Ty Blackthorn - Blog Posts

Hey y’all! Myself and my friend noticed there was a big hole in the TSC fandom - namely, that there isn’t a Discord server for us all to come together and appreciate/freak out over our favourite Shadowhunters.

So we decided to fix it! Here is your official notice of the creation of The Downworld, a place for us to talk theories, go crazy over our beloved ships, worship those characters that maybe don’t get enough love fandom-wide, and of course, appreciate the absolute genius that is Cassandra Clare.

All we ask is that you be kind and respectful to each other, and agree to our server rules that’ll you see when you join. The server is also 18+ only, so unfortunately we won’t be able to allow minors to join.

If you’d be interested in joining, please feel free to reach out to me or @timesconvert and we’ll get the ball rolling - don’t be scared; unlike Jordan, we don’t bite!

kit and ty are going to absolutely serve the trope “someone who believes they are hard to love x someone who loves them like it’s breathing”

saw someone say that in the first chapter of LkoF Dru mentioned kit having picked up British isms? that's not in the version I found so is there another version or is that from sm else entirely? thanks!!

sobbing. kitty? more like christibs

but also, because i commented this on another post like this and i have decided to mention it here. i propose to you: chris and ty. its not kitty. its christy now.

Chris and Tibs sound like a dudebro homophobic homosexual versions of Kit and Ty.

SOBS.

There is one random thought that just hasn’t left my mind since we discovered that Kit still dreams about Ty.

The last scene that Kit narrates in QoAaD where he is looking down at Ty and he says how he was away from all the noise, and the he said he hated himself in that moment because he wanted to go down there and protect Ty from all the noise. And I KNOW I just KNOW that he’s had at least ONE dream in which he went against his better judgement and instead of leaving with Jem and Tessa, he went down there with Ty.

WAIIIIIIITTTTT JUST ONE MOMENT

HUHHHHHHHHHHH

with a few different people posting about their predictions for twp, a common thread I've noticed is there's usually something regarding Ty finding out about Kit being the First Heir.... I see we've all forgotten about Ty being up that tree lmao

when the whole fandom is just geniuses lol

random thought I had the other day but never shared but. Ty lowkey parallels King David. I was thinking about QOAAD & the Battle on the Imperishable Fields, and how it's kinda weird Ty is mentioned multiple times to be using slingshot because that's not a typical shadowhunter weapon we see. then it occurred to me that literally a battle where giants show up and Ty helps "slay" them so to speak. like David & Goliath, which is also previously mentioned in QOAAD by Emma

where Julian's words are equated to David's stones. and by the way, David is said to have five stone and who's the fifth Blackthorn to try & speak to Julian & Emma? Ty. and this is what happens when he does.

not only that but King David of David & Goliath fame is also the David of (biblical) David & Jonathan fame, which the parabatai law draws inspiration from. aka the thing actively going wrong at that very moment. Biblical Jonathan also dies btw. and you wanna know what the icing on the the cake is? David's dad's name is Jesse.

theres no way this isn't a purposeful reference but I have no idea if it's like. just CC having fun or something that had Implications. food for thought.

Predictions for twp: (this is basically just me manifesting, some random theories, and the occasional actual prediction)

Kit gives Jessa a heart attack (this ones a given)

kitty horrendously, hopelessly, completely and utterly fail to communicate for majority of the first book

dru forgets ash exists. again. x2.

kitty kiss in first book (pLEASE-)

morgenthorn kiss in first book (...am i pushing it a bit?)

...herongraystairs??? (pleasepleaseplease)

Thule!Ty (i saw this cool post abt thule being a 'cracked mirror' of the og world, so livvy mightve tried to revive ty instead of vice versa?), OR

Lucifer somehow possesses Ty (honestly considering the dream this seems more and more likely...)

