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aizawa watching izuku enter the staffroom as his coworker
Some teacher Deku doodles
(I haven't post here sketches for a while)
First let's start by the "afterword", the note Horikoshi left after 430 and before the extras, chapter 431.
Original japanese for those who understand.
The best traslation I found and most people are agreeing with.
Key sentences are:
1.The real final chapter is 429, 430 is more like a curtain call.
2. PS: For chapter 431, I turn off the cameras and free the characters from their dramas.
This note being left after 430 and before the extras is so important. . The clarification of "the real final chapter is 429" and 430 is the curtain call is screaming: the show has ended here. This is further stated by "i turn the cameras off" by the man who use to refer himself as the camera man, I leave you with an example.
(They're talking about Vol 37 cover)
And back to point number 2: "and free the characters from their dramas", which could perfectly be understood as "the characters are no longer tied to their previous plots and drama" no longer connected to the main story.
It may seem like a reach until here, we're just trying to convince ourselves that's not canon, right? They´re delusions, right?
The problem is how far away everything about 431 antagonizes the whole story, the characters doesn't feel like themselves, they even regress back all their development, the drawing style looks totally different and there are many irregularities that call for our attention.
Dabi, 431 and by Horikoshi
Toga and Ochaco in 431:
Toga and Ochaco by Horikoshi:
All Might's signature for Katsuki (Horikoshi would never mess this up):
Kirishima with 6 fingers lol, Horikoshi loves drawing hands, he would never.
Katsuki's odd teeth what the fuck. (His hand looks good to me)
Ochaco and Shoto just look, weird. It's clearly not Horikoshi's art style.
And this awful background (center) was the main giveaway.
Horikoshi's backgrounds are so professional:
At this point I'm getting tired since the difference is astounding, don't believe me, just check the manga.
I don't think Horikoshi would've allowed those mistakes had he have a role in the making, maybe he did, there's no saying about that, but clearly if he did his involvement was very low.
Character's development wise now.
Seriously? "Deku"? And Katsuki complaining for picking him up. He cried his eyes out when Izuku lost his quirk and now he's back at season 1?
Izuku would never in a million years turn down that offer. And if he did, it would never be like this, so devoid of emotion and empathy.
430 showed us an Izuku aiming for his dreams again and at 431 this Izuku ¿? It's okay with being a teacher? Ok. And if that's not the problem, why he outright rejects Katsuki out of nowhere? When their rivalry was one of the main points of the plots for 430 chapters and now just um over? Without justification? Ok.
Ok.
Now specifically about that ship canonization and bkdk.
Horikoshi has been doing this for 10 years. The choices he took the whole manga were incredibly intentional, all those romantic tropes given to bkdk, his interviews, all stand in direct opposition to what happened in this last chapter.
I, myself, don't know much about Jump but what I've heard is they end lot of shonens with the same heterosexual formula. I don't think all of this is a coincidence.
Something really important that needs to be adressed to is what happened back in June (I think), when suddenly MHA announced it was ending in 5 chapters could've something to do with this. The manga was suddenly rushed to its ends with unsatisfying resolutions and as if that was not enough, one month later (at most) the same happened to JJK and all of this came accompanied by a switch of one of the heads of Jump.
About 431 again though.
I was just thinking what would I do if I was pressured to write something that ruins the biggest project of my life and goes against everything I was hoping for? Refuse. Tell them to write it themselves. If I can't do anything to stop it and it'll be there, alright, but I WON'T DO IT.
And I think this could be Horikoshi's case.
I've never seen a shonen manga come so close to implying his male protagonist and his male deuteragonist are in love before. Yes, it was not EXPLICIT but it was so fucking clear if you knew how to read, all the way up to 430. All those cliches tropes he gave them, he knew, we know.
I thought I'll die trying to explaineverything that seems wrong with this with nothing to back me up but the fact that he added that note is clear for me. I'm surprised they allowed him to publish it, I thought we wouldn't even have that.
PS:
It's interesting this being posted the same day 431 comes out. Also "heroaca is pretty dark, huh?"
I'll not go into this anyways because it's kind of a reach but the conclusion is: I think it's a "soft" censorship and Horikoshi did his best to relay his message given what he had.
Thanks for reading!
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aizawa watching izuku enter the staffroom as his coworker
|| Nah, even on Twitter they remembered ||
|| Guys, I think Izuku's dad is the friends we made along the way. ||
THEIR OFFICIAL FUTURE DESIGNS JUST DROPPED AND I JUST HAD TO DRAW THEM‼️
Note hcs:
Iida and Hatsume are engaged, they haven’t got the time to properly plan their wedding due to their busy work lives.
Per usual I think a lot of the criticism for the newest chapter is from misunderstanding/misreading the leaks and people's perceived notions of the story and characters being proven wrong.
