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What is included is authors noticing someone who has left kudos on a fanfic, but that doesn't comment until five chapters later. THANK YOU TO THAT PERSON FOR LETTING ME KNOW YOU ARE STILL READING!!!
AO3 Comments are SO SO SOOOOOOO important because you can only leave Kudos ONCE. You add to the hit count ONCE (every 24 hours).
So whenever someone updates their fic, the ONLY way an author knows who their regular readers are is if they comment on each chapter. And we WANT to know who's still reading.
Believe it or not, some of us think about the name that pops up constantly in the comments and go "omg I can't wait to see what they think of THIS SPECIFIC SCENE cuz I KNOW they'll say something about it!!!"
Please, feel free to write any WatcherDad Aus for Hollow Knight.
reblog if you’re okay with people writing fanfics of your fanfics and/or fanfics inspired by your fanfics
It's neat to think that the reason the dreamers became such is because they were loyal to the people they had ward over first and foremost
Herrah as deepnest's queen is loyal to her people, integrating the metal crests of the devours and the weavers in the den
Monotone, who set up her archive as neutral ground is loyal to those that she taught
Lurien, while loyal to the king, is suggested by the decoration in his main chamber to be loyal to hallownest and its people first
They all care about the people under them before they care for anything else
For all their differences, it's really telling that all three Dreamers became Seals because of the exact same reason.
I'll love to see the fandom explore this aspect of the Dreamers. Think of all the fluff and angst one can create in the fandom while drawing on canon!
For the dead apprentices and kits, I always like the tradition that came with the -spirit suffix.
For context, the -spirit suffix has only been used once for Brightspirit of Skyclan...a.k.a. one sweet little Emmy Grace Cherry.
Emmy was a real-life Warrior's fan who sadly passed away with her family when a tornado struck their house. Rather than forget about their little fan, the Erin Hunters dedicated a whole set of charaters for her and her family. Her warrior suffix is the only I know that has a canon meaning that goes beyond a virtue.
-Spirit : Meaning: This cat’s memory is forever alive in our hearts.
If the leaders decided to name the dead apprentices with a -spirit suffix, I think that would be a beautiful way to keep Emmy's memory alive while honoring the fallen should-have-been warriors.
anyway what do yall think ravenpaw or swiftpaw (or any other dead kits/apprentices) should've had for a warrior name
At last! We have analyzed all the Dreamers' houses!
One last thing about the design of the Dreamer's houses and how they reflect each Dreamer's character. Throughout this analysis, we have been discussing what we can tell about the Dreamer's character from what we see, but we have yet to discuss about what we don't see.
With Herrah, we see the entirety of her den while we are barred from most of the Village. As such, we can guess more about Herrah's character than her people. Though I must admit that there is a bunch we can’t see due to being part dragon and part plant, but not part spider. Which means we can’t climb to the ceiling. But we DO see most of her house compared to most of the Dreamers. How this translates to the essay is all that we don’t see of Herrah is because we don’t have access to Weaver culture.
But alas, I still must guess how much we don’t know we don’t have access to in Herrah’s den. We must be missing more than Hornet's baby clothes!
With Monomon, we can guess that there is more to the Achieves, such as the classrooms, but that is a mere guess so we cannot comment on Monomon's character in that regard. But with Lurien…
We are canonically barred from seeing the entire Spire.
The green arrow is pointing to another hallway which we cannot enter in game. We know that this is another hallway as the wallpaper design is blurred out due to distance, unlike the wallpaper right next to Little Knight.
For reference, this screenshot was taken right after you successfully got past the part which requires Monarch Wings and takes you up into Lurien's Spire. AKA. Right at the bottom of the Spire. Which means THERE ARE ENTIRE SECTIONS OF THE WATCHER'S SPIRE RIGHT UP TO THE BALLROOM WHICH WE DON'T SEE! Check this map here!
Yellow marks the Door on the second level. Blue is the entire area that we are barred from seeing.
This is not the only section we are barred from seeing.
The Red is the entire section of the Spire which we don't see. Remember, we only go up the elevator to Lurien which is reflected in the map.
Now, do you remember these hallway pictures I showed you? The ones where Team Cherry showed 3-D in a 2-D world?
In order to achieve this effect, that window must be some ways away from the main hallway where we are standing. Far enough to create enough distance for a hallway by the window. Meaning there is a WHOLE ANOTHER HALLWAY leading who knows where!
There is another possible section of the Spire that we are unable to access.
These appear to be supporting the Watcher's Spire. Now, they could either be pillars and thus inaccessible to anyone, not just the player. Or, they are other towers supporting the main tower to the Spire, which means that not only is there entire section worth the height of the main Spire which we can't see, but whole towers as well!
Again, this is speculation. If anything, these towers outside Lurien's Spire are most likely supports for his own Spire as something needs to support the weight of the tallest spire in the City.
And we haven’t even touched the rooms belonging to the servants!
Remember this?
From: Hollow Knight: How To Defeat The Watcher Knights
This hiddie hole belongs to the rope that holds the chandelier which we can drop on one of the Watcher Knights, dropping the 6 bosses to 5 bosses.
How many hidden corners and passages are in the Watcher’s Spire? How many are we unaware of? Does every chandelier have a little hiddie hole like this one? Did Lurien ever use one of these servant passages and hiddie holes himself?