In relation to that, maybe ty reviving (reghosting?? re-kinda-viving?) livvy opened up a way for lucifer to enter their world, or possess ty? maybe it left him 'unprotected', maybe it made a tear in the divide between worlds, smth like that (based on this)

Too many serious ones, time for some sillies: clace and/or sizzy wedding (this ones more 'light-hearted' than 'silly', but eh)

alec is completely done. hes so over it. sick of their bs.

magnus is also done w the sh's bs, like he is in every book, and like in every book he contradicts his most recent claim that he will not deal with whatevers next and helps. and then says again that hell leave them to deal with whatevers next themselves. which he will definitely not do.

Magnus shows up (again) (guaranteed) (true main character tbh) (hes shown up in every. single. book. yes, even the companion books) (cant complain tho <333)

This post. ive gotta include it. its a pattern by now, and theyre gonna be in faerie, sooo....

kitty angry first kiss. imagine. like, "u hate me, you dont love me back!" "ffs i do!" *smooshes faces together* (can yall tell im tired??? im going craaazyyyyy)

ohh yeah and... ash and jamie rivalry-ish, except its a bit one-sided and ash is deffo more determined than jamie

cc is gonna leave us on a cliffhanger for one duo and then switch to the other. from morgenthorn to kitty to morgenthorn to kitty again and again at the most inopportune moments. well b on the edge of our seats the entire time istg

I... think thats it??? anyways stay tuned for the part two thats probs coming

oh no he deffo just disappears. goes poof. hell be on his roadtrip w ty, chilling (as much as he can considering, yk. everything), and back home jessa will be freaking tf out, thinking hes been kidnapped (or kitnapped- k ill go see myself out) or smth

You know what I’m really curious about? How the fuck will Jessa let Kit go with Ty?? JUST LIKE THAT??? They’ve been protecting him for years with all the wards and stuff and they will just agree to let him go for probably a crazily dangerous (for him at least) mission??? There has to be smth to it, either Kit just disappears from home or idkkkkkk

PLEASE.

Give me Tiberius Blackthorn gay panicking over Kit or give me death

I NEED his reactions to older brother Kit, softened by love Kit, denim jacket Kit, finally eating well and getting sunlight Kit who probably looks even better than when Ty first fell in love Kit

GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME

why. why.

friendly reminder that Ty cried for the first time in a long time when Kit said he wishes he never met him

yall. i was going through some of cc's old newsletters, and on the one of april 8th (for me, might be like 9th or 7th for yall??) last year (2024), so exactly one year ago, she was talking abt when shed get the books she was working on released. she also mentioned how itd been sold tot the publisher around october the year before that (which is when she was able to get started writing). and one thing she said was that it takes at least 1 year to write a book. its been a year since she said that.... over a year since she was able to get started....

so, in conclusion, cc is, at the very least, relatively close to finishing tlkof.

now, i saw another post point out that the tsc books have had a trend of the main ship(s) kissing in the first book (dont quote me on this, i havent checked, im just trusting the post.)

(can u see where im going with this?)

all of this together means that....

DRUMROLL PLEASE......

CHANCES ARE, KITTY AND/OR MORGENTHORN'S CANNON FIRST KISS SCENE(S) MAY ALREADY BE WRITTEN

never underestimate a herondale in love

You know what I’m really curious about? How the fuck will Jessa let Kit go with Ty?? JUST LIKE THAT??? They’ve been protecting him for years with all the wards and stuff and they will just agree to let him go for probably a crazily dangerous (for him at least) mission??? There has to be smth to it, either Kit just disappears from home or idkkkkkk

YES.

Does Kit qualify as a simp for Ty? (not in a bad way, I love simps)

randomly reminding that i'll read Ty's pov for the first time ever in twp

miss rabbit fainted

randomly reminding that Herongraystairs will finally happen in twp

miss rabbit fainted again

god. dont remind me

i just wanna read twp already 😭😭😭

Do you all understand that we will live with this 2nd chapter theories for another fucking year….