I have my own opinions and critics on the last chapter,but I'm not going to claim that it's Horikoshi's fault for being a 'bad writer' just because some of it didn't appeal to me. I do have a couple issues with this chapter,because that happens! I'm waiting for the official translations to come out before I really delve into it and share all of my critics. I also just wanna celebrate MHA and Horikoshi. I'm also,also waiting for the announcement on the fifth. Because me and many others believe it may be an extra chapter.
That's because I want to fairly view this chapter,and I'm frustrated with the bad faith criticism on this chapter and the series as a whole. And I plan to go over it all. My issues. My love for it. To really go over mha fairly because I actually like it. And I actually like analysis.
Also,guys,stop getting pissed off with Noguchi. Like,again,we still don't know what the announcement on the fifth is,so hold your horses and stop getting pissy with him cuz his doodles weren't in 430.
(And for the "criticism" I've seen I don't actually wanna call it criticism, because when criticism is done in bad faith it's not criticism it's just hate )
Okay, I kinda overreacted here. The ending wasn't that bad, but I am still a bit upset about it. I still wish Izuku and Katsuki had a talk about their relationship and feelings for each other, whether they're romantic or platonic, it feels like they should've to finish the story properly. But regardless I'm glad it ended with everyone happy, and I'm glad Izuku got the chance to become a hero again. Sorry I was mad earlier lmao, I may not like the ending that much; but I still love the story. I'm honestly really gonna miss mha, and I feel pretty bad for being so harsh on the ending, I mean it just ended. But you know, even though it's over, it doesn't mean I can't love it anymore :)
The bittersweet ending felt a lot more bitter than sweet
Like there's no way in hell they didn't keep much contact with Izuku after graduation, especially Katsuki. I simply refuse. And they 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘦 talking about Izuku's feelings at the end? 𝘕𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 addressing how he's been feeling about everything? After Shigaraki's death, after Katsuki's short death, just his feeling for Katsuki in general, or even how he's been feeling about anything? FUCK that. This just felt rushed and didn't feel like it completed the story, let alone Izuku's character
I'll still love the series don't get me wrong, but I this ending was fucking shit dude
The bittersweet ending felt a lot more bitter than sweet
Like there's no way in hell they didn't keep much contact with Izuku after graduation, especially Katsuki. I simply refuse. And they 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘦 talking about Izuku's feelings at the end? 𝘕𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 addressing how he's been feeling about everything? After Shigaraki's death, after Katsuki's short death, just his feeling for Katsuki in general, or even how he's been feeling about anything? FUCK that. This just felt rushed and didn't feel like it completed the story, let alone Izuku's character
I'll still love the series don't get me wrong, but I this ending was fucking shit dude
chat what do we think tokoyami’s chastising hawks for
MHA 430 spoilers
It’s so important to me that Deku got to say the words he wanted to hear so badly as a kid. He wanted to save people with a smile like All Might and here he does. He surpasses All Might, actually, and not because of a quirk or his strength but because he has a heroic heart and mha has always been about discovering what it really means to be a hero.
This meme is oddly nostalgic for me because I’m pretty sure all mha fans saw the version with aizawa in 2020,
Ahhh full circle
Deku's first day on the job is going great
you can take away the hc that touya survived from my cold dead hands
bc if he did die, that means he died in the most dehumanized way (strapped in some kind of tube, with a body falling apart, barely able to talk, while being stared at by his abuser) and i cannot live with that knowledge
even if i love touya and i want him to be happy, i would have honestly preferred to see him die during the final battle
i know what you’re going to say “but Atlas, it kinda feels bittersweet already”
yes, yes it is. Izuku and Uraraka failed at saving Shigaraki and Toga (even though it was their main goal), the Todorokis aren’t doing better either, and basically no one in the league has been saved (even though “saving people with a smile” was literally Izuku’s dream)
no need to scroll for too long to see people complaining about the ending. i guess the only ones who’ve truly won are the bkdk stans.
[here i’m basing that ‘bittersweet’ feeling on the fact that the main goals haven’t exactly been accomplished + my own feelings tbh]
now, how do we make it better without changing it too much?
the main issue i personally have with the ending is that it’s trying so hard to be a happy ending when, as previously said, it feels bittersweet
and that’s where my main point is: in my opinion, the ending would have been better if it had been an assumed bittersweet ending
lets say we keep it all the same: Shigaraki, Kurogiri and Toga die, Touya is in the hospital, Spinner and Compress are in jail. so the heroes won but Izuku, Ochaco and Shouto feel like they’ve lost.
we had a conversation between Izuku and Ochaco, i wish we had heard more of Shouto’s feelings in the epilogue (it feels like Endeavor stole the spotlight in Shouto’s story but that’s a whole other subject)
what would’ve been great is a conversation between those threes (and maybe Bakugou too) and the teachers/pro heroes.
