Asking For Help From Protector To Protector..... How Does One Stop Persecutors From Seeking Out People

you aren't a bad person if your source is terrible.

you aren't a bad person if your source is an abuser.

you aren't a bad person if your source is a rapist.

you aren't a bad person if your source has a problematic creator.

you aren't a bad person if your source is anything, anything.

However, if you blame an introject for their source, tell them to kill themselves for it, treat them like their source when they tell you not too, push boundaries or persistently ask them questions, try and make it like they should be extremely ashamed and horrified 24/7 atwhere they introjected from. You are an asshole.

i hate forgetting shit because wdym today is Valentine’s Day?? and they tell me yeah it’s Valentine’s Day and 5 minutes later i forget it’s Valentine’s Day??

anyone else need like. verbal confirmation that someone is your friend. like aaa i cant call you my friend if you haven't confirmed it yet!!! that's rude!!! and it only works in your case of course

SYSTEM INTRO

cr: @kodaswrld (lace dividers), @boxx-town ('this collective is always open to making friends!'), @zero-templates (‘this system's alters front together'), @forrest-system-userboxes ('this system is often blurry')

hey! we're a nameless did system! this is sort of here as a recovery blog, and also to share our experiences, including ones that may be more disturbing and less talked about in this community- we're endo-friendly and neutral about most things- you do your own thing, but just don't involve us in the discourse. ^^

those who intend to involve this blog in syscourse or make it an unsafe place for systems of all origins and communities, please block us. - your opinions are valid, but this is meant to be a safe space for *all* systems. you may follow this blog if you don't believe our beliefs, but please keep those opinions to yourself unless requested. any hate comments or blogs will be blocked without notice. we're often blurry and co-con, so there often won't be any sign-offs of any sorts, but we try our best... also please don't mind our forgetfulness and lack of responses at times. we're busy, have heavy amnesia, and are physically and mentally disabled.

any triggering topics we may bring up shall be spoilered properly for those who are not in the correct headspace to read that type of content, but please be mindful that we will *not* censor our experiences. we will talk about them. it's your choice whether or not to read them. (**note: while we try our best to spoiler triggering topics properly, we don’t have the greatest of what may be considered triggering besides a few widely known ones due to desensitization. if something should require a tw that we haven’t added, please inform us promptly.**)

This intro is in the process of being reworked. Information may not be accurate.

Syscourse Speedrun

- Endogenic means a system formed for reasons not correlated to trauma

- Endogenic does NOT mean a complete lack of trauma in an individual

- Endogenics, Pro-Endos and adjacent fundamentally view systemhood differently and outside of solely disordered experiences

That said...

- Complex Dissociative Disorders (DID/OSDD/Etc) have well known and studied ties to trauma, with complexity rising from prolonged and severe cases.

- Trauma is not part of diagnostic criteria to include those who cannot remember their trauma due to dissociation. Not because it isn't an important or known factor.

- Integration =/= Fusion, Integration is the lessening of dissociative barriers and a systems ability to function together. Fusion is the merging of parts.

- Final fusion and functional multiplicity are both viable end goals and up to the systems desires and needs. Integration is required for both of these.

- People are allowed to be affected positively AND negatively by their disorders and life experiences.

- People are also allowed to view their disorders in whatever way they desire

- It is not your job to police people because you think what they're doing is harmful for them.

- It is also not your job to tell people they have trauma that they just don't know about.

- Dissociation is a spectrum.

- Other disorders experience dissociative parts with less elaboration like those with DID/OSDD/Etc

- Westernized Tulpamancy and Tulpas as known today are not directly related to Tibetan Buddist Nirmanakaya or Sprul-pa. Westernized Tulpamancy comes from 20th century mystic explorers, who developed these ideas mostly independently.

- Vajrayana and Mahayana Buddhism are open and inclusive religions anyway, but what Tulpamancers practice is very different.

- There is a conversation to be had about the suppression of religious freedom that has affected Tibetan Buddhism, but it's still not a closed practice.

- Something here about Theosophy in relation to Westernized Tulpamancy

- Plural is not solely synonymous with system, and not everyone who identifies as plural is a system.

- Not every system will identify as plural either.

- The term plural has ties to other non-system communities such as alterhumanity.

- Plural is an inherently inclusive term.

- People are allowed to be wrong about their origins in whatever potential way.

- Being wrong is not equivalent to faking.

- Origins are self applied labels and tell you very little about a person and their system

- Origins can and often do overlap.

- Endogenic origins does not mean a system cannot be diagnosed and meet criteria for a CDD.

- People are allowed to view and label their parts in whatever way is best for them.

- System accountability is important. You are one tangible entity and you take responsibility for the things that occur because of your system.

- Discourse stances do not make a person or space inherently safer or more dangerous.

- People's actions speak louder than labels, and anyone can be a horrible person.

- Its up to a system to determine their own boundaries and needs.

- You don't need to argue if your boundaries differ from someone else's; enforce your own.

- Block people and topics that make you uncomfortable and especially if they're potentially triggering.

- Genuinely, please just learn to be friends with the block button.

- Harassment is bad no matter who you are.

- Yes it's still bad if you disagree with someone or think they're in the wrong.

- Criticism is not harassment.

- Even if you don't intent to change your mind, facilitating genuine conversation with people instead of assuming things about them or their experiences will contribute to a better interaction for both sides.

- Ableism is bad.

- Stop using things like delusional as Insults or treating people with ficticious disorder poorly.

- Stop treating mentally ill adults as inherently incapable of functioning or dictating things for themselves.

- Sanism is Also bad.

- Fake claiming is bad.

- Stop insinuating that pro-endos (and adjacent) aren't traumatized, aren't systems or can't have CDDs.

- Yes, again, fake claiming is bad even if you don't like or disagree with someone.

- Stop saying its "so easy" to tell who fakers are.

- The psychiatric and mental health systems are full of flaws.

- Diagnosis is a privilege for some and isn't for others.

- Some people may not want or desire a diagnosis for many reasons. This does not make their problems any less than.

- Being medically recognized is just as valid as having a diagnosis.

- Yes, therapists can diagnose people with things. A title does not equal credentials.

- If a therapist cannot diagnose you due to their credentials or other factors but suspects something, they will refer you to another professional who can for evaluation.

- Some therapists will choose of their own volition not to diagnose patients for varying reasons.

- Self diagnosis and self suspecting isn't a bad thing. Research is always encouraged for accuracy of what you suspect.

- The resources people find through self diagnosis even if not the right thing to suspect can be helpful for someone's situation.

- Reiterating here again that being wrong isn't faking, and that being wrong isn't a bad thing.

- Being able to help yourself cope is a good thing.

- Recognizing your symptoms if you intend to speak to a professional is also a good thing.

People are all different, be kind.

If you have questions I'm glad to talk, if you are aggressive or just trying to start something, you will be blocked :)

when you try to share a silly story from your past and they look at you in horror and ask if youre okay

my musclesss :(((

no because tell me why these stupid ass head motherfuckers are always the most active at the least important times. like they wont show up during actually important shit but when somebody thinks about what the weakest bone in the body is, FIFTEEN PEOPLE SUDDENLY APPEAR????

arghh we just realized we’re genuinely in love with someone what the shit

insert funny thing here about plurality because i remember i had this really funny idea for a post in my head but now its forever lost to the void that is my subconscious