You don’t even know what type of a celestial being I will turn into while reading Ty’s pov for the first time, you do not know

Count the hours count the days count the years I’ll spend in that place

Do you think Kit Herondale has ADHD? and do you think that because Ty is autistic, his POV is very different when he writes?

I guess I'd say that if you as someone with ADHD relates to Kit, that is cool. Like I said, there's not a wrong way to relate to a character. But I didn't write him consciously as someone with ADHD because if I had I would have done what I did writing Ty — months of research and not writing the character without consulting with sensitivity readers who themselves were people with autism. I wouldn't have felt I was doing a character with ADHD justice without doing all those things.

I do think Ty's neurodivergence would impact his narration of a story, yes, so I won't be (and am not currently) going to be writing any parts about Ty (whether he narrates them directly or not) without multiple sensitivity readers consulting before they're edited. That is why you have not seen much from Ty snippet wise from TWP. I would not even want to post a first draft publicly without consultation, given the possibility of hurting or upsetting someone with representation that doesn't feel right.

If by "weird" relationship u mean ty's dad is dead, yeah

Clary and tiberus

1) obssession with herondales

2) brought loved ones back from dead

3) weird relationship with their father.

NEW KIT POV CHAPTER????? WHERE?????

this has been the inside of my head since reading the new kit pov chapter

"You really think that's such a good idea?" Kit said. "I mean, your house is pretty screwed up, what with your agoraphobia uncle and your weird brother.""

Julian's hands tightened on the wheel, but the only thing he said was, "Ty isn't weird."

"I meant Mark," said Kit. There was an odd pause. "Ty isn't weird," Kit added. "He's just autistic."

-Lord Of Shadows

"Which means I can’t ever send this and you can’t ever read it. I’ll burn it in the garden when I’m done writing it so I’m not tempted to send it."

Kit and Ty

TDA gang made by artbreeder

Emma

Julian

Mark (couldn't get the heterochromia tho)

Cristina

Livvy

Ty

Kit

Dru

Tavvy

Kieran

Diana

Diego

Jaime

So who's ready for today's sobh? Not me

We are a whole circus for thinking Kit and Ty will meet before TWP 🥲

Okay so I posted this a while ago but after reading QOAD I realised this is exactly what happened!! (After all the summoning stuff ya know) so now I feel really smart

LOS SPOILERS

Because Kit can see ghost that stayed on earth (like Jessamine in the London institute) does that mean he might see Livy if she stayed to look over her brothers and sisters (mostly Ty) and would she be following them or staying in the Los Angeles institute?

Tiberius Blackthorn: mood board

The fact that Kit writes to Ty feels like something he wouldn’t have started doing just now, but instead has been doing for a while. They’re so in love with one another!! I cannot fathom my excitement for TWP

Kit to Ty

Ty,

I need someone to talk to and I don’t want it to be Julian or Emma. Or Jem or Tessa. So it’ll have to be you. Which means I can’t ever send this and you can’t ever read it. I’ll burn it in the garden when I’m done writing it so I’m not tempted to send it.

The gardens here are really excellent, by the way. I guess you know that since you’ve been here. There’s an old Georgian greenhouse, and a little pond with lilies and frogs and benches to watch them, and a walled garden, and it’s just very nice to walk around here with Mina. I never had a sister or brother before, you know that, but being with Mina makes me realize more about how you felt about Livvy. Still feel about Livvy I guess. I’m not saying I forgive you. Just maybe I understand more.

Blackthorn Hall is still being restored, of course, and there are faeries everywhere doing the restorations. They’re brownies, apparently, and even though they aren’t doing anything that interesting—weeding and carrying wheelbarrows of dirt and whatever—I can’t stop watching them. I have hardly seen any faeries at all since—well, since we were in that battle with them. I guess I didn’t realize how strictly I was being kept apart from them. Until now.