Now what about the Watcher Knights themselves?
You cannot tell me that these guys lived in Lurien’s ballroom. Where were their barracks? Where did they keep their weapons and gear? Where did they train? Surely Lurien wouldn’t outsource his Watcher Knights’ gear and training from his Spire, opening himself to possible assassination attempts? This bug had 15 Watcher Knights. I think he was concerned about getting attacked. So where do these Watchers sleep, train, and relax? We have half an entire Spire unseen.
Another question regarding Lurien’s servants. Remember how Lurien has a butler? Depending on how much Team Cherry wants to draw on medieval history, Lurien’s butler could have a different responsibility than modern day butlers. Modern butlers handle everything in the house: managing the daily operations of a household, keeping inventory of household supplies, maintain the cleanliness of the estate, etc.
Note how I said modern butlers. In medieval times, all those duties belonged to the head steward. The butler had a different job. He was the most trusted servant and confident of the head of house. He had to be in order to be trusted with the keys to the wine cellar! Or as it was called, the buttery. If Lurien’s butler had this job, then where is Lurien’s wine cellar? Where are the kitchens?
Of course, this doesn’t impact Lurien’s character too much as we don’t imagine him cooking. And we need to beeline towards Lurien to break the seals and open the Black Egg Temple, so we can’t take a detour towards the kitchens.
Doesn’t change the fact I would love to see Team Cherry or the fans develop the Dreamers’ houses more, especially Lurien’s Spire.
All the locations mentioned above beg a serious question: how much of Lurien's character do we not know simply because we cannot see his entire house? If everything that we do see speaks of a fortune worth of information, how much more is hiding from us?
Now take this to Herrah and Monomon. How much of them do we not know? What about their interactions with each other? Team Cherry had originally planned to give us individual boss fight rooms for each Dreamer. How much of Herrah, Monomon, and Lurien's characters will we never know because we never saw those rooms?
With that, I shall end this essay and leave you to your thoughts! It has been a long journey and I hope you dear reader learned something new. Please reblog any of your thoughts or ideas inspired by this essay!
If you wish to read more of the Essay, click one of these links below.
Part 1.0: Herrah's Den : Here
Part 2.0: Monomon's Archives: Here
Part 3.0: Lurien's Spire: Here
Part 3.25: Lurien's Spire: Windows and Colors: Here
Part 3.5: Even More of Lurien's Spire. Here
Part 3.7: What is WRONG with Lurien's Spire?: Here
Part 3.8: Even, even More of Lurien's Spire: Secret Room: Click here
Part 3.9 Watcher Knight Boss Room! Here
Link to essay on Ao3: Here
Now, Lurien's patriotic nature is quite famous in the community. Let us discuss a room that is not talked often about: Lurien's ballroom.
Also known as, the Boss room for the Watcher Knights. People scarcely remember that this boss room was a ballroom once just as often as they remember that Lurien canonically had 15 Watcher Knights, not just 6.
Could you imagine attending a ball here? The wide space surrounded by huge windows that allow you to see the whole City of Tears? Massive chandeliers that allow you to dance the night away till dawn? The drapes that offer a chance to prank a fellow guest…or sneak a kiss. If you want a closer look at the chandeliers, here is the best shot I got.
Goodness! Lurien could have taught Hornet or Hollow how to dance here!
What does this ballroom tell us about Lurien's character?
For one, it hints that the Watcher duties included some social aspect. One does not need a ballroom unless the person has a formal event. (Unless you need to transform the room into an emergency kitchen and shelter. Though usually, I've seen it the other way around where someone transforms a commons to a dancefloor.)
While we do not know who would attend these social events hosted by the Watcher's Spire, all these events must have been fantastic by the sheer view alone. The host of the social events has a very good chance of being the Watcher himself, as he is the Keeper of the Spire. Though the possibility remains that someone could have rented his Spire or Lurien could have lent his ballroom to any committee or guild in need of it. We do not have any evidence of this, however, so this is just speculation.
What is certain is that Lurien had a ballroom and it had to been used at some point. The Watcher, hosting a grand formal event, is not exactly an image that appears often in the fandom. Usually, Lurien is portrayed as an introvert who retreats from society rather than invites society into his home.
Yet there appears to be a place for Lurien to remain an introvert while hosting these grand balls. Behold the chart below.
Red arrow points to the ballroom (plus the above area where you get your reward of geo) while the green arrow points to the room with the three little watchers. Blue arrow points to Lurien's office.
Lurien has created a buffer zone between him, his work, and the ballroom. When Lurien is hosting a party and feeling overwhelmed by all the company, he can duck out into either the green arrow zone or use the zone to sneak into his office. Whereas when Lurien is too tired from his work, he can slip down the elevator to the green arrow zone or the ballroom for a dance. Again, if work came up at the ball, Lurien can pull the person aside into the green arrow zone and into his office if need be. Then, as soon as work was completed, Lurien can return to the ballroom after taking a breather in the green arrow zone.
Lurien knows himself and the duties required of him, whether it be his guardsman duties or his social duties, and so created a space for him to meet both duties while giving himself a breather room, literally.
Speaking of a breather, let us turn from the ballroom to the room which Lurien made to allow anyone to rest, the bench room.
