It kind of looks like fishnets is a fatal disease that Techno has contracted and Phil is gently explaining Techno's condition to Ranboo while Niki comforts him
I AM HERE TO DELIVER FISHNET C!TECHNO. THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU. also syndicate :)
Wilbur opens his chest like a fridge
Au where both Fundy and Wilbur are fox hybrids. And like foxes, they have storage in their mouth. So when they take things out of their inventory they just. Spit it out.
Wilbur: Phil.
*various choking noises, sword falls on the ground*
Wilbur: Kill me.
Philza: I'm not touching that.
Michael Underscore-Beloved becomes a rapper. After a semi-successful rap career he decides he wants to start a band with the other kids of the SMP. He's the lead singer and guitarist, but sometimes he plays the drums when one of the others want to take the spotlight.
Michelle and Shroud put together most of the costumes with input from Finley and Junior (no Shroud you can't wear see through shorts). Michelle was the first to sing on her own and has done so the most apart from Michael. She can play the saxophone, the cello, the drums and guitar. Fans often ship her and Michael together which they both find hilarious.
Shroud usually has a new boyfriend or girlfriend each week, but his most recent boyfriend has lasted about two months so far.
Finley and Shroud are the main dancers, but they also sing sometimes. Finley sings more than Shroud but most often they sing together as backing vocals. Finley can play the flute.
Yoghurt does the lighting and sound and also puts together the music videos with help from Foolish Jr, their manager. Yoghurt is really insecure about their voice but when they did sing in a music video everyone loved it so they've been trying to gather the courage to do it again and eventually do so in front of a live audience.
Junior has never been in a music video because he isn't a good singer or dancer, but he does know how money works which the others (except Michelle) do not. He does interviews and everyone thinks he's really sweet because they can see how much he cares about the rest.
Their first album consisted of mostly Michael as lead because there others were still a bit unsure but there are a couple of duets mostly of Michael and Michelle or Michelle and Finley. Michelle and Finley both did solo songs and Finley's was one of those mainstream catchy pop songs and Michelle's was a country rock. Shroud was always backing and everyone expected him to stay that way, until one concert, when all the others left Shroud alone on stage with the piano that had been snuck on at some point during the last song. The crowd was confused until he started playing on it at which point they all collectively lost their minds.
They usually write the songs together as a group, though there are exceptions, such as Shroud's Song which he wrote for his dad (Tommy cried).
Ofc all their parents are proud of them, but Tubbo and Ranboo are more used to it and give Michael his independence (but they do wish he'd visit more) and Puffy is much the same. Tommy cries everytime they leave home to go on tour and has all their merch, initially he'd tried to go with them but Shroud told him it would be cringe and Tommy Innit is never cringe. Fundy always helps with sound and lighting when Yoghurt asks for it. Tommy calls him cringe and Fundy tells him to shut up because he cries whenever Shroud goes to the cornerstore. Foolish always makes a point to check in with his kids and niece whenever they end up working in the same servers.
If you were to ask the question
The answer is always the character, except in some particular instances:
Wilbur
Schlatt
Jack Manifold
Technoblade
Now, I see some of you looking at that last one, and I've got to say: wait just a second, let me do the others first.
CC!Wilbur Soot is fucking crazy man. He would kill C!Wilbur with no hesitation and it wasn't even supposed to be a fight to the death. Sure C!Wilbur knows how to fight, sure he's a terrorist, but he's also weak as shit man. Fresh from the grave and about ten years older, he has so many problems with his body y'all. I bet he's got a limp. When he breathes it's wet. Sure both Wilbur's bones can snap like twigs, but CC has the advantage of being alive his whole life and wanting his C to suffer. C!Wilbur would hesitate and CC!Wilbur would not, and that makes all the difference.
CC!Schlatt has a gun. C!Schlatt stands no chance. Sorry bro.
Now. Here's the thing. This could actually go either way. C!Jack is easily intimidated, but so is CC!Jack. It all boils down to who can make the other back down first, the most likely outcome is a forfeit. As long as CC!Jack makes C!Jack believe he's a boxer he's won, however if any punches are thrown (though this is unlikely) C!Jack would best him.
