Has Zeke Ever Given Louise A Nickname Yet? I Think In The Episode "Stuck In The Kitchen With You" They

Steven Universe + MBTI

Help Former Archie Artists!

Yesterday’s confirmation of the official Sonic comics being cancelled was a heavy blow to a lot of us.  Over 20 years’ worth of storytelling and mythology unique in the Sonic franchise has disappeared with little more than a quiet murmur.  Our project isn’t going anywhere, and despite our rocky release schedule I hope we can help somewhat fill the void left in many a fan’s hearts.  However, we fans are not the only victims here.  While we’ve been desperately waiting for some sort of news regarding the comic’s fate these last six months, the creative team in charge of the comic has been struggling to make ends meet without their main source of income.  The cancellation was as abrupt to them as it was to us, probably even more so because we at least had half a year to let the idea sink in.  For many years they’ve delivered us quality writing and artwork that made Archie Sonic as enjoyable as it was, and now it’s our time to return the favor.  Below you can see the links to several of the Archie team’s Patreon pages (the ones I could find at least, please let us know if we missed any).  Make a pledge if you can, or at least help spread the word.  No matter how little of an amount you can donate, every bit will help them.  The creation of Archie Sonic Online in the first place is proof of what fans are capable of when they band together under a common goal.  Now, we need to do the same thing for the sake of the Archie team and their families.  We implore you all to do the right thing, not as fellow Archie fans, but as fellow human beings who wish each other the best in life.

Ian Flynn: https://www.patreon.com/BumbleKast

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Adam Bryce Thomas: https://www.patreon.com/AdamThomas

Evan Stanley: https://www.patreon.com/EvanStanley

Matt Herms: https://www.patreon.com/mattherms

Not too fond of how I titled it. Nonetheless here it is! Honestly, I have two reasons as to why I made this.

1. I wanted to update Adult Debora's body type to be a bit chubby and turn her from a rectangle-shaped body to a pear-shaped body.

2. I felt like drawing Renata, Jackie, Wolfgang, Renata, and Edmund for CallMeNettie from fanfiction/AO3 so people could have some visual representation of what they look like in her "Slice of Life" series.

I also added Lorenzo and Siobhan into the image because they will eventually be relevant in my own spinoff for Nettie's story (more so Siobhan than Lorenzo) and I wanted to make an adult design for them for later.

Anyway, I hope you like the designs. There's going to be a part two to this that is just going to be me designing Debmund outfits that were either mentioned in Nettie's story or will be a thing eventually in my own story.

P.S. Hucksley is my headcanon last name for Edmund. It's not canon in Nettie's story yet but she gave me permission to use this last name in the spinoff whenever I get to it.

The irony of this gif is that Niles actually wrote a Seinfeld fan fiction (At least I think it was Seinfeld) and Fran definitely knew about the fan fiction because she was trying to get Niles back into reality and tell him the show was over. The punchline was that Niles wasn't carry papers of his fanfiction and Fran assumed wrong. I just wish I could remember the name of the episode.

80% of my time is spent reading fanfic

So thanks to all writers

Great analysis of both uses of the boys as villains. The way she portrayed Jimmy Jr. in her story is so interesting. To try to further analyze Tina's story. I feel that making Jimmy Jr. the villain and his motivation also links to Tina's desire of wanting him to be more infatuated with her than he acts now. Tina wants Jimmy Jr. to want her as much as she wants him.

However, the majority of the moments that were close to the case for Tina was when Jimmy Jr. got jealous of Tina being interested in boys that weren't him. So what better way to express that desire of wanting Jimmy Jr. to be obsessed with her than by making him the villain of her story that is willing to exterminate the world? That way there's no doubt that they will be together forever. Though further into the story we see Dark JJ doesn't want to marry Tina out of love but possession. If it was for love, Jimmy Jr. would want to dance with her at their wedding, but no, he tells her outright that he wants to dance on his own. Probably not wanting Tina to cramp his style I assume. Maybe this is Tina subconsciously telling herself that JJ's jealousy is not linked with love but possession. I mean, Jimmy Jr. does like Tina, but he's not ready to handle all of her at the age of 13. I also feel Jimmy Jr's feelings for Tina are more linked to liking how much she likes him more than him actually liking her. This makes sense given his possessiveness when she explores other options but wishy-washy when she has her attention on him.