This is personally my favorite bench in game, though the one in the Queen's Gardens is a close second. The soft sound of rain while surrounded by the glow of the lamps, all while Marissa's song echoes in the background. The whole room is beautiful, allowing you to take a breath not just from the brutality and decay outside, but for awe that Team Cherry creates in their game.
Unlike the other Dreamers, Lurien does not have a unique bench. The bench within his Spire is standard across the kingdom. While it does save Team Cherry time, I believe the standard bench speaks to Lurien's character as well. The standard Hallownestian bench is for anyone to sit, and so anyone and everyone is welcomed to rest at Lurien's Spire. Note the placement of the bench, directly underneath the bridge connecting the Watcher's Spire to the Commoner/Worker side of the City. Anyone from that side would immediately have a place to rest when they arrived or about to depart. As for the nobles, the room is so beautiful and costly adorned that they would have no reason to complain. Once again, the bench area’s predominantly colored purple, showing how anyone could rest there in beauty.
Sidenote: I find it interesting that the glass lamps Lurien used for this room were first and only seen on the Commoner/Worker side of the City. The nobles only have round spheres or crest-like ovoid.
If you wish to read more of the Essay, click one of these links below.
Part 1.0: Herrah's Den : Here
Part 2.0: Monomon's Archives: Here
Part 3.0: Lurien's Spire: Here
Part 3.25: Lurien's Spire: Windows and Colors: Here
Part 3.5: Even More of Lurien's Spire. Here
Part 3.7: What is WRONG with Lurien's Spire?: Here
Part 3.8: Even, even More of Lurien's Spire: Secret Room: Click here
Part 4.0 What We Know We Don't Know About the Dreamers' Houses: Click Here
Link to essay on Ao3: Here
If you have thoughts you wish to share, please feel free to comment or reblog! Artists! How does the idea of Lurien teaching Hornet how to dance sound?
Whoever made this was so blessed. Check out how perfect that leaf is for a violin!
This is so beautiful!!!! This amazing lighting!!!!
My piece for @hkhallowzine , a free Hollow Knight zine! It was a honour to work with everyone<3
Onto to the secret room!
It is a very small room, making me wonder how Lurien walked into here. All three colors associated with the Watcher’s Spire are here, though the purple glow is dominant.
First things first, Lurien has his own Lore Tablets, which is very unique in the kingdom. No, seriously, he’s the only guy who has a lore tablet with no magic or science behind it. (Not to mention a private lore tablet, not a public notice.)
The only lore tablet we can read is Lurien’s last words, which I read for you in the last part. Here is it is repeated below. To quote Lurien’s last journel entry:
“Sleep beckons eternal and these words become my last. Though my gaze shall no longer fall upon this city, I will act forever in its protection. For King, for bug, for Hallownest, I head now to my rest.”
His last words tell of Lurien’s determination, dedication, and peace.
One interesting thing to note is that we only get to read Lurien’s thoughts, not the other Dreamers. We know nothing of Herrah’s thoughts, except for everything being done for Hornet. We read Monomon’s reports, but please forgive me for stating how those tanks merely report events happening like a science report, not giving us Monomon’s personal thoughts on the matter. Those come from Quirrel translating her actions to us.
I’ll be honest, this room infuriates me for one simple reason, every lore tablet and all the ‘wanderer’s’ journals lying here are clearly written by Lurien and contain his thoughts, but we are not allowed to read any of them…except for his last entry!!! The 1 Dreamer we know little about and we have an entire room with his diaries and we can’t read it!!!
Lemm would have a field day in here. Can you imagine the classified information or missing links Lurien has in here?
And don’t think “classified” and go “Oh! Pale King fanboy!” No. Look around. I can’t even find a single Hallownest crest here, much less Monarch Wings representing the Pale King. (Except the chair. Maybe.) Take a look.
If we move on, it is easy to notice how the lamp is out. This is the first time we’ve seen a lamp that was clearly supposed to give light, but there’s none. It’s almost as if either the bug inside the lamp died OR the Spire staff did not expect anyone to enter this room anymore.
Artist Aspidiske did a comic about that lamp, so I will let you read it. On the Last Day - Aspidiske - Hollow Knight (Video Games) [Archive of Our Own]
Before I touch on the entrance to this secret room, allow me to remark on what’s bugging me. Lurien’s journals are just dumped on the ground. All other journals in the Spire are at least on shelves, these are in piles. And I would like to know why as we haven’t seen Lurien being particularly organized or disorganized before.
Now! The Entrance!
The secret room to Lurien’s last thoughts is blocked by a statue of Lurien! Which is very weird once you stop to think about it.
In game, you come across several statues in Hallownest. These statues tend to come in three categories: Items of worship (like the Pale King or the Radiance statue at Crystal Peak), statues of civilizations gone by (most often seen in the Queen’s Gardens), or memorials to dead people.
And here’s Lurien with not one, but three statues to himself.
Only one of the three statues breaks when you hit it, leading you to the secret room, which makes sense for finding secrets. But real life before Lurien went to dreaming…
It makes no sense for Lurien to have this statue when he was awake. The statue is pretty, but very unpractical for someone to use that hidden room. And this is Lurien we are talking about here. Out of the Dreamers, he is the only one who goes for both the beautiful and practical. And based on the section regarding the pillows, Lurien isn’t vain either, so he wouldn’t have a statue of himself, much less three!!!