CC!Techno would defeat Technoblade with the power of meta. We know for a fact that Technoblade is somewhat aware of the nature of his existence, though to what extent it is unclear. CC!Techno knows all of Technoblade weaknesses for he created them. All CC!Techno has to do is tell Technoblade he created him and without him he wouldn't even be a thought and if Technoblade strikes him down he shall cease to exist in all forms. If this doesn't work he can use his ultimate weapon: Floof.
Okay but who are the victims? Can you save them? Are there ones you can't and ones you can? Like you can't save Tommy or Tubbo, but you can save Ranboo.
Is the first victim George? And the second Sapnap? (Get rid of your attachments first!) Sapnap should play basketball.
Which ones put up a fight? Do any of the victims save themselves, like Purpled?
DSMP AU where everyone is a generic horror character AKA. that one crack AU i took too seriously
more HCs under the cut
-Technoblade is so fucking smart yet he has close to zero survival skills. He'd be probably killed off at the end of the show in the final standoff with the bad guy, so the best friend character can have a bittersweet ending
-Love-hate relationship with the fans, the writers did him dirty by giftin him little to no personality except being fucking stupid and showin no emotions cuz the writers mischaracterized a mental illness
-fans would probably ship him with skeppy or phil cuz theyre the only ones he talks to, leading to some famous twitter discourse in which someone gets doxxed and hashtag like "techskep wins" or "love loose" trends, making the writers to either get outed as extremely homophobic or to queerbait the fandom so hard its gonna go down in the history
-Wilbur is the onceler of the show. Tall mysterious guy with british accent. The actor playing him would probably get harrassed on the streets by fans too
-literally no connection to the killer, the writers just wanted a plot twist
-Skeppy is literally just comic relief
-Fans are so pissed at writers for not focusing on him and giving him a deeper meaning so theres bunch on headcanons and mischaracterizations from the fandom online
-Probably the only one to question why they cant just call the cops, but once they do, they just laugh at them, because thats realistic
-Philza is the Side Character that fans love for some reason, he has no backstory, he isn't devilishly handsome or extraordinary, yet there's more fanart of him than of main character
-Ah yes, the reigen arataka syndrome
-HE ISN'T A DILF HE ISN'T HE ISN'T
-Dream in this AU is every creepypasta from like 2000s combined. Every single one. you heard me
-You fucking bet that there would be catboy edits of him on tumblr in 2012, and he'd probably have those different sonas like sans or whatever, like based on the color of his hoodie or smth, that people would ship, leading eventually to the death of the fandom
-every single fan theory on who he is is structured better than college grade analysis papers, yet the writers themselves dont know it yet
-"this man ate my son"
everyone please read "tommyinnit's guide to being a (highly successful) wingman" by teacupi on a03
It is a very good fic and I just read it all in a week, it's very funny and so so worth it
They would share custody...
Beeduo Angst?!
This is a thousand years later and it'S based on that one poll were chat said Ranboo would be the one with Michael if they were to divorce :v
Anyways! Hope you like it!
me: I'm in the mood to write.
my brain: ....write your essay, right?
me:....
my brain: You're going to write your essay, RIGHT?
Advanced interrogation techniques
so this is how the lore stream went right
Tubbo is an outlier and should not be counted
5up: “i love the culture & food in britain, it’s all so rich & good!!!”
tubbo: *brings out THIS bad boy*
Techno: *is being overwhelmed by the voices*
Phil: *shoves a potato in his mouth*
part of me wants c!kristen to be a super cool goddess lady who knows everything and whatever but the rest of me RLLY wants c!kristen to be an awkward sort of funny lady who is Very powerful but equally sweet. she is not very aware of how Living things work but she tries
Op they aren't mutually exclusive
Wilbur when Quackity is in the room: I am chaos I blew up an entire country I am intimidating I can stop whole armies with a word I am a president I am unpredictable. I am that bitch.
Wilbur as soon as Quackity leaves: Ohmygod Ranboo he knows my name!