war heroes or not, they were just kids. and i think that the adults could (and should) help them deal with these feelings, especially eraserhead and present mix (that way the whole shirakumo/oboro plot gets a proper conclusion too)
that wouldn’t have been the best obviously. but it could’ve been a good start for the students to say: we failed, but we’re going to honor their memory by preventing this from happening again.
and then comes the time skip, in which we put more focus on the new generation of heroes doing more and really make a change. in canon, we know Ochaco and Shouji are working on it, i think it could’ve been more though. one example that comes to mind is the heroes ranking. giving more rewards to make sure no one else turns like endeavor feels weird. heroes aren't supposed to behave like toddlers???
the whole "we failed this time but we'll keep working to make the world a better place" is interesting imo, but it would have been accepted by the fandom if it had happened with another villain.
what i'm trying to say is: if izuku had failed to save another vilain in the middle of the story but had used this experience to do better with shigaraki, it would have been interesting. but here, it just feels like a failure with an epilogue to create an illusion of a happy ending.
touya is a drama queen (/pos), you can’t just fit him in a tiny case
if he had been there he would have stolen the show (as he should). you know that time he made a dramatic bow during the final fight? that.
the only thing that could’ve fit in the epilogue would’ve been seeing him eat soba with shouto and/or reading spinner’s book. but anything related to the Todoroki Family Drama™ would’ve required so much more information. you can’t tell me touya wouldn’t have spent an entire chapter roasting endeavor if he had been given the opportunity
my hot take is the reason we never saw anything of Touya in the epilogue is because anything with Touya would require several pages of explanation, you can't stuff it into a tiny frame.
him dying in the thingamabob? would need room to show the family's reactions and especially Shouto's who if this were the case would have failed to save his brother, Rei's about saving her son's life from being killed by Endeavor only for him to still die, and Natsuo, who was the closest to Touya and hasn't interacted with him at all since learning he had survived the fire.
Touya recovering and outliving yet another pessimistic prognosis for his life expectancy? what would he even do with his life, after the people who were his friends were slaughtered and captured by the oppressors they had fought against, and lost? the only reason he didn't share their fates is his relation to Enji.
him cutting off Endeavor? took Natsuo three pages to do, no way to fit it into a brief montage.
Touya escaping with the League? that's a whole another manga of its own.
this is just me ranting after reading many people say that the lov deserved a better ending (i agree with them don't worry). most of that stuff has already been said but i'm bored and need something to write
so why is everyone disappointed?
by definition, an antagonist is someone that goes against the main character(s) and a villain is someone who does immoral and/or illegal things (wow, shocking)
so by definition, the league of villains is aptly named. shigaraki and dabi are mass murderers, toga is a killer too, and even if the others are 'less dangerous' they're all guilty of terorism and kidnapping a teenager.
not nice, right? then why would anyone would want them to have a good ending?
long story short: horikoshi made the league too sympathetic and relatable
when horikoshi has decided to make them funny, he's decided to make them likeable. that's not enough though. you can find a fictional villain funny and not root for them (for some reason the examples that comes to my mind are the disney villains. captain hook is hilarious but no one wants him to win)
the cause of everyone's disappointment is the relatable part. everyone in the league has gone through stuff viewers can relate. touya, shigaraki and toga have been abused; twice has mental health issues (and stuggling to get a job is relatable too lmao); spinner has been discriminated against... you get the idea
and even without knowing their backstory, most of the league's fights can be considered noble: they want to change society and make the world a better place. to take a more precise example, the league kidnapped bakugou because they thought he had gone through similar struggle as them
(this is mr compress talking in chapter 85) as far as i've seen, most of the fandom either think bakugou being chained and muzzled at the end of the sport festival was just comic relief or agree that it was fucked up
so yeah, you can't put a group of people rejected by society, who just want a better world and expect people to not like them
and that's why their ending is disappointing (the rest contains heavy spoilers of the last few chapters of mha)
they're all either in jail or six feet underground. we rationally could understand it, they're all criminals/villains so of course they wouldn't get a happy ending and face consequences for their actions. the only one who could have gotten away with it is shigaraki because of all the grooming/brainwashing he's gone through and maybe toga because she's a child
but if you relate to a character, you want them to get a happy ending. of course fans would want dabi to be at peace, but instead he's forced to spend his last moments being stared at by his abuser). of course fans would want shigaraki to be free from afo (but instead his only freedom was death). of course fans would want toga to be understood and cared for (but she never had that opportunity)
that's not very 'save to win' out of you horikoshi
maybe it's just a shortcut made by the fandom, but the league are seen more as victims of abuse than actual criminals. i mean, what's more important in dabi's story? the fact that he burned himself alive after overworking himself to get his abusive father's attention, or the fact that he's burned people alive? probably both, but there's more focus on the first element.
