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If Charles and Edwin weren't ghosts what other supernatural creatures do you think they'd be

I think Charles would either be a werewolf or a vampire and I think Edwin would be a siren because he managed to seduce four men without even trying

Sorry for taking time to respond, I debated on answering that.

Using this ask to answer this question myself.

I personally don't agree. Edwin is more than his sexuality for me. Personally it feels reductive to me just perceived his character all about his sexuality like that, George said so himself Edwin's journey was so much more than just sexual awakening they were careful writing Edwin they wanted to show it's so much more than just the sexual part.

I personally think it would way funnier if he will be just some random fantasy creature with accidental powers of attraction, and he has no idea how that's happening. Or just like in the show randomly attracting creatures without any actual reason and has no idea how this shit keeps happening to him everyone are sure he's a siren or that he has seductive powers but he's just some random guy.

Regarding to what he would be, I want to call him a fairy for funsies but as a serious answer I would say he would be an elf. Not sure if they have elves but they have fairies and all sort of other fantasy magical creatures so far so why not.

Regarding to Charles, sorry I'm a bit uncomfortable with your answer as well. I feel like making the poc character a creature known for animalistic feral behaviour is stereotypical and harmful to brown people. Jayden is part black, making the black character/actor of the group the animalistic creature makes me feel uneasy, it's a bit problematic. Especially that it's European folklore, if anything animalistic he would be something from Indian or Jamaican folklore.

And I don't feel like those creatures are a good choice for him anyway. Werewolves and vampires are often known for being feral and intense and hard to control, but I don't feel like it's Charles. To me it feels like saying Charles is just his strong emotions and intense behaviour that are directly caused by his trauma. He was obviously at his darkest point when he beat the Night Nurse (and he justifiedly did so), but that's not necessarily his true self. He's so much more than just his trauma and I don't want to reduce him to behaviour that happened at his lowest point.

Charles doesn't have anger issues or intense behaviour, he's just traumatized kid and he let's his emotions out.

I know, in society that teaches boys to repress any emotional vulnerability it's a real shocker. But Charles is really just a sweet broken boy in my eyes. He's a very gentle and loving person.

Even though wolves are protective, they're still very possessive and known for being feral, rough, aggressive. I don't feel like it's Charles he's not that wild.

Honestly, I don't know what he would be. A fairy possibly? A nephilim (descendant of angels or something angelic whatsoever)? Maybe a dream? Like one of the dreams from Dream of the Endless realm. And then going rouge with Edwin. Maybe also an elf? He could be a lot of stuff.

Anyway yeah, sorry about that, I just had a lot of thoughts about that subject I wanted to express.

Of course anyone can have any opinion they want, unless it's directly harmful there's no right and wrong in holding opinions, I just explained why personally I feel a bit uncomfortable agreeing with those choices and I hc other stuff instead myself. It's all just personal opinions, how I perceive the characters myself since you sent me that ask probably asking for my opinion. Hope that helps!

Edit: damn I didn't notice how long it turned out sorry about that.

5, 8 for Charles, and 20 !

(aaaa sorry for taking time to answer I was trying to take a break from tumblr because I've become too addicted. I love getting asks please send me more if you'd like!)

5. The Devilin house.

I've talked about this before.

Getting to see those glimpses of Charles's trauma hurt me emotionally I connect to him so much.

I also love some things other people pointed out-

How there didn't turned out to be a supernatural cause for the murders at the end- the father was just insane, because the world is fucked up and they're not hiding from it throwing a big scary monster putting the blame on other causes like other shows.

I took it so for granted, yeah of course they won't shy away from showing real horrors and won't blame it on fantasy, it took me other people pointing it out to realise yeah other shows won't be like that.

And also how the problems weren't solved with violence, they never are in this show.

One thing the episode showed is that the circle of abuse is real. Answering fire with fire won't solve shit.

I didn't even caught that until other people pointed it out. It's another thing I greatly appreciate about this show.

To deal with your shit you can't do it alone, you have to lean on other people otherwise you'd just fall back again like Charles did. You have to let people in. Despite his dislike for her Edwin listened to Crystal and that's how they got out. He had to deal with crap, with his weakness- technology, if he wanted to get out it couldn't just be easy.