Jimmy Jr. doesn't have the best home life so it would make sense why he's possessive with Tina and Zeke. He doesn't want to lose the few good things he has in his life, even though he doesn't treat them that well when he does have them. He's in a constant push and pull of wanting to keep his loved ones close but not too close that they could hurt him because he already knows the feeling of being hurt by his parents (mostly his dad, his mom is probably fine). Jimmy Jr. doesn't want to lose the attention Tina provides, but he doesn't feel comfortable giving the same amount she gives him because that's simply not in his nature. Tina is also no angel either so it's understandable why JJ would want to keep his distance when Tina gets creepy. TLDR, Tina's story is linked to her desire for Jimmy Jr's feelings for her to be as intense as it is for her. She wants to be the woman that is so loved that one guy is willing to wipe out the entire population minus her, JJ, Zeke, and the Boyz For Now just to be with her. Though she also subconsciously tells herself a possessive love is super toxic and not something you should strive for. P.S. Also to add. Even as Zeke is helping JJ wipe out the population, Tina still portrays him as cordial and even taking the time to say hi to her and offering bean dip. Also, Tina and Zeke have a red-and-blue clothing dynamic in her story which I love. How can you say they aren't meant to be when they're wearing red and blue respectively in Tina's story!?/hj XD

Thinking so hard about Tina writing JJ as a villain Vs. Her writing Zeke as a villain

Okay, I have to say this before someone else does! Gene blowing a kiss at Linda was just so cute and wholesome! Gene was just so happy to have his mom at school with him. X3

Shadows of the Old World Main Party, but in Fancy Clothes:

This is an au idea I wanted to do for the team. Everything is the same, except a specific spoiler event never happened and they all got to wear fancy clothes/accessories for a formal event. The idea first came about when I decided I really wanted the series to have a ball episode at least once, mostly for shipping reasons but still XD. I'm still very much an Olwint shipper over Oldrian, but I needed to know my audience and cater to the more popular ship. It's still my au though, so I can still say Flint gets the last dance with Olwen, so to speak, in the end. lol I'm so glad to finally have closure on this idea. Hope you all enjoy what I made.

Congratulations! Your addition made me go over 200 notes. XD This is now my most popular post as far as I know, so thank you. Other than that, good luck if you end up watching every episode involving Zeke making a comment about Tina. I'm genuinely looking forward to the results if you update. Also I've glad you find the caption amusing. The original meme had a swear and that's not my style. So, I censored it with something that's still technically a swear nowadays but I still live in the 90s/early 2000s so it's okay. XD

Linda: But trying to make people think you're cool is exhausting. And when you stop trying, suddenly the next person you talk to thinks you're the best person ever.

Cue the time-passing montage of Tina learning to let go of that embarrassing moment and stop trying to be cool. Most of the time it's with her family, at the restaurant, or by herself just investing herself in her favorite music again. However, there's this one frame I'm convinced has subtle symbolism!

The only time Zeke appears in the episode and it's to be in front of Tina while she looks out the window still sad from the event. Due to how this scene was set up it really looks like it's implying that Zeke is one of those that would think Tina is "the best person ever". However, Tina is too busy being sad to notice what's already in front of her. I mean, the window perfectly frames Zeke in (and sweet Susmita gets her moment too, even if it's just her hair and some of her skin) when they literally could have done whatever they wanted and changed the character in the seat in front of Tina. Heck, Tina could have been in the last seat and further symbolize the loneliness/self-pity Tina is feeling. It's possible they just wanted to stick with accurate continuity and have Tina, Zeke, Susmita, and the rest be in the same seating arrangements as they were in "Cheaty Cheaty Bang Bang". For continuity reasons or not, I still take it as symbolism that Zeke already thinks Tina is the coolest person ever and Tina just needs to really look around her to realize it. The subtext I tell ya!

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I know I'm a huntlow blog at heart, but, Zeke and Tina from bobs burgers have begun to rot my brain to the point where I wrote a fic for them faster than I ever have for literally any other pairing.

I'm actually kinda proud of this too, it was so much fun to work on!

@shortmania​ Thank you so much for answering my ask! (I don’t know why I even did the ask anonymously in the first place if I’m just going to reveal myself? I mean, it’s not like I asked anything necessarily awkward anyway.) I came to you for your opinions because I like how your choices for headcanons are mostly grounded within reality (at least of the show’s reality) or to satisfy the “Rule of Funny” trope. I was really in need of some help for this height headcanon thing because this definitely puts my own headcanon height chart to shame (which is what I was hoping for mind you).

While I mostly agree with your choices and reasoning for why you made your choices; however, I do have at least one or two changes in mind. I think I will make Rhonda the height of Arnold because I personally picture her to be slightly taller than Helga like she was as a child (plus I find it hard to believe that she would be the same size as Phoebe). Also, I may or may not make Phoebe smaller for petty, fan character reasons (a fan character of mine is 5′3″ at 15 but gets a 1.5″ growth spurt between the ages of 16-17). Although, I’m leaning towards not so my fc can have a petty moment of patting herself on the back for finally being a half an inch taller than Phoebe. Got to follow that rule of funny after all.

I do like the idea of short Harold given the size comparison between him and Torvald (which he is supposedly around the same age as Harold). I originally made Sid an inch shorter in my own chart. It sadistically delights me to see that proboscis monkey being in the low end of the height chart. Although, the sizes actually work in favor of my headcanon that Stinky, Sid, and Harold will take the places of Mr. Hyunh, Oskar, and Ernie at the boarding house when they are out of school. So Sid being taller than Harold actually works for me.

This is very helpful, thank you again for doing this. I’m also glad I could help by providing an extra resource for you. I don’t even remember how I found it in the first place? It was probably from a reblogged art resource post on here. Also, it wasn’t that long since I last made that ask so don’t worry about. I understand real life and mental health comes first. I’m in no hurry, take all the time you need.