I love how in fanwork we keep portraying c!wilbur as this smug asshole that can get under c!quackity's skin with just a few words as if he isn't acting like a teenage girl with a crush in a disney channel original movie
He looked up at them with a horrified gasp
"He's dying to see us."
"Well yeah, we know that. Otherwise he wouldn't be astral projecting to us or whatever it is."
He shook his head, "no- I mean- he's literally- he's dying."
this implies the little cat things like the smell of rotting flesh and i dont appreciate it
jungle cat
variety
Since the recent events following the second L’Manburg Festival and subsequent war, I’ve seen many, many hot takes surrounding the nature of Tommyinnit’s character on the SMP. Some of which annoyed me to the point where I felt compelled to sit down and actually write this. I’m going to only be highlighting the most common complaints or questions I’ve seen, one by one, in hopes of providing a better understanding of Tommy’s character for anyone interested. (I also briefly discuss Techno and Tubbo’s characters as well.)
If you’ve said similar things to what I’m going to be discussing below, please know that it’s perfectly understandable how you’d come to these conclusions. Some of these aspects of Tommy’s character are not always obvious; especially if being watched from another streamer’s POV. This may become quite lengthy, so bear with me for now.
Tommy is actually one of the most motivationally consistent characters on the entire Dream SMP. Even Techno, someone completely confident in their ideals, does more motivational flipping than Tommy. From the very start of the story, Tommy has always cared for three things; L’Manburg, Tubbo, and his music discs. However, him caring for something is not itself a motivation.
Surprisingly enough, his motivation isn’t even just, ‘Get my discs back,’ like many assume it is. Tommy’s one true motivation, since the end of the Independence War, has always been, ‘Keep things the way they are now.’
Tommy’s one fatal flaw is that he is resistant to change and refuses to let go of the past. This is seen through all of his actions and words; in all conflicts involving him. This flaw is the drive to all of Tommy’s mistakes. Burning down George’s house, an action which resulted in him getting exiled, was done out of a desire to pull pranks the way he used to before the first war. His friendship with Ranboo started because Tommy said he reminded him of Tubbo, back before he was President.
Tommy still talks highly of Wilbur because he chooses to remember him as the wise, kind mentor who cared for him. This motive is the reason he defends L’Manburg so fiercely; it’s his memory of a better past. This is why he holds grudges more often than any other character; especially refusing to forgive Techno after he killed Tubbo during the Manburg Massacre.
It’s why Tommy falls under extreme distress whenever Tubbo or Quackity tell him that something will never be the same again. This motivation is entirely formed from an underlying desire for peace and comfort, something Tommy has been denied since being forced into a life wrought with war and death. To accept change, to Tommy, is painful and terrifying. But he will only ever truly be happy when he finally learns to let go.
Tommy’s discs are much more than just any ordinary pair of music discs. They were never important for their material worth, but for what Tommy was willing to sacrifice in order to keep them. Tommy is entirely what gives the discs their value.
Tommy also commonly operates under the Sunk-Cost Fallacy, wherein he’s invested too much of himself into something to just abandon it, even if it’s causing him problems. This mentality is a huge piece of what keeps him tied to both L’Manburg and to his discs. He’s sacrificed too much at this point to simply let them go. If he admits the discs are worthless, then he’s admitting that he wasted all this time and effort, just to keep them.
The discs also act as a constant source of hope for Tommy because they are directly tied with his motivations as a character. They’re something he’s had since the very beginning. They’re something he used to listen to with Tubbo on their shared bench.
To Tommy, they symbolize a life before war, filled with comfort and peace. They are a love letter to his country and his late mentor Wilbur. They are a physical representation of Tubbo’s companionship. They are the only thing, besides L’Manburg and his best friend, that gives him the hope that he can one day return things to the way they used to be.
This ideal, paired with Tommy’s refusal to let go, has left him ruthlessly pursuing the things he’s lost. Not his music discs, but his peace and comfort, his friendship, his country, his mentor Wilbur, and his life before war.
In his desperation to hold onto his prized possession, it has only hurt and pushed away the people that love him. If Tommy continues to ignore this reality, while still refusing to resolve his major flaw entwined with it, he will lose all that the discs had once stood for. He will lose his country, then his friend Tubbo, and then he will lose himself.