The statues, Lurien’s character, the dark lamp, and the journels have me thinking. What if Lurien was NOT the person who put the statue there, but rather his people put the statue up after he went into the Dreamer. Remember we already know that Weavers rearranged Herrah’s Den so it would be a shrine for her. So it is not much of a stretch to say Lurien’s people rearranged the Spire to honor Lurien after he passed into the Dreaming.
If this is true, then the statue for Lurien is a memorial statue. It is still extermely rare as it has COLOR whereas the other statues have more stone or metal like colors. Lurien’s colored statue gaurds his last thoughts, preserving the Watcher’s last thoughts and allowing those in depersate need to read any of Lurien’s journels.
Then this begs the question, what about the other two statues? I hereby argue that these statues are indeed of the Watcher but not Lurien. If the secret room has all of Lurien’s thoughts, with the last entry being his last thoughts, and the statue was put up after Lurien “died”, than the other two statues could have put up when the previous Watchers passed away. Yes, I agrue that those bottom two statues belong to the Watchers before Lurien. And those statues also guard rooms with the previous Watchers’ thoughts. Yet we are prevented from accessing them lest the fans confuse those two Watchers with Lurien himself.
If this theory is true, what does it say about Lurien? He is the third Watcher in a line. Firstly, the job of Watcher was not created for Lurien, but rather Lurien proved himself in such a way that the Pale King appointed him to the position. Secondly, Lurien is in a tradition. Did you notice how all the statues looked the same? They all have a simple blue robe and shared mask. Lurien isn’t just wearing the robes for fashion, he is honoring the Watchers who have come before him. Third, if all three Watchers are wearing such simple robes and mask, they are hiding their individual identities. Whether it be so people of Hallownest can focus on the mask or so the Watchers’ can protect their families, I shall leave that up to the fans as there are 3 Watchers, leaving room for interpretation. Fourth, the inner character of the Watcher was always more important than the species of the Watcher. Again, all three Watchers are wearing simple robes that hide which species they are. To this day, fans debate on what species Lurien is. Yet all along, we were looking at the wrong thing, myself included. Personal character and individual skill were the most important aspect of Lurien. And that character and skills made him the most powerful bug right under the Royal Couple.
So, what do you think? Please reblog and share your thoughts!
If you wish to read more of the Essay, click one of these links below.
Part 1.0: Herrah's Den : Here
Part 2.0: Monomon's Archives: Here
Part 3.0: Lurien's Spire: Here
Part 3.25: Lurien's Spire: Windows and Colors: Here
Part 3.5: Even More of Lurien's Spire. Here
Part 3.7: What is WRONG with Lurien's Spire?: Here
Part 3.8: Even, even More of Lurien's Spire: Secret Room (You are here)
Part 3.9 Watcher Knight Boss Room! Here
Part 4.0 What We Know We Don't Know About the Dreamers' Houses: Click Here
Link to essay on Ao3: Here
If you have thoughts you wish to share, please feel free to comment or reblog! Especially with the above observation!
shinx doodleeeeeeee
the eyes look kinda weird i think but ehh its fine
Me with Lurien the Watcher being a 3-D character. When I started writing/drawing Lurien fanfics, he was usually seen as a one-note simp or Herrah's personal punching bag. Years later, things have gotten better now on Ao3.
I should probably make some TallstarXReena fanship too now that I think about it.
When your faves barely have any content
i feel like we as a digital society have forgotten the important rules of the internet
Don't feed the trolls
Never give out personal information
Anonymity is the best defense
Don't click suspicious links
Don't click popups and ads
Just because it's written doesn't mean it's true
You are responsible for your own experience
There is porn of everything, act accordingly
Just saving this for future reference...
I have seen some people dont know how to install mods, or how to use them. so i wanted to write a guide how to install them and make your game mod ready, because there are so many great mods, which enhance a already great game
Download Smapi, over on https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2400 and extract it. this site requires a account, but its where most stardew mods are. the premium subscription is unnecessary, since 99% of mods will be instantly downloaded
double click whatever file corresponds to your system. i will wirte this for windows. if you use linux, follow the onscreen examples. for windows, press 1, enter, 1, enter and copy the address you see on screen which starts with "c:\" including the ""
open your steam library and rightclick stardew in the sidebar, press properties and paste the address you just copied in the launch options and close the window.
to add mods, right click stardew in your sidebar again, but press browse local files. now open the new "mods" folder. to make it easier to find, right click that folder and press "pin to quick access"
download mods and enjoy the game. go back to the "nexus mods" site and download any mods you like. if you want to start with peak, download stardew valley expanded and its required mods. one of the few mods you have a wait to download. just copy the mod into the mods folder and extract it.
a few recommendations: generic mod config menu and ui info suite
have fun!
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That and has anyone considered the housing system in game? If we were to marry a spouse, what would happen to the empty house there? Yes Eliott and Leah have their own houses, but it is still awkward to have that empty house just sitting there...