The episode captured all of that well, it captured the cycle of abuse phenomenally so yeah I love this case.

Damn that was long.

8. I have already answered Charles twice ((1)) ((2)), the second time I really elaborated on all my hcs for him, I think I forgot colour blind Charles but yes that's about it. Sorry I just answered it twice and I'm tired 8 have nothing else to add beyond what I already said. So go check that posts!

20. The (dead)boys. Nothing makes my heart giggle and laugh like seeing the boys acting like a dead married couple on acid.

The dynamic of the characters are so great I love the main squad.

Also seeing the cat king being the pathetic lover boy that he is in episode 7 (love him. That scene was great).

I wish I was joking saying this. Unfortunately I'm way too tired for any nonsense.

Dear dead boy detectives, I would really like my ability to sleep back. This is a genuine request.

I have been literally laying in bed after closing my eyes out tiredness for hours, yet I have yet to fall asleep. Instead the dead boy detectives have filled my every thought the entire time. I have been stuck in a state not being able to fall asleep thinking about them for literal hours (gay) straight without realising how long has passed.

You have taken my ability to sleep hostage, I kindly ask of you to return it. I have job tomorrow and I need to sleep.

Turns out Charles' cross earring is not really a cross?

I don't know if anyone noticed if it was obvious I just always thought it was a cross (maybe because I never wear my glasses lol).

I have been looking at Charles' photos to get a better look at his cross earring for cosplay purposes and then I discovered it's not a cross at all-

(yeah tumblr's quality is not the best but if you will find a high quality photos you can see it better, it's clearly not a cross).

It looks like some kind of a four- pointed star with elongated lower point? What sure as hell it doesn't look like a cross to me.

Does anyone know this symbol and what it means?

It makes a lot more sense for his character it's not a cross actually, I don't really see him as the cross wearing type personally.

Don't get me wrong, I love painland because they're the land of pain payneland dearly & I'm currently writing *multiple* fics about them.

But if I hear one more person saying shit about Crystal and saying she was gross for what she had with Charles I'll fucking scream.

How many dbda fics I'm writing at the moment? 5!

How many of them I am probably close to finish if I'll actually be able to dedicate my willpower to focus on them? Most!

What am I gonna finish soon? Eh.....

What I want to write? Something new!!

#8 Headcanons for Charles? ╰(⸝⸝⸝´꒳`⸝⸝⸝)╯

Sorry for taking time to answer!

Ohhhh. Charles my love!

Well this aren't my personal headcanons but they're one that I adopted.

Well demiromantic Charles, I talked about this before and I think this posts explains it pretty well and I completely support it.

Also using suspenders as a replacement for belts because belts reminds him of his dad.

ADHD Charles! Oh I love this ADHD messy boy and I resonate with him so much.

Also dyslexic Charles!

I think those hcs makes the fact that he and Edwin has their thing where Edwin is reading him stories even cuter.

I totally see how no matter how hard he tried to overcome his disabilities he was never good enough which made his home life more difficult (projecting? Whattt).

Oblivious bisexual Charles rights. Not really a hc but yeah, that boy is dumb he's just completely oblivious in the moment he just never considered that because of the heteronormative society he was raised in, it just never crossed his mind. I'm a full believer he's just slow in understanding stuff and he wants to take things slow with Edwin.

He's screaming bisexual we all in the fandom clocked him right away it's nothing special really. We all know he's bi. That's a bisexual disaster if I have ever seen one. (Emphasis on the disaster).

Also, Charles kept the lantern from when Edwin found him! And that was the lantern he used when he went back to hell. And another detail I didn't see anyone talking about he also kept the book Edwin read to him without he knew. Actually he kept following the next books coming out in this series.

I also love any type of hc that gives him any artistic hobby- artist, dancer, or anything really, any reason that he didn't fit the stereotypical masculine gender roles, and made him even a larger disappointment in his dad's eyes. Anything that made it harder for him. I'm a slut for angst what can I say. (Like I'm a Charles Rowland kinny it's pretty much obvious).

This is pretty much it I think!