Characters do not have to constantly learn from their actions to be well-written. Tommy is one of the best examples of this. The fact that his growth is infrequent is the entire point of his character; it’s completely stemmed from his fatal flaw.
By addressing himself, he would be accepting change, something that terrifies him; something he stubbornly resists until he is absolutely forced to confront it. Contrary to popular belief, Tommy knows when he makes mistakes, but he pretends to be ignorant as to avoid facing reality. He digs his head in the sand despite knowing better, puppeteering the person he used to be during happier times, now gone.
In spite of his infrequent growth, the idea that Tommy still hasn’t learned anything isn’t quite correct either. Tommy, as of the last three plot streams, has shown incredible character development. By giving up his discs again, he had finally demonstrated that Tubbo is more important to him than his possessions. Speaking as a makeshift leader, he put aside his issues with others to rally them together against a common threat, something which Tommy had never been able to do before. He owned up to all of his mistakes openly, apologizing to everyone he’s ever hurt in one place.
He apologized to Tubbo after they were reunited and came to terms with the fact that Tubbo was forced to exile him without choice, finally forgiving him. He was kind to Sapnap and learned how to be his friend after months of bitter rivalry. And these are only a few examples. This isn’t to say Tommy has overcome/fixed everything because he clearly hasn’t. There are still major things Tommy needs to work through that remain unaddressed, the biggest being his complicated relationship with Technoblade.
Tommy, since the start of the L’Manburg War for Independence, has never set out to be a hero. Not once. He may fall into the role of the protagonist, but his identity as a hero was pushed onto him by others. Giving up the discs was his only option during the Independence War.
So when Wilbur called him a hero for it, Tommy said he didn’t feel like he was. During the November 16th War, Tommy again said he didn’t feel like a hero because he had lost what he thought was everything at the time. During exile, Tommy certainly knew he was no hero. And upon reuniting with Tubbo, he admitted to feeling like the farthest thing from it. That he’d hurt everyone and all he wanted to do now was fix it.
The day before Doomsday, Tommy only took a leadership position because no one else was willing to, filling the role for Tubbo, who was crumbling under pressure. He had no choice but to try to bring everyone together, or fight alone. Most viewers never saw this during Doomsday, but before the battle, almost everyone who had vowed to fight alongside L’Manburg had abandoned them the very next day. They were convinced it was going to be destroyed either way, no matter what they did, so they chose not to see it through to the end; ultimately leaving Tommy and those who remained to fight a losing battle, alone.
After about a third of the way through the battle, it became clear to everyone that they could do nothing to win. One by one, everyone stopped fighting and stood by to watch their country go up in smoke. Tommy was the only person on the battlefield who refused to stand down and give up. And so he took over the role as leader again, trying his best to keep them alive, to keep Tubbo hopeful; to keep fighting, no matter what.
However, what most people don’t realize, is that this isn’t Tommy trying to be a hero or force himself into the spotlight. This is Tommy trying to convince himself to keep going. Because whenever things start to look hopeless, Tommy simply chooses to ignore them. He puts on a happy face and soldiers through it because that’s all he knows how to do. Tommy, at his core, is someone who wants peace through stagnation. He doesn’t want to fight, although causing the occasional friendly conflict is how he finds fun. He doesn’t set out to purposely hurt others.
Tommy may come across as self-centered, but this is because he is an extremely extroverted character. He finds energy and joy in the attention of others, both good and bad. It’s why he’s always seeking the approval of others and, oftentimes, will destructively insert himself into another person’s life in order to find it.
Out of every character in the story, Tommy is the most drawn to praise and positive reinforcement. He is constantly seeking out mentors and friends because Tommy needs someone else to help him feel confident in his own identity and abilities. It’s why Wilbur was such a positive influence on him. His boisterous confidence has always been a front because if anyone were to actually hurt him, he knows it will make his self-esteem crumble instantly.
This is part of why Dream’s manipulation was so effective against him. By isolating him, he’s left without energy and looking to another person’s guidance. Tommy outwardly may seem independent and rude, but just under the skin, he’s unconfident and lost when he’s by himself. Tommy will only grow from this flaw when he finds his own identity and inner confidence; when he finally learns to be okay with being alone.