I don't like the assumption that the characters that still live at their parents' house are necessarily younger. I've seen that so much in the community and I think it's so weird? Already in our economy it's harder and harder for children to move out regardless of where in the world they live, so in Stardew where they are so freaking close to collapse on so many fundamental societal levels, there is just nothing weird for a full grown adult to still be living with their parents; if anything I feel it's kind of expected. Not to mention that in a lot of cultures, children just live with their parents even when they've started their own family. I get that some characters appear younger or more playful or stuff like that, but I don't think their living status tells a lot about their age. They have nowhere else to go, and their opportunities for money making are... pretty damn sparse. I like taking Sam as an example for this but I don't think that him being youthful and optimistic in personality and still living at his parents' house means that he is necessarily fresh out of high school. I've met people like him that were in their thirties. Not to say he is thirty, I personally think he's more around 24-25 but... yeah you get my point. Hell some of us are struggling so hard just to make ends meet, it's kind of degrading to assume that once you're past 18 you should be out of the nest and have all your shit figured out else you aren't seen as mature or adult enough. We're all trying our best honestly. I don't think our living conditions should reflect on our maturity or age in general.
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Touched By an Angel
Well...I got four literal angels coming to save me. If by chance I do die, and death is a possibility here, then I have a good friend taking me home to God.
I've been using Tumblr for a while now and I STILL wonder why people rarely comment on posts.
Thank you for sharing this. I wish I had this when I first joined.
As for all the newcomers, welcome to a brand new world that has existed for some time. Settle on in, beware the annoying bots, reblog, and above all, DO NOT BE TOXIC! Ain't worth your time.
dont censor sex, abuse, suicide, dont censor it. we dont have censors like tiktok does, you wont be banned for talking about these things and tagging them properly helps people avoid them (also, we dont have shadowbanning here)
you follow who you follow, and you see posts from who you follow or what you search. the 'for you page' is basically useless here. this also brings me to my next two points
we get it, on tiktok you have to crosstag for reach, but thats not really a thing here. just tag your posts properly (also posters often leave more info about the post in the tags!! and when you reblog stuff you can leave your own notes in the tags, kind of like the old "repost comments" on tiktok)
"viral" isnt really a thing on here (at least not for the average blogger). your posts will probably get 2-10 likes and you wont get nearly as many followers than on tiktok. thats just how tumblr is
tiktok is VERY discussion based, and while tumblr is much more discussion based than other social medias, its still not a good place for ragebait/discourse. dont interact, itll make your experience worse in the end, just block and move on
this is tumblr, not tiktok. dont diss old tumblr users for how they use the site or try to change them, thats like going into someone elses house and trying to rearrange their furniture. we've been here longer and we're familiar with the site and its culture, either find your niche, adapt, or find a different app
This is beautiful! I was just expecting a picture, not a whole comic! By the way, I only saw this on Epiphany which is the 12th day of Christmas...so you are quite fine in taking the extra time. I find it a wonderful way to celebrate.
(Sorry for taking a few days to answer this one)
Not an ilustration but a small comic this time, just a simple interaction. If ghost could change their cloack I would love to get the fur thing from Mato, like, idk after learning all nail arts you visit him and get it as gift.
Thanks for your suggestion I hadn't actually thought to make something christmas related.
This is SO COOL!!!
pretend you're Lurien as you romp around Hallownest accompanied by the tiniest but most energetic and violent of your Watcher Knights
[download the reskin here or from my blog's pinned post]
Check out this awesome artist!
Happy holidays!! Just a small art of two of my favorite pokemon :3
Check out this little guy and support the artist!
11/14/19 Dacentrurus. The meaning of the name of this member of Stegosauria from the late Jurassic is “Tail Full of Points”. So…a pin cushion (ask your mom or grandmother). #sonjebovember #drawdinovember2019 #dinosaur #dacentrurus #sewing #pincushion #artistsoninstagram #animaldrawing #cuteanimals https://www.instagram.com/p/B422vRLjr2s/?igshid=1euzgg4cxscgd
Check out this cool artist!
Pokemon Challenge 2024! Faunber family.
Find the rest of the Te'Roa set in my master post!
Welcome back! Do you remember the last part where I was talking about how Patriotic Lurien was with all the Hallownestian crests?
I was about to leave it off here, until I realized something strange. There are no King’s Idols in Lurien’s Spire. Mr.-Certified-Pale-King-Fanboy has no King’s Idol from which he would worship the Pale King. What kind of fan would not have an idol or picture of his king? Especially in his bedroom!
Again, I was going to leave it even after checking the Hollow Knight wiki. Tumblr/Ao3 artist Aspidike already wrote a whole comic on it after all, so why should I spend time on it?
Looking back on it, I really should have spent more time wondering why Lurien has no King’s Idols to worship the Pale King when HERRAH is shown to be more religious than him. The Spider Queen has a Shrine inside her den while Lurien doesn’t even have a single idol or a chapel!
I only began to look deeper at the lack of King’s Idols in Lurien’s Spire when I realized there is something else missing in the Watcher’s Spire. Take a look at the carpet in Lurien’s Office.
Why does Lurien have purple carpet that completely covers the floor? Even wrapping around the pillars leading up to his Office? Why when everywhere else in his Spire has RED flooring and Hallownestian seals…
And that’s when it hit me. Not only are there no King’s Idols in Lurien’s Spire, but there is also nothing of the Pale King in Lurien’s Office a.k.a where he lays slumbering.
Look at Lurien’s Office again.