and obviously we would want abuse victims to get a happy ending
basically, their ending isn't coherent with what we've seen of them, and that's why people are disappointed
btw, the same logic applies to stain. some fans agree with stain's reasoning bc he's fighting against corruption. of course, his logic is stupid and he's delusional but he's introduced not long after we've discovered shouto's past. you can't say "one of the most popular heroes is abusing + all he wants is to get n°1 to satisfy his own ego" and then follow with "see that guy fighting against corruption? he's bad, don't do that"
the clever way to make sure no one would agree with stain would have been to make the heroes fight against injustice with good methods. i live for the fanfics in which izuku takes down the hpsc
okay i'm done ranting thanks for reading
what that last panel of rei and endeavor shouldve been
i will be forever grateful to anyone writing fics about Izuku’s first day as a teacher
like
imagine
nezu: hi everyone today we’re welcoming a new member in the team
izuku (in the most panicked tone possible): hi everyone!
aizawa: …
aizawa: what if this was my last straw
and then it turns out izuku is the best when students need help understanding their quirks (i feel like he’s teaching quirk science or something + teach them whatever all might was teaching)
i just read the last chapter of mha
the izuku in me might make a post of all the thoughts i have (good and bad)
somehow i’m not as disappointed as i thought i would be
Apollo, please you did not have to go that hard.
How the fuck did I sort of predict the bad ending/what fucking epilog was that?/ so well? I have how MHA ended, I hate how almost no trauma from the students was talked about properly or the villains. I hate that we don't know if Dabi had been given the merciful and gentle touch of death. I hate how the most relatable group turned out to be the one pushed to the side and tossed away so quickly. I hate how we don't get anything about Kurogiri, not even Aizawa or Hizashi at his grave. I hate how there seem to be no legal consequences for any warcrimes or missdeeds done. Starting at child soldiers and ending with the whole Endeavor thing. Or the most is a little slap on the fingers!
I cannot accept that this last chapter was written by the same author that had written the iconic Dabi's Dance. The chapter that outdid the fucking presidential election of the fucking United States of Amerika!
It doesn't feel the Manga ended. I mean, the chapter before this one had something, but it still felt so robotic. I don't feel anything other than disappointment and dread.
If I may be delusional now, but Hori should come out after like a week of it being published and be like "Ha, jokes on you. That was a publicity stunt. It is all some kind of Madara dream thing." Or he will just make a "My hero academia 2" and call it like "Your hero academia" or "My villain academia" something corny like that
Anyway, that was just my primordial yapper being unleashed.
I just feel like I have to say this about my finished book "Sepent of the lost"
The bad ending "XVI The Tower" as well as the good ones were written while I was on vacation. And they staying as drafts for 6 days because I didn't have a grammar software on my phone. And in a way I am disappointed ever since I saw the newest MHA chapter. Like damn...it's either that Apollo slapped me with a bat in the face and made me predict Tomura's self destruction ending or Hiro had the same idea as me....while I was blasted and drinking liquor almost 24/7. And I do not want to know what this means in the whole, I am afraid it just shows how badly of a writer Hori is when it comes to Shigaraki. That his ending is just like mine, a fanfiction author with questionable taste.
Anyway, this is just my little rant.
@palesweetscherryblossom
The book I did with your Au is done, and I kind of want to hear your opinion about this.
ive watched like four different shows in the wake of mha ending and none of them have filled the hole in my mha shaped heart
Neck!!! (MHA 430)
Not a fan of his new haircut but I had to draw it
Hii! I wrote a meta(?) of bkdks relationship in chapter 431. I know a lot of people don’t care anymore here, but I actually made it for tiktok (@wonderduoglazer) because people still spread misinformation there. I wanted to share it here as well because I'm kind of proud,,? I tried my best to stay unbiased, especially on the "Bakugou is depressed" part. This is my first time writing, so please give me tips on how I can improve :)
I also uploaded a text-to-speech version on tik tok.
HE OFFERED HIM HIS HAND IM GONNA SHIT MY PANTS
I can’t believe MHA just leaked its final chapter AGHH IM NOT READY TO SAY BYE 😭 I’ve been crying all day because of it
How am I supposed to just go about my silly little day job after reading that this morning!
I have all the feels. At the root of it, I'm happy. My heart is so full. This story nestled its way into my heart. A flash forward was a perfect send off, with all the little notes and teases of what happened to get there.
I want more, of course I want more. I want to a whole series of them finishing their school years, a whole series of them as pros together. I'll take anything and everything if I'm being honest.
But this is Horikoshi's story. This is his ending. And it was beautiful. The immense pressure and balance to write a story like this. Horikoshi, you created something amazing. Thank you. Thank you for all of it.
And thank you fandom. Ya'll crazy sometimes, but I love it here. Books still need to be printed. Scenes still need to be animated. We've got plenty left.