Before the screaming match between the two friends during the second L’Manburg Festival, Tommy had been in exile, manipulated by Dream for long enough to lose his will to carry on. It is because of him that Tommy’s reality becomes distorted, long after fleeing from his abuser. This mangling of ideals leads Tommy to subconsciously believe that L’Manburg and Tubbo are unsalvageable.
Therefore, the only thing he has hopes of retrieving are his discs, which are easier to manage than the latter two things. And so Tommy does reprehensible things at the behest of Techno in a vain hope of getting them back, going so far as to kidnap and torture for them. This ultimately culminates in a confrontation between the ex-friends, quickly turning violent. It is in this violence that we see Tommy has sunk to his absolute lowest point in his journey.
Swinging his axe, he nearly kills his friend as he delivers a string of words that cause the room to silence instantly. He says the discs were always worth more than his friend. Within the quiet of the room, Tommy is forced to reflect on everything he’s done. How he kidnapped and tortured Connor. How he accidentally drowned Fundy. How he traumatized Ranboo.
And now he’s hurt Tubbo, the one person he has always sought to protect; someone he vowed to never hurt. This realization causes Tommy to break. He’s so ashamed of himself that he can’t look at anyone. Tommy knows now that he is worse than anyone he’s ever hated.
With pain in his voice, he tries and fails to apologize to Tubbo in the moment. The only way he knows to redeem himself now is to prove to Tubbo, after everything, that he can still put the discs aside. And so he does.
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May have just created a dnd god??? then forgot what they were the god of??? I think I wrote it down??
liking or hating c!dream is fine. liking or hating c!tommy is fine. having an emotional attachment to either of them is fine. having biased opinions or an emotional view of the story based on such attachment is fine.
both of them are characters that can be heavily related to or perceived as sympathetic. both of them are characters that are heavily flawed and have hurt people and can be strongly disliked.
no buts. this shouldn't have to be a hot take in this fandom.
this is a fictional storyline based on moral complexity and multiple perspectives. it is meant to make us have different opinions. it is supposed to make us feel things, even if they are often conflicting.
the "fiction affects real life" rule only applies if it affects the way we treat or think of others, and and as far as i can see, it's the people who think they have the moral high ground by liking the "good" characters who repeatedly hurt and harass those who do not.
those are the only people who need to step away in this situation, not the ones who have opinions the majority doesn't share.
none of this should be a hot take in this fandom.
i myself am still a kid but damn, he dream smp community sometimes feels like i'm back in kindergarten.
a lot of straight mcyt ccs are really good at how they interact with and incorporate their lgbt fanbases but personally nothing will ever top how one time in high school a lesbian told techno he was “actually pretty funny” and now the mutual appreciation between him and his lesbian fans is like a notable part of his brand
This Post tells me that we all want Tommy to adopt every possible mob that shouldn't be adopted and, you know what? Fine!
Here's Tommy getting every single mob he really shouldn't:
It started off easy. Tommy was a big man and he really liked animals, as every big man should. What he didn't like was how unfairly certain types of dogs and horses were treated...
So one day, when a small eight-legged pony approached him just to amicably stare up at him he knew that he wouldn't be able to part from it. Therefore Shroud was now the second official member of the Innit household! Foolish seemed to like him a lot as well, so Tommy didn't really think anything of it.
On another day he found himself being tackled by Baba, the snow horse that he saw near Technoblade's house. Tubbo let out a shriek when seeing this, but Tommy knew that she was just trying to play, so he scratched her ear and brought her home. Clearly, if she ran away it meant she wanted a new owner, so who was he to refuse? He added a little snow enclosure in the basement and made sure to keep Baba cool. Tubbo didn't really approve, but what does Tubbo know anyway?
Then it was the turn of Clementine, a very nice lanky dog that appeared one day in his home and never left. Foolish said that he should have killed her and called her a pest, but Tommy thinks that Foolish is just an asshole. It's not Clem's fault that she's not comfortable with people staring at her! They should learn to respect her boundaries already! So he built another room for her, with a taller roof this time. His house was sure becoming quite popular, huh? Not that it wasn't expected with him being the biggest of men!