No painting of the Pale King, only that of the City. No massive window of the Hallownest Seal, only open windows. There are Hallownest Seals on the banners…but no Monarach Wings.
Please, allow me to explain the importance of the lack of Monarch Wings. Take a look down below at the kinds of Hallownest Seals seen across Hallownest.
The above photo is a drawing as I suck at photoshop.
Design 1 or the Seal design is most reminiscent of the Pale King with his Monarch Wings, hence why it will be often referred to as the Monarch’s Seal in this essay.
Design 2 or the Crest design is the most often seen crest design across all of Hallownest. It is the center or base that Designs 1 & 3 form their own designs on. I often take it to mean Hallownest itself versus the Monarch’s Seal which brings to mind the Pale King.
Design 3 is the design, which to my knowledge, is only seen in the City of Tears, especially on the noble’s side of the City. Originally, I called it Plumage Design and pondered whether or not this was an allusion to the Pale King, but now I believe it is a homage to the White Lady. See the comparison down below.
Part of the reason why I am making such a big deal out of the different designs is due to the Medieval heritage the game Hollow Knight draws on. If kings, knights, and keeping your oaths to your lords is greatly important to the game, then having a coat of arms and its impact are not a stretch. We already saw this in Monomon’s portion of the essay when we realized that Monomon was the one in charge of the Teacher’s Archives. Due to the lack of Hallownestian crests (or anything of Hallownest) as well as symbols in the benches being Monomon’s mask, we concluded that the Teacher’s Archives was not part of Hallownest proper, but rather natural territory under Monomon’s direct charge.
Having three different Hallownestain crests is vital. While the standard Design 2 or the Crest design allows one to tell that the messenger is from Hallownest versus the Mosskin, Designs 1 and 3 allow us to tell if the message came from the Pale King or White Lady themselves. The common Hallownestian official might only bear the Crest Design while servants in the White Palace bear Designs 1 & 3. Though I bet the Queen’s gardeners only bore the Plumage Design.
With this in mind, let us turn back to Lurien’s Spire to see which crests he bears throughout.
These are all locations through-out the Watcher’s Spire containing different versions of Hallownestian crests. Now please compare these with that of Lurien’s personal Office and Final Resting Place.
Here is the ONLY Place I found the 1st design or Monarch Seal in Lurien’s Office… If you actually can count it since it’s OUTSIDE his office.
The two places where the Monarach Wings appear in Lurien’s Office are in two locations that are OUTSIDE his office. The first is on the Spire’s wall which is just typical City of Tears architecture while the second winged crest is on the elevator. AKA, a standard design that is easily removed from the room.
What does this mean for Lurien, the fandom’s Pale King fanboy, with nothing of the Pale King inside his office? This is supposed to be Lurien’s personal space where there would be tons of Pale King merch and references. Yet, upon closer examination, not only are there no references to the Pale King, but Lurien went out of his way to hid any references to the White Lady as well! The purple carpet extends all the way down, hiding Design 3 or the White Lady’s crest!
Forget any blacklash from an shocked fandom, the lack of references to the Royal Couple in Lurien’s Office reeks of possible danger for the Watcher. Lurien is the 3rd most powerful bug in Hallownest, right underneath the Pale King and White Lady. Such massive influence needs to be massively watched and carefully checked to ensure that the Watcher doesn’t use that power against the Royal Couple. Yet the Watcher, in his own personal office, does not have any direct reference to either of them.
We do not know how the Royal Couple would feel that Lurien went out of his way to not show any direct alliegance in his private workspace and room.
Now, I already know what you are thinking. Lurien’s canon dialogue in the Dream Realm. “For King Beloved…to sleep and serve…” It seems as if all of his dialogue is suggesting the exact opposite picture of Lurien’s Office, that he put the Pale King above everything…but the Pale King isn’t the only reason why he became a Dreamer. To quote Lurien’s last journel entry:
“Sleep beckons eternal and these words become my last. Though my gaze shall no longer fall upon this city, I will act forever in its protection. For King, for bug, for Hallownest, I head now to my rest.”
Lurien is a poet. 2) His actions are for the forever protection of his City. 3) Lurien’s reasons for acting are not solely for the Pale King, but for bug and Hallownest. This is important as it shows Lurien separates Hallownest from the Pale King in his mind.
While Lurien DID say “For King Beloved”, there is nothing of Pale King inside Lurien’s personal Office. It seems like the care Lurien had for the Pale King was like the love Americans have for their flag, unwilling to let the flag touch the ground…but not going so far to have the flag inside their bedrooms…unless the love for the flag goes beyond patriotism to nationalism.
Finally, what does this lack of crests mean for Lurien’s character? I am afraid that I will have to dive into symbolism to explain as a certain Watcher doesn’t have much dialogue.
The lack of Monarch crest on the banners shows how Lurien always put Hallownest first, not the Pale King’s interests. Lurien could have snuck in one of the bigger banners with the Monarch crests, but chose the smaller banner with Design 2 to hang instead. Symbolically, this shows how Lurien’s heart with the kingdom first.
The lack of the Plumage Crests was brought about by Lurien redoing the floors, turning the red floor to purple carpet. As seen before in previous essays, the color red is associated with the nobles and the majority of the Plumage Crests are seen on the noble’s side of the City. Meanwhile, the color purple is primarily seen in Lurien’s Spire AKA Lurien’s color. Just as purple takes from both red and blue to rise to higher wisdom, inspiration, and humility, so Lurien rises above the roots to see a bird’s eye view of the whole culture of Hallownest, not just the nobles who grow (pun intended) from the White Lady.