I should really stay away from them, because every time I get close enough for them to talk to me, they do something to freak me out. The head builder, this guy Round Tom— he’s not even that round, honestly — anyway the first time Round Tom saw me he did a little thing where he jumped in a circle and made some odd gestures in the air, and then bowed in my direction. I just turned around on my heel and walked off in the other direction like I had just remembered I forgot something.

And then General Winter, like Kieran’s General Winter, was there helping out—Julian says he’s there to keep all the workers in line since they are scared of General Winter but not Round Tom—and he knew I was the First Heir. Like the Riders did.

The Riders whose horses I made disappear. Or something. I don’t know if they ever came back. No one seems to know.

I tried to pretend I didn’t hear General Winter either but we were just out in the open and it would have been way too obvious. So when he addressed me as First Heir all I could think of to say was, “That’s me. Or at least that’s what I’ve been told.”

“If you’ve been told,” he said, “then it is true, since we do not lie.”

I wanted to say buddy, I worked at the Los Angeles Shadow Market for years. Faeries do all kinds of sketchy stuff. Instead I just said, “I don’t really know what I’m supposed to do about it.”

 General Winter watched me with this thoughtful look on his face, and said, “You need do nothing about it, yet. Indeed, at this moment that might be the wisest course of action. For things are strange in Faerie.”

“What do you mean?” I said.

“There are disturbances,” he said slowly. “Rumors swirl about the Seelie Court. And Mother Hawthorn walks again.”

BI could ask him what any of that meant, Round Tom came rushing over. “Cousins.” (I had forgotten faeries sometimes addressed each other like that, and it gave me a little shiver, like he was saying, you are one of us.) “I have found something. Please come with me.”

He led us around to one of the big plane trees. A little ways away from the trunk was a huge hole, and then on the other side of the tree were two sawhorses across which balanced a coffin.

At least I think it was a coffin. It was really busted up, half-rotted, cracked everywhere, caked in dirt. It was obviously the thing that had come out of the hole.

“A tomb?” said General Winter as we got closer, but Round Tom was shaking his head.

“We would not have disturbed a tomb,” said Round Tom. “But none lie buried here. Only magic, of a dark and powerful kind.” He stepped back. “Look inside.”

I came closer. There was indeed a bunch of random stuff inside the coffin. It looked like—well, you know how old Egyptian pharaohs were buried with all their belongings? It was like that, I assume for a Shadowhunter, except the belongings were a weird assortment. It was dirty and falling apart and mostly just junk—papers and little jars and bits of fabric and the hilt of a sword with no blade, that kind of thing.

“How old is it?” I said, and Round Tom reached it and fished out a liquor bottle. The label was pretty faded and ripped but it was a printed label, in a Victorian style. I wondered if Jem or Tessa would have any guess whose stuff it could be.

“You said there was magic here?” I said.

“Dark magic,” Round Tom said gravely. “Wild magic.”

“The curse?” said General Winter.

Round Tom’s expression cleared and he shrugged. “Perhaps not. It’s actually much less demonic in nature than the curse on the house. But emanating from the foot of an unremarkable tree it bore exploration. There are two items that might be of further interest.”

He cleared away some of the mess and revealed a scabbard. It was a very nice scabbard. Sorry, that doesn’t really capture it. A very very nice scabbard. It needed some cleaning up, but it was obviously beautiful and, I’m sure, valuable. It was steel but covered in gold inlay all over in the shape of leaves and birds. There were some runes on it, too, so it was definitely a Shadowhunter’s at some point.

“Nice,” I said.

“It is more than ‘nice,’” General Winter said. “It is clearly the work of Lady Melusine herself. See how it has not deteriorated at all?”

Round Tom looked important. “And yet it is the less interesting of the two pieces,” he said. With a great dramatic gesture that he had clearly practiced ahead of time, he pushed all of the junk to one side in the coffin, leaving—

“Is that…a gun?” I said.