And, well, so far no one was too weirded out by it. Sure, they would give Tommy some weird looks, but nothing too bad. In comes the fiery dog. This time Tubbo was very adamant about how: "That's not a dog bossman, that's a fucking blaze!" but since Tommy didn't understand what that meant he elected to ignore it. Couldn't be that important anyway. And Fiery dog was nice! He never shot fireballs at him, only ever using them to turn on the furnaces when asked. He was a nice dog and Tommy really couldn't understand what everyone had against him!
It got worse when he brought back a small slimey horse and a small jumpy horse. Ranboo called them "Slime and Magma Cube" so Tommy assumed the hybrid could speak with them and that those were their names. This time it was Wilbur's turn to come to him in concern. He even apologized for leaving Tommy alone and other shit, apparently assuming that Tommy was bringing all his dogs and horses home as a substitute. He wasn't. They were just nice and people around him misjudged them, so he wanted them to have a family. Not because he could relate to the feeling, just because he was nice like that!
Then it came the turn for the screamy dog. That one was admittedly quite big. So much so that Tommy had to make the biggest nether portal he could manage to bring her home, but it was worth it! He didn't like the name "Ghast" that everyone suggested, so he went for Genevive. He made the biggest glass dome he could for her and Tubbo even helped. Apparently, it was because "You're gonna get yourself killed if I'm not here with all these hostile mobs around" whatever that meant.
Along the way, he also got one of the pillager's horses, who he called Betty, and one of the Nether's ugly horses (who kinda looked like Techno if Techno was a horse, so he called it Better Techno). At that point, people were mostly resigned though. Somehow none of the mobs were aggressive towards Tommy. And, sure, the boy's house was becoming more and more of an eyesore with every expansion, but no one tried to do anything about it because none of the mobs were quite as friendly towards them. That said they were sure that there was nothing Tommy could do at this point to surprise them...
Well, Tommy found a weird dark portal surrounded by blocks he'd never seen. And he jumped in before DreamXD could do anything about it. -why is he like this?
On the other side he found the biggest dog he'd ever seen! It had huge ass wings, cool claws and it breathed out a purple fire that covered the whole ground. Tommy was amazed at her beauty so he told her as much when she lowered down towards him.
"Aren't you the prettiest dog ever? Look at you! You're amazing!" she seemed to like that. So much so that she snuggled up to him for quite a few minutes before lifting him with her mouth and going towards a portal in the center of the pillar. Tommy was sad to leave her behind, so he was ecstatic when she followed him on the other side!
*Tommyinnit made the achievement [FREE THE END]*
*Tommyinnit made the achievement [NEW END]*
Okay, perhaps everyone else wasn't quite as welcoming toward Big Dog as he'd hoped, but Tommy was sure they would warm up to her! And soon they would stop saying stuff like "Tommy that's the Ender Dragon! It's the one thing that could kill us all! Please bring it back where you found it!" and start saying "Wow Tommy, you're the biggest of men and that's the coolest dog I've ever seen" as they should.
I’ve been seeing a lot of talk recently about how “c!Techno’s comparison to c!Tommy and Theseus doesn’t make any sense” and “he should’ve compared him to [insert other Greek myth here] during that speech instead!”
And while I see where everyone is coming from, I don’t agree with wanting him to change his comparison and here’s why:
c!Techno’s comparison of c!Tommy and Theseus wasn’t as spot on as he thought it was because c!Techno had the WRONG READ on c!Tommy.
Of course his Theseus comparison was wrong because he was talking about c!Tommy through his own twisted lens. He was so certain that c!Tommy wanted to be “hero” even though c!Tommy never wanted that title.
Because of this I personally wouldn’t want anything changed about the Theseus speech because c!Techno getting the wrong idea of c!Tommy’s motivations was entirely the reason why it happened and why he targeted c!Tommy specifically. It wouldn’t make sense if he compared c!Tommy to something that more accurate fit him during that speech because the whole point is that he has a warped view of who c!Tommy is.