The open windows has its own symbolism as Team Cherry could have given Lurien’s Office those magnificent Monarch crest windows. Instead, they chose to not just have no seal, but almost no window. Practically, this means Lurien can easily reposition his telescope anywhere so he can see everywhere in the City. But what about symbolism? The answer is that Lurien can see everything CLEARLY and without basis. He sees what is truly there, not what the Pale King wants him to see or expects him to see. Lurien isn’t even plagued by his own personal weakness or anger that could cause the glass to fog up. He can SEE.
Yes, Monomon. You can stop listing all the things wrong with the City. Lurien already has your list and THEN some.
Here we are at the end of this section and I cannot believe that CAREPT of all things would reveal how Lurien's loyalty is to Hallownest first, not the Pale King.
If you wish to read more of the Essay, click one of these links below.
Part 1.0: Herrah's Den : Here
Part 2.0: Monomon's Archives: Here
Part 3.0: Lurien's Spire: Here
Part 3.25: Lurien's Spire: Windows and Colors: Here
Part 3.5: Even More of Lurien's Spire. Here
Part 3.7: What is WRONG with Lurien's Spire? (You are here)
Part 3.8: Even, even More of Lurien's Spire: Secret Room: Click here
Part 3.9 Watcher Knight Boss Room! Here
Part 4.0 What We Know We Don't Know About the Dreamers' Houses: Click Here
Link to essay on Ao3: Here
If you have thoughts you wish to share, please feel free to comment or reblog! Especially with the above observation!
Remember when I said this?
Finally finished and I'm worried about how you all will take it. Oh well. At least I got it somewhat edited.
AND Lurien's essay is now 45 pages AND I discovered a secret room that I thought was made up by the fans. Goodness gracious Lurien, WHY!!!!
Anyway...expect the next part to "What's up with the Dreamers' Houses?" really soon!
Lurien had to go hide more stuff inside his Spire. His essay is now 35 pages and counting. It might take a bit before the next part is up.
While I'm writing the next part, you all can go look inside his Spire and see if you can discover the really weird thing for yourself.
Awesome job OP.
Please don't mind me asking I keep this for future reference.
Hollow Knight food concept art I’ve done this before, but I wanted to go into more depth on the processes and ingredients used
I’m slowly amassing the ingredients needed to bake a cake
For Future Reference.
words for your fight scenes
draw, expire, heave, inhale, puff, suffocate
intercept, tackle
arise, ascension, mount, scale, surface
amputate, ax/axe, bisect, chisel, cleave, crop, cut up, dent, dissect, engrave, etch, fell, hack, lacerate, mangle, molt, mutilate, notch, peel, scar, scratch, shave, shred, slash, slit, trim, whittle
boot, chuck, disposal, dispose of, do away with, elimination, kick out, rejection, scrap, throw away, void
alight, crash, decline, descent, dive, droop, duck, fall, flop, fumble, go under, keel over, light, percolate, plumb, plunge, sag, settle, sink, slump, stoop, submerge, suspend, thud/thump, tumble, wilt
ambush, bury, camouflage, conceal, cover, cover-up, cringe, disguise, dissimulate, embed, ensconce, envelop, isolation, lurk, masquerade, palliate, screen, seclusion, sequester, shrink, shut off/shut out, sneak, withhold
applaud, bang, baste, batter, beat, blindside, boot, buffet, bunt, chip, clash, clip, clout, collide, concussion, crash, cuff, deflect, drive, flail, glance, hammer, jab, jostle, knock, lick, nail, peck, plaudits, pound, punch, rap, scourge, slap, smack, sock, strike, swipe, tap, thud/thump, tip, whack, whip
apprehend, cage, clasp, clinch, confinement, constriction, cramp, detain, embrace, enslave, fetters, grasp, gripe, hold, incarcerate, overpower, press, shackle, snatch, strangle, throttle, wrestle
NOTE
The above are concepts classified according to subject and usage. It not only helps writers and thinkers to organize their ideas but leads them from those very ideas to the words that can best express them.
It was, in part, created to turn an idea into a specific word. By linking together the main entries that share similar concepts, the index makes possible creative semantic connections between words in our language, stimulating thought and broadening vocabulary.
Source ⚜ Writing Basics & Refreshers ⚜ On Vocabulary Notes: Fight Scenes (pt. 1) (pt. 2) Word Lists: Fight ⚜ Pain
The fact that there could be WAYYY more wild Snviys than we think because they can camouflage in the Pokemon World is an amazing fact.
For Future reference,
1. Gerontocracy
A government ruled by the elderly. Wisdom and experience are highly valued, and the oldest members of society hold the most power.
2. Stratocracy
A government led by military leaders. The state and the military are closely intertwined, and military service is often a prerequisite for leadership.
3. Timocracy
A government where only property owners or those with a certain level of wealth can participate in governance. The idea is that those with a stake in the land will govern it wisely.
4. Gynarchy
A society governed by women. Leadership roles are exclusively or predominantly held by females.