Mostly I just love the work the show did with him. I don't feel like large and elaborate headcanons are needed him- the canon is already amazing. I just love some small pieces that gives even more depth to the canon lore.

This show is so good I don't need really big headcanons. I don't think I can top the canon.

I love people sending me asks! Pease send my more if you have any🫶

I haven't seen anyone talking about this so this is my time to shine and finally find a use for my autism. Molly is a (very old) slang word for homosexual. It's from the same origins of "Mary-Ann", sort of (Moll was a pet form of Mary).

When Edwin says "perhaps we should follow up with this Molly character." He literally just means a homosexual person, that's what he thinks he is saying.

Yeah there is no point just enjoy this information.

I know Charles is obviously bisexual within the context of the show (no way that boy is straight) and Steve Yackey officially said in an interview he and Edwin will "develop their relationship beyond friendship" in season 2 (if it will be able to happen of course).

But I still need DC to canonically confirm Charles as bi. I cannot go through this again. I am sick of baiting. Yes he's obviously bi but I still need it announced. I need it to be absolute, to shush anyone who would doubt it. I need to hear it.

It's pride month now DC, you have the perfect opportunity. It can't be any more perfect.

post was lightly edited because English is not my native language and I wanted to rephrase some stuff better

8, 3 and 5 from the dbda asks game! 💚

(writing this during small breaks at work because this is more important, also I'm bored. I'm so glad I got more asks!)

8. Headcanon!

Well you didn't specify any character and since I already did Charles then I'll pick a character myself-

Niko!

Niko would've been bff with Delirium of the Endless. When I saw Niko for the first time I was sure she was going to be related to Delirium somehow. The colours in her brain?? Her whole personality?? She's such a Delirium coded.

Turns out the colours were only from the sprites, unrelated to Delirium. It really disappointed me because Delirium is my favourite Sandman character and I really hoped to see something related to her.

So yeah Niko and Delirium would be besties, I really think they would really get along great and understand each other. They share the same side of the 'tism spec.

If Edwin can have an Endless bestie (or to be more accurate, an Endless that decided they like him and he's their friend now), Niko also can have an Endless.

3. Favourite client:

Oh damn. Well I like Monty, the cute tragic mommy issues little crow boy, so I guess it's not really a contest. Even if he was just a ruse. I also like the lighthouse keeper that was a reference to Neil Gaiman it was pretty funny character choice.

5. Favourite case:

The develin house murder. There's no question in that. I rewatched this episode so many times. I wanted to cry with Charles. He made me feel so much stuff. That episode hit me deeply and made me understand better some stuff about my own trauma.

I love Charles and I was glad I got to see that side of him, that wasn't so pretty. And I loved to see Edwin and Crystal's relationship developing.

Question number 11 on your reblog!

What animal would you like to see personified in DBD?

11. an animal you'd like to see personified for an AU instead of a [crow/cat/walrus]

Ohhhhh

This is hard. Because of crows weren't already out of the options crows/ ravens would be the animal I'd pick.

My favourite animal is wolves but all werewolves adaptations I saw so far are extremely bad adaptations of wolves.

This is extremely random but I'm an autistic person with special interests in animals so probably some sort of Indian exotic small cat. They have a lot of extremely exotic cats I really like them even though I'm more of a dog person. I'm actually huge on dogs I'm just obsessed with India's cats life.

And this show seemed to be worshipping cats anyway.

So yeah, any type of lynx, Caracal, leopard cat, Rusty Spotted Cat, or any of the other tons of cats types they have. Just some sort of an exotic Asiatic cat, one you don't usually see. That's what I want.

(but also a unicorn so it could spray Charles and Edwin rainbows and make those old timey boys embrace their gayness and get together already/j)

18, 13, 8[Charles] for the asks game please! :3

18. Something that scares me about the show:

Honestly I don't get scared easily. This show made me very emotional yeah but I watch horror movies all the time for fun so there wasn't anything there that had that effect on me really.

The only thing that scares me about the show is if Netflix won't renew it for a second season (and third, and forth, but let's start at least from a second season).

That has me terrified I'm actually shaking. I can't let that happen I love this show so much.