/rp im still never gonna be over the fact that, after tommy’s prison break-in stream, the general fandom response was “how could sam stop caring about tommy like that!?” when, if you’ve been keeping up with sam’s arc over the past few months, that stream did nothing but show how much he adores tommy
when ponk stole sam’s old keycards and even entertained the idea of breaking into prison, sam took his life, and his arm. sam gave him warnings, yes, but when ponk went through with it anyways sam showed him no mercy
compare this to tommy, who actually broke in. who got all the way to the main cell before being caught. who sam thinks is actively trying to break dream out. what does sam do to him in response? absolutely nothing. you can’t even say tommy got off with a slap on the wrist, because sam didn’t even do that much! he didn’t hit tommy a single time
and that, my friends, is one of the reasons why sam was so excruciatingly angry during this scene. he was angry at himself for not living up to his own expectations as The Warden. for not being strong enough. he was angry at tommy for even putting him in that position in the first place, and revealing his weaknesses. he repeats it over and over: “you should be dead right now. i should have killed you.” but he loves tommy too much to let him off with anything but a warning
when sam says “you should be dead” he means “the protocol states i should have killed you, but i can’t (i don’t want to) and that infuriates me”. when sam says “this is why i let you die- what am i supposed to do now?” he means “this is why i didn’t let you out of the cell. i was afraid dream would take advantage of the situation and something worse would happen”
sam says “go away. i don’t ever want to see you again”. he means “i don’t want you to die”
What if Phil didn't adopt any of his kids and it was all Wilbur
obsessed with the idea that c!wilbur just found tommy one day & was like ‘ :] cool, free baby brother ‘
I want a Distant Shore X This Day Aria mix
Idk I just think they're neat songs
i like a good "time travel fix-it where everything is carefully planned out by the time traveler(s) and ultimately goes right" fic as much as the next person but I am such a slut for "if there was a plan, we have neglected to follow it." this includes:
the plan was just "fix a problem" which, turns out, is not a real plan
i didn't know about or forgot to account for something and now everything has gone to shit
i severely overestimated my emotional capacity to deal with this, and now things are on fire (literally and/or figuratively)
oh man i did NOT expect this other character/group of characters to have a completely batshit reaction to my changes and.... wow. okay. so the plan is ruined
i encountered a hiccup in the plan and proceeded to make a panicked, very bad decision and now the plan is in the toilet
i wasn't going to do anything about this problem because it's going to resolve itself, but you know what, FUCK IT, i can't just not do anything
okay maybe i'm just bad at planning?
OK so
Wilbur/Revivebur said he was alone for 9 years or whatever, which means there was no Schlatt, no MD, and no Tommy. But we saw Tommy talking to ask three of them when he died, so how can this be true? Well: personal afterlives.
If each afterlife is personal then they have to be constructed somehow, right? So what if they're made using expectations, hopes and fears. Personal afterlives mean all of the afterlife options can be true:
Revivebur was alone because he hates everyone and himself so he wants to be alone and thinks he deserves it. At first a relief it quickly became torture, but it had been established in his mind already that the afterlife is unchanging. His own personal hell, designed by himself, though subconsciously.
Tommy, having been told the afterlife is a big void by Ghostbur (who experienced Revivebur's afterlife until he split off as a ghost), gets exactly what he expects a big void holding all the dead people he knows. All of them act as he expects them to, Schlatt is drunk/asleep, MD is being a creature of chaos coming and going as he always does, and Wilbur is even more unstable than he was in Pogtopia (which gives me hope for a possible redemption arc, not much though as Tommy knows Wilbur better than anyone, and Revivebur probably has a "dream my beloved" locket)
Everyone knows Ghostbur's afterlife is happy and peaceful, just because Ghostbur and Revivebur rode the same train doesn't mean he got off on the same station. Ghostbur is in a flower field and all his friends are there and he's living his best death. Sometimes some friends aren't there and sometimes they are all different ages. Like Fundy might be a baby one day and an adult the next, Tommy is a toddler and then he's sixteen and then he's ten.
but they are always happy
Sometimes the real Mumza pops into her son's afterlife to check on him. Because she's death and she can enter any afterlife, but only if the person wants her there, which Revivebur Did Not (going off the assumption that Ghostbur + Revivebur = Wilbur/Alivebur).