5. Noocracy
A government ruled by the wise or intellectuals. Decisions are made based on knowledge, wisdom, and rational thought.
6. Kleptocracy
A corrupt government where leaders exploit national resources and steal; rule by thieves. This often leads to widespread corruption and inequality.
7. Cyberocracy
A futuristic government where information technology and artificial intelligence play a central role in governance. Decisions are made based on data and algorithms.
8. Hologarchy
A decentralized government where power is distributed equally among all members of society. There is no central authority, and decisions are made collectively.
9. Ecocracy
A government that prioritizes ecological and environmental concerns above all else. Policies are designed to protect and sustain the natural world.
10. Psionocracy
A government ruled by individuals with psychic or mental powers. Leadership is determined by one's mental abilities and control over psychic forces.
11. Syndicracy
A government run by syndicates or groups of people with common interests, such as trade unions or professional associations. Power is distributed among various syndicates.
12. Cryptocracy
A secretive government where the true rulers are hidden from the public. The real power lies with a shadowy group that operates behind the scenes.
13. Technomancy
A blend of technology and magic, where the government is ruled by technomancers who use both technological and magical means to govern.
14. Animocracy
A government where animals or animal spirits play a central role in decision-making. This could involve druids or shamans who communicate with animal spirits.
15. Necrocracy
A government where the dead or undead hold power. This could involve necromancers who use their control over the dead to maintain order.
16. Elementocracy
A government where rulers are chosen based on their mastery of elemental forces (earth, water, fire, air). Each element might have its own representative or leader.
17. Dreamocracy
A society governed by those who can control or influence dreams. Decisions might be made in a dream realm, affecting the waking world.
18. Symbiocracy
A government where humans and another species (like elves, dwarves, or even sentient plants) share power equally. Cooperation and mutual benefit are key.
19. Chronocracy
A government where time manipulation is central. Leaders might be time travelers or have the ability to foresee future events and make decisions accordingly.
20. Shadow Council
A secretive group that rules from the shadows, with their identities unknown to the public. They might use spies and covert operations to maintain control.
21. Guildocracy
A government run by various guilds, each representing different trades or professions. Power is distributed among the guild leaders.
22. Arcane Senate
A council of powerful mages who govern based on their magical prowess and knowledge. Each member might represent a different school of magic.
23. Beastocracy
A society where intelligent beasts or mythical creatures hold power. This could include dragons, griffins, or other fantastical beings.
24. Celestocracy
A government ruled by celestial beings or those who claim divine right from the stars. Astrology and celestial events might influence decisions.
25. Labyrinthine Council
A government where the ruling council resides in a vast, ever-changing labyrinth. Only those who can navigate the maze can reach the leaders.
26. Mirrorocracy
A society where decisions are made by reflections or alternate versions of the leaders from parallel dimensions. This could involve magical mirrors or portals.
27. Puppetocracy
A government where the rulers are figureheads controlled by unseen puppet masters. The true power lies with those pulling the strings.
28. Songocracy
A society where music and song are central to governance. Leaders might be chosen based on their musical abilities, and laws are sung rather than written.
29. Crystal Dominion
A government where rulers derive their power from magical crystals. These crystals might grant various abilities or influence the land.
30. Ethereocracy
A government where spirits or ethereal beings hold sway. This could involve ghosts, ancestral spirits, or other supernatural entities.
31. Mercantocracy
A government ruled by merchants and traders. Economic policies are designed to maximize trade and commerce, with leaders often being the wealthiest traders.
32. Coinclave
A council of bankers and financiers who control the economy. Decisions are made to ensure financial stability and growth, with a focus on banking and investments.
33. Tradeguild Dominion
A realm where powerful trade guilds hold sway. Each guild represents a different industry, and they work together to regulate trade and industry standards.
34. Barterocracy
A society where barter and trade are the primary means of exchange. Leaders are chosen based on their ability to negotiate and manage resources effectively.
35. Resource Syndicate
A government where control is based on the management of natural resources. Leaders are experts in mining, agriculture, and resource distribution.
36. Artisan Assembly
A government led by master craftsmen and artisans. Economic policies focus on the production and trade of high-quality goods and craftsmanship.
37. Agrarian Council
A society governed by those who control agricultural production. Policies are centered around farming, food distribution, and sustainable agriculture.
38. Guilded Senate
A ruling body composed of representatives from various economic guilds. Each guild has a say in the governance based on their economic contributions.
39. Commodocracy
A government where power is based on the control of key commodities, such as gold, spices, or magical resources. Leaders are those who control these valuable goods.
40. Marketocracy
A society where the free market dictates governance. Leaders are chosen based on their success in the marketplace, and economic freedom is highly valued.
41. Tradewind Dominion
A government where trade routes and shipping lanes are the lifeblood of the economy. Leaders are often powerful ship captains or trade route managers.
42. Coincouncil
A council of wealthy individuals who use their resources to influence governance. Economic policies are designed to benefit the wealthy elite.
43. Craftocracy
A government where skilled artisans and craftsmen hold power. The economy is driven by the production and trade of artisanal goods.
44. Miner’s Syndicate
A society governed by those who control mining operations. Economic policies focus on the extraction and trade of minerals and precious metals.
45. Spice Dominion
A government where control of rare and valuable spices dictates power. Leaders are those who manage spice production and trade.
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