13. Fave proposed plot line I have seen:

Well not exactly a full plot, I saw all sort of stuff that were really interesting, but something I saw that really catched me on was Charles subconsciously flirting with Edwin. Not even realising he's doing that but he's just flirting with him. And then going to a crisis over it trying to realise his feelings.

Charles falling back slowly, without even understanding, but he falls slowly and he falls hard he wants to make sure his feelings, acting extremely careful about it.

That sort of talking I saw people say needs to be in season 2 is my favourite type of stuff I would like to see there.

Don't have any specific plot idea though. I'm just trusting the writers because what they've done so far was brills.

8. A hc (Charles):

Not original hc of mine, but demiromantic Charles!

I totally see him faking romantic feelings for girls mistaking sexual attraction to romantic attraction because he thinks he's supposed to fall in love with girls, until the feelings become reality, but don't think about being attracted to boys because of course boys are handsome isn't it like that for everyone? It doesn't mean he's romantically attracted to them he just finds them hot. That's normal right?.

Until Edwin comes along and then he's starting to develop real feelings for a guy.

So this in a post somewhere that explained it way better than I am and I really just adopted it into my core beliefs.

At this point I just refuse to believe Charles is not inlove with Edwin.

Like besides the fact he looks at him like he's the sun and stars and everything in the universe and all of that; it's so in character for Charles to fall for the first boy that ever showed him kindness. The first person that was ever nice to him, made him feel safe, cared for him as he died. After the way they met?? Of course Charles will bloody fall for Edwin, how couldn't he?

That's so in character of him.

Don't know what about you people but I'm a Charles Rowland he/they swag truther.

OMG I'm so flattered I was tagged! Thank you! I love this sort of stuff!

Last song I listened to: Boys Don't Cry by Oliver Cronin (I listened to it for Charles Rowland inspiration for the fic I'm writing). Also Punching Bag by PALAYE ROYALE (also for Charles inspiration).

Currently watching: Dead Boy Detectives, I'm emotionally incapable of moving on from this crazy good show at the moment. I have waited for it for years and it did not disappoint.

Sweet/Savoury/Spicy? I don't know. I can't handle spice although I like the taste, I really like both sweet and savoury but at the end of the day it's probably sweet for me lol.

Relationship status: single and confused as fuck about who am I attracted to/ how my attraction works (aro ace specs) so there's nothing to even talk about at the moment. Much like Edwin, I have no riz, unlike him, I don't have tons of people attracted to my autistic swag.

Current obsession: Dead Boy Detectives all the way baby. This hyperfixation is going strong. Also DC trans characters (Xanthe Zhou, Jules Jourdain, Galaxy, Aerie, etc. Mostly the Spirit World comic of Xanthe and John Constantine). And a few other vertigo characters (Tefé Holland John Constantine Madame Xanadu Lucifer and etc). Yeah I'm mostly a DC person.

Also Sandman! Specially Delirium. Delirium the love of my life I love her so much and I'm so excited for her to appear. Also Death Destruction and Desire but mostly Delirium (Del my love).

Tbh I don't know enough people to tag 9 or even 5 people I'm way too socially anxious for that, so I'll just tag 2 people that seemed really cool so far I would like to get to know better-

@that-trans-autistic-guy @shaylogic

Sorry if you were already tagged in that. Love your content!

9 people you'd like to get to know better

(but it's five, not nine)

I was tagged by the lovely @frankenstein-ate-my-left-shoe !

Last Song I listened to: Eye of the Night By Conan Gray, i've been obsessively listening to his new album on repeat

Currently Watching: I've been rewatching Dead Boy Detective on Netflix as well as Psych, and the the new Doctor Who because Ncuti Gatwa is a sweetheart.

Sweet/Savoury/Spicy?: Savoury, especially ketchup chips!

Relationship Status: Recently out of a relationship, i feel weirdly good about it.

Current Obsession: Steddie is never leaving my brain (obviously), but Dead Boy Detectives has been a sweet favourite of my mind lately!

The people i'd like to tag have no obligation to answer, just know that i like seeing you all on my dash: @sugarkat , @hexiewrites , @edwins-pain , @sourw0lfs , @little-birch-boy

Charles Rowland and Edwin Payne are so real, I too would've avoided understanding my sexuality or confronting with my trauma for decades.