Why doesn't she visit Tommy? Well, why would she? She doesn't know him, he doesn't know her. The only thing they have in common is that they view Wilbur as family.
Kinda implies Mumza was the train but we're not going to think about that too hard
Mermaid rehabilitation centre
I take you on a tour of my house but every room looks like this
when i see a lot of discussions who try to compare characters, the thing is, they forget about the very nature of the server, in that it is NOT our world despite how much it can feel like it, and thus the nature of power is much more primeval.
on a basic level, power is power. nothing else.
having the best armor doesn’t make you unkillable. Tommy had the first piece of netherite armor on the entire server. and it was stolen and used against him. Sam insists he’s one of, if not the, most powerful person the server - he still lost to a PVP with Dream. Techno infamously was able to kill Quackity with a pickaxe, some potions, and iron armor despite the latter being in full enchanted netherite.
now, in our world, resources = power. several people on the server take great pride in their resources (being the “richest”) but…once you have God Armor+Weapons and a solid base, you’re basically on the same playing field as everyone else, it then comes down to skill. because most people only have 3 lives, it’s not likely you NEED four stacks of Gapples and Diamonds. sure, it helps! in the Disc Finale, Dream talks a lot about how he has more than he’ll ever need and that Tommy and Tubbo can never feasibly beat him, but we’ve all seen an episode of Manhunt. Dream doesn’t need godtier items to be powerful. and it’s hard to say items make you powerful when out of canon, CC!Dream has a valid system to prevent people getting so far ahead no one can ever catch up (the End being closed and iron/villager/piglin farms being banned)
and all of this means the interactions of “powerful” people - Techno and Dream in particular - need to be taken with the concept in mind that in the end, all the “power” (resources, money, friends, allies) doesn’t matter if another person is able to kill you anyways. (other characters like Punz should be on that list as well but OOC we know he prefers to be a supporting character, Sapnap is involved but not as much as those two, etc.)
and what it also means is that objectively weaker characters will view the world fundamentally different from them because they do not have Power nor do they have misconceptions about who actually holds it. which brings us to this:
“One arrow can be easily broken. But when five arrows are be bound together, they become strong.”
people like Techno will not understand why a group needs to band together and consolidate power in an organized government, and it’s because his version of anarchy benefits him, and “governments” pose a threat to him (whether he wants to recognize or admit it is another story). he’s Powerful! nobody can, on their own, overpower him. the Disc Finale is the ultimate example of this - Dream was able to be taken down by the entire server joining together and saying “we’ve had enough” and Dream, despite all his Power, couldn’t outmatch them all. and though they weren’t part of a government, that’s ONLY because their governments had been forcibly dissolved and their country lands destroyed beyond repair.
L’manburg was originally about a group of people coming together to keep themselves safe from people with Power. The Disc Finale proves that was the way to go! Dream was considered unbeatable, even 2 vs 1, and we know from Manhunts not even 4 v 1 can take him down easily. but a dozen people? there’s no escaping that. Techno can say he did it at the Community House, but they weren’t actively hunting him - there are several “good enough” fighters that if they teamed against him, he would die. Sapnap alone got him down to 2.5 hearts on Doomsday. him + someone else? Techno would have been dead. that’s all it takes.
Dream understands this and did from very early on. he fully and absolutely understands why they formed a government. it’s exactly why he worked so hard to destroy it, and why he encouraged paranoia and sowed the seeds of distrust every chance he got, because it doesn’t need to be a “government” it’s any faction, any group that could get big enough to pose a threat, and if he can turn them on each other, he stays in control. he stays Powerful.
when Dream threatens people, when Techno comes into someone’s home and demands answers to his questions, when Sapnap tries to bust the drug ring, when Punz says stay away from the Egg, these are people who have Power. their actions, their threats, their intentions carry with them the Power to Kill if they don’t get their way. and that HAS to be considered when we look at how interactions play out and why other characters feel the way that they do.