Have a good day everybody!

Hi Shortmania! I send this ask for character design reasons. Do you have any headcanon heights for any of the HA! characters at their "The Patakis" age? I don't need all of them. Just Arnold and Helga will do nicely as a starting point. You can google mrinitialman if you want to look for something to have a better visual representation of what you have in mind Thank you for taking the time to read this regardless.

Well, first of all, thank you for the neat new resource, whoa. That is super helpful and I will definitely be using that in the future.

As for my headcanons, I’m a little nervous to say because I know they’re unpopular, lol. So little disclaimer there, but.

At age 15 (and likely the rest of their lives since growth spurts after 14 (female) and 16 (male) are rare):

FOR COMPARISON:US MALE AVERAGE: 5'9"US FEMALE AVERAGE: 5'4"

Arnold: 5'7"Helga: 5'6"Gerald: 5'10"Phoebe: 5'4"Harold: 5'5"Patty: 5'11"Stinky: 6'3"Sid: 5'6"Rhonda: 5'4"Curly: 5'12"Eugene: 5'3"

And those are the ones I’ve thought about and stand behind. I think most of these are pretty self-explanatory, they’re just based off their parents, but I’ll explain the ones I know most other fans are likely to be confused by. You can skip anything you’re uninterested in, Anon. ❤️I just like to be thorough. 

It is controversial to propose Arnold and Helga end up about the same height–most everybody prefer one of them to be significantly taller than the other–but it’s… just not my preference, for a few reasons. The Shortmans are a tall folk, Craig has confirmed that, but I like to think the males on Stella’s side of the family run a little smaller just because the idea of Arnold tall seems strange. He’s been consistently small throughout his childhood, and even at age eleven didn’t really grow more than maybe an inch or two since the fourth grade. Specifically, I think Arnold’s namesake, Stella’s dad, was the same. That is to say, I think he was a shorter than average dude, and I like to think Arnold strongly resembles him. That’s a baseless personal headcanon, and I acknowledge that. Arnold could be a late bloomer. I just like him a little smol.

On Helga’s end of things, my reasoning is just that… Well, there isn’t really any wrong way to calculate Helga’s height because we know basically nothing about her roots apart from Bob and Miriam. And Miriam appears to be average-ish, maybe above, Bob actually isn’t too too much taller (maybe 3-4 inches, and 2-4 inches shorter than Phil who I imagine is about 5'12"-6'0"), and Olga’s either average or below since she’s noticeably shorter than Miriam, so it’s just easiest for me to headcanon Helga as a couple inches over 5'4". It’s safe, it’s comfortable, it’s funny because it subverts expectations a bit. But I will say this: Miriam’s family is from South Dakota, Bob’s probably is as well, and South Dakota boasts some of the tallest folks in the US. Bob is also some form of Scandinavian – Hungarian, German, Ukrainian, Polish, who knows – and men in those countries tend to float around the benchmark of 5'10", and women an inch or two below the US average. So, Helga could easily be tall. Helga could also be pretty short. I do enjoy it when people portray her as this hulking powerhouse of a woman who could lift Arnold with just one arm, it’s a high quality option I would like to see more of, but my thing is that I’m always trying to a) be realistic, and b) leave room for funny scenarios. And Arnold being literally just one inch taller than Helga and Helga being endlessly salty about it is hilarious to me. 

Apart from all that, I hate to mention this, but: Helga isn’t consistently fed, and when she is fed, it’s usually with crap, so. When kids aren’t fed well or often, they don’t tend to grow quite as much as they might have otherwise. So, that is something to take into account. Moving on now.

About Gerald: thing is, there’s that stereotype of black men being absolute mountains because of basketball and I think that’s probably why most people see Gerald being like six feet, but… Gerald’s dad is a frugal numbers-obsessed business man. He’s nerdy. He’s kinda short. It makes a little bit of sense to me that Gerald might be tall-ish because for a nine-year-old boy, he is fairly big? But eh. I just try to split the difference, to honor both his genes and his onscreen rate of development, and I arrive at a little above average because the thought of Gerald being the sole Tol of his immediate family (taller than Jamie-O, especially) is funny to me, and I will always pick the option that is funny to me.

Aaaand both of Harold’s parents are tiny. I don’t really know why people always draw/write him tall–I guess it’s more attractive? he always refers to himself as big? he’s a part of the hulking bully/gentle giant archetype?–but people forget he’s 13 in-show and actually pretty small for his age. At least compared to, like, fifth and sixth graders. Wolfgang is at least twice his height, and I’m pretty sure Harold is older than him. This show is ridiculously confusing and inconsistent about age and child development, but, well. These are the only points of reference we have, so. Yep. 

I love Patty… That’s it. That’s my reasoning. Let her tower over us all as she rightfully deserves.

I hope this was helpful! You don’t have to agree with me, of course, but I hope I at least gave a fair baseline for you to form your own conclusions. Thanks for caring about my dumb opinion, lol, and best wishes on all your projects.