“One of those mundane weapons, yes,” said Round Tom. He picked it up as though it might go off, though it was rusty and covered in dirt. It was a revolver. It didn’t look any different than revolvers from a million gangster movies, or Westerns—I guess if I were really sending this to Ty I would have to explain what a Western was.

Anyway the big difference was this gun was covered in etchings and runes and words and was obviously magic af. (Which means . . . oh, never mind what it means.)

“But Shadowhunters don’t use guns,” I said.

“They never have,” General Winter agreed. He picked up the gun with a surprising amount of familiarity, and sighted along it in the direction of a nearby tree. He tried to fire and it just clicked — the cylinder didn’t even turn.

“Rusted shut, probably,” said Tom. General Winter handed it to me to look at. I’m not good enough with runes to know any of the ones that were on it. I pointed it at the same tree, kind of as a joke, kind of just to feel how heavy it was, and pulled the trigger, and there was a huge BANG and a bunch of wood splinters exploded from the tree.

My arm kicked back from the force of the shot. And we all stared. My ears were buzzing, but I thought I heard Round Tom say something to General Winter. I’m pretty sure the words First Heir were in there.

Certainly when I looked at them again, at Round Tom and General Winter, their expressions were guarded. Closed.

“Perhaps we should take this item inside and see if the other Nephilim recognize anything about it,” General Winter said flatly.

 “I’m sure it just only works for Shadowhunters,” I told General Winter, but he just gave me kind of a troubled look and said nothing. “Anyway. I’ll bring it in.”

I could feel General Winter and Round Tom watching me as I ran across the lawn and into the house. Jem and Tessa were sitting on a couch in the drawing-room, watching Mina coloring with crayons on some butcher paper.

The moment I came in holding the gun both of them looked utterly shocked. Tessa got to her feet and moved between me and Mina. I told myself she was standing between the gun and Mina, but it still felt rotten.

“What—” said Jem, standing up, but he didn’t finish the sentence. He just stared at me, and the gun.

“Round Tom found it in the garden,” I said. “Is this a gun for Shadowhunters?” I could feel my voice getting tighter. “Shadowhunters don’t use guns.”

“Long ago, Christopher Lightwood tried to create a gun that Shadowhunters could fire,” said Tessa. She was still staring at the gun.

 “It was in a coffin,” I said. “With a bunch of other stuff. A broken sword, and a fancy scabbard.”

“I wondered what he did with it,” said Jem. He? Who was he?

Jem and Tessa exchanged a look.  “The gun belonged to my son James,” she said. I felt kind of sick. Tessa hardly ever talked about her children with Will. “He was the only one who could use it. It would not fire in anyone’s hands but his.”

“I fired it,” I said.

They both looked stunned, and not in a good way. 

“You are very special, Kit,” Jem said. “You are the First Heir. We don’t yet know the extent of how that power works in you.”

“Or perhaps it is just that he has faerie blood,” said Tessa.

I could have said that it definitely wasn’t just faerie blood because General Winter couldn’t use the gun and he doesn’t only have faerie blood, he has a full faerie body with faerie organs and everything. But I didn’t say anything. I just felt a weird feeling in my stomach. I said I would put the gun away and not use it, and Jem and Tessa seemed to feel that was the best thing I could do, and Mina piped up and said “Gun!” and then I felt like the worst person on earth.

So now it’s late and I’m up writing this letter to you that I am going to burn when I’m done, because I can’t sleep. Because I don’t want to be the only person in the world who can fire a magic gun. I don’t want General Winter to straighten up when I’m nearby like I outrank him. I don’t want any of this. I had five minutes where I got to think, oh neat, I found this cool-looking gun and I bet there’s a story behind it, I wonder if they’ll let me keep it or if it needs to go to a museum or something. And then I fired it and instantly—just another thing that’s weird about me.

Good night, Ty. I’ll never send this, and you’ll never read it.

Kit

I was expecting so much more. Shouldn’t have underestimated the kitty angst…

Ty to Emma