I think the Cat King is at least part Fey?

The fey canonically exists in the Sandman Universe.

Their lore wasn't deeply explored in "The Dreaming: Waking Hours" where a major part of the plot took place in their realm, but they did seem to follow the traditional versions and go by the same rules.

Let's examine this:

Magical tricksters.

Blur the lines between good and evil, morally grey beings.

Time passes differently on realms of the fey.

Luck of understanding of boundaries. They'll get involved in your drama, they'll push you and invade your privacy.

Able to shift their appearance, wear disguise. The fey were shown to do that in the comics.

Known to be very liberated about sexualities. Fruity as fuck.

Don't obey the usual gender norms (CK wears a skirt and is very feminine).

Truth related powers in some versions???

Weakness to iron. (CK was beaten to death with an iron bar).

Extremely long life but they can die.

(Also go by title name/nicknames rather than more usual names? Because real names holds different weight).

(Also it would made hella sense for Desire to sleep with a Fey in my eyes but that's just me and my hc).

Just think about it.

Why do people behave like Edwin is the main character and Charles is just there to be his "bestie" low key making him "sidekick"??? Because it's starting to feel racist.

They go through the same amount of development throughout the show. Both of them have major story lines.

Just watched an interviewer introducing George and Jayden as "George, who plays Edwin. Jayden, who plays Edwin's best friend Charles."

I NEED YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU WHITE BOY. THEY BOTH BELONG TO EACH OTHER EQUALLY.

I love Edwin. But Charles is not his accessory. Treating Charles as anything less than equal feels racist.

This is my official request for Dead Boy Detectives prompts!

Preferably about Edwin and Charles. Especially more about Charles but not necessarily.

I just finished my fanfic and I'm desperate for new ideas, I want to keep writing about them.

Comments, ask box, and dm, are all open.

Any prompt would be appreciated🫶

Finally finished my Dead Boy Detectives fic!

It's just fluff about Edwin and Charles. The boys took control over my head I can't write or read anything else.

Warnings: none. It's just fluff.

Word count: 2,000 words.

Relationships: Edwin Payne/Charles Rowland, Edwin Payne&Charles Rowland.

Summary: After the hell confession, Edwin tries to refrain from touching Charles, to not make him feel like he's overstepping the bounds of a normal friendship.

Charles, that loves touch, is sick of it. And confronts Edwin what's going on?

(Including kissing and cuddling later).

Or basically just Edwin tries to stay away and Charles pulling him close.

(Very fluff no plot).

Heavily inspired by this tumblr post.

Edwin Payne's flag be like:

(sorry the quality is not so great Tumblr is being shit for some reason)

(this is my personal design, if other people want to use it for other stuff they're more than welcome just with credit for the design!)

The people that are Fizarolli fans from Helluva Boss are also Charles Rowland fans I said what I said.

My deepest apologies for my followers that followed me for other stuff like bat family or hell-verse content and all I talk about is dbd now.

(This show is so good just give it a chance).

I know most of the DBDA fandom probably thinks at paineland at the trope of "x fell first, xx fell harder" is Edwin falling first and Charles now falling harder; because Edwin was obviously shown first to express his feelings.

But consider this-

Charles falling in love with Edwin slowly a little more every day, falling a bit deeper for him every day they spent side by side.

And at some point later- Edwin is crushing hard. Realizing "oh shit, I love him-" and falling hard in a chaotic storm of feeling he doesn't know how to deal with, he's a complete mess.

Idk, I personally prefer the second version more but both options can be great interpretations of their dynamic.

A conversation I had with my friend while they were watching dbd ep 4:

My friend: (learning about Charles' backstory) oh god did that boy ever had a happy day in his life?

Me, meaning it with all of my heart: anyday that Edwin was there.

Me realizing a few moments later: oh wait in his life? So no.

Dead Boy Detectives's fanarts artists- where are all the fanarts of Charles wearing a skirt?

How did people got "a straight guy rejecting a gay guy" from "I can't answer you right now but we have forever to figure it out" Charles Rowland I'll never understand.