically, klausâ 22-minute-long death should be listed as 001, but:
itâs 004. 22 minutes - lower body (something something), and LACERATION? before that, 003 - failure (?).Â
between klausâ FIRST electrocution and the bus-ball training, reginald had killed him not one, but four (FOUR!) times. and, most likely he did indeed try to cut him/cut out his organs (?) to check on how/if his dead body can heal itself. spoiler alert: klaus CAN HEAL HIMSELF even when heâs dead. later, we can see it in 3x09 when he comes back to life when the wound on his stomach has ALREADY healed. (so no one could steal his falling out guts, right? reginald knew. old bitch fucking knew).Â
so, i think reginald kept electrocuting klaus all night between 3x06-3x07 (with the method reginald chose, it could probably mess up klausâ memories? he literally doesnât remember shit except for being electrocuted one last time?) until he made sure that: a) klaus comes back fairly quick now (attempt 003 says 26 minutes, not bad, not bad!) and b) his body heals from any injuries so haha getting crashed with a car is not a big deal. Â
klaus has this habit of searching for answers and purpose in the same place he lost them. his autonomy was stolen from him as a child, and he lives with that loss every day. itâs quite common for people with that experience to live with dissociative symptoms, and i actually think klaus is a realistic portrayal of that. while itâs never outright said that itâs dissociation he deals with, i think a lot of survivors could probably see it in him. heâs always seemed to feel a disconnect with himself, with his own body (for example â and this is a small one â when he told ben âyouâre not getting in this body,â rather than my body). his identity is something transient, something that shifts drastically sometimes depending on the situation heâs in, which is a common experience in people with dissociative symptoms â weâre like âchameleons.âÂ
he forgets key things regarding his trauma: that, or his brain will twist the events to make them more palatable to himself. he didnât remember being killed as a child, even though it happened multiple times. and despite not remembering anything, he still has visceral reactions when it comes to being confined. he may not consciously remember every event, but his body does, and so he reacts accordingly, as if the threat of being killed again were a present one. because the body remembers the loss of control, it remembers the autonomy that was once stolen. then thereâs âbus ball.â obviously, it was an objectively shitty, terrifying thing, being once again murdered, multiple times by your own father and abuser â and as an experiment, no less. despite that, the events were portrayed as something that was for the most part fun, almost. and when he vaguely recounted said events later on, he referred to it as âbus ball.â like it really was nothing more than a game. thatâs another common dissociative symptom, and a common trauma symptom: being so disconnected on a certain level from your own trauma that youâre able to talk about it like itâs nothing. that youâre able to remember a skewed version of it so that you donât have to internalize any of the real terror.
touch is another one. klaus is a very tactile person. he communicates well through touch. but he often doesnât like being touched, unless itâs from someone he knows, loves and trusts.
he startles easily, too. will jump back at sudden movements or words, gets frightened by loud noises and will cover his ears.
his need for connection is relevant here, too. he has a hard time being alone with himself, and so he finds people to cling to, or finds people that will cling to him, just to stave off those feelings and to ground himself, almost. sometimes it spirals out of control, like with the cult. but his constant need for connection stems from feeling disconnected.
one of his passing comments to luther in s1 (âI remember my first time⌠oh no. i donâtâ) hits hard, too. itâs not uncommon for trauma victims to experience hypersexuality as a result of this loss of autonomy. and then, to not even remember some of these encounters (obviously, the drugs/alcohol likely play a role in this not remembering. but hey, whatâs addiction often a symptom of? oh yeah. trauma.)
this disconnect he feels from his own body is also why he was able to have certain encounters even with people he didnât like. keechie comes to mind. he didnât like keechie, that was made clear. but it sounds like he still had no problem having sex with him, despite this. itâs common, when you have dissociative symptoms, to feel this sort of disconnect. you donât always care what happens to a body that doesnât feel like yours, hell, you can enjoy it, sometimes â even if you donât like the person youâre doing it with.
itâs why he gets off on torture, too. klaus being a masochist was clearly portrayed in episode four, but then was referenced again two other times. (âif i see a boner, iâm outâ when he was being tied up, and, âiâm going to beat you, and not the way you like it.â) when you grow up tortured and become accustomed to it itâs easy for the brain to say âhey, this is unbearable so actually we like this thing now. thatâll make it bearable!â i mean, obviously itâs a little more complicated than that, but thatâs the gist of the situation.Â
you often find comfort â or even pleasure â in familiarity, even when familiarity isnât safe. we see that in klaus.
and that leads me back to my main point: klaus searches for answers, he searches for purpose in the same places he lost them. if he can give up his body to anyone who will take it, then maybe he can take back autonomy, is what he might think. if he can have a say in his own destruction, whether itâs addiction or reckless behavior, then maybe he can take back control.Â
but thatâs never truly how it plays out. a trauma survivor will never find what theyâre looking for this way. i believe that klaus is starting to realize this, even if he does run into setbacks, and even though he will continue to run into setbacks. if he wants to find control, and if he wants to find purpose, he will have to reroute that energy into a path of recovery rather than destruction. itâs a hard hill to climb, but we know he can do it.
i could say more about this, but i think this says enough, for now.
I rewatched S1 and S2 of The Umbrella Academy for the tenth time, and I decided to keep track of how many times the